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Satan has no power beyond what God allows.

Anyhow, if you'd ever like to talk about Jesus Christ, Satan's Creator and Judge, then I'd be happy to have such a conversation with you.
 
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My point is that, no matter what I do, only Satan can break the connection he has with me. No matter how many promises I break with him, no matter what I do, I cannot break my connection. Only Satan can.
 
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My point is that, no matter what I do, only Satan can break the connection he has with me. No matter how many promises I break with him, no matter what I do, I cannot break my connection. Only Satan can.
That's an outright lie from Satan, the father of lies (John 8:44).

Jesus Christ can set you free from the power of Satan.

For example, here was the Apostle Paul's commission:

Acts chapter 26

[13] At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.
[14] And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
[15] And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.
[16] But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;
[17] Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,
[18] To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
[19] Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
[20] But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

IF you are willing to repent, THEN Jesus Christ can easily deliver you "from the power of Satan unto God".
 
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Repent? You mean like beg your God for forgiveness? Isn't that like....giving them the control?
 
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Repent? You mean like beg your God for forgiveness? Isn't that like....giving them the control?
Why would "control" be an issue for you when you've basically already told me that you're a slave to Satan?

I mean, you recently said:
My point is that, no matter what I do, only Satan can break the connection he has with me. No matter how many promises I break with him, no matter what I do, I cannot break my connection. Only Satan can.
How is that "freedom"?

It isn't.

If you're willing to serve God in this life, then you will have an eternal inheritance in the life to come.

God paid a great price to purchase your freedom from sin, and that price was the blood of his Son.

Scripture declares that Jesus is the actual Creator of all things, yet he willingly made himself a little lower than the angels approximately 2,000 years ago for the suffering of death or in order to pay the price for your sins.

He has since been raised from the dead and ascended back to heaven where he's been made heir of all things and given a name which is above all names, including Satan's.

Why would the Creator need to be made an heir?

Because Jesus needed to come to this earth as a man in order to die for the sins of mankind.

He has since been raised from dead and made heir of that which he originally created so that you might one day share his inheritance with him in the kingdom to come.

Jesus literally altered his persona for all of eternity in order to pay the price for your sins.

In other words, prior to his incarnation, he was only 100% God, but now he is both God and man.

Again, the "man" part was needful so that other men and women might one day share his inheritance with him.

As I said to you earlier, God has noticed you...and he's paid a great price to redeem you from the power of Satan and sin, but you need to willfully receive the same.

The choice is ultimately yours.

God has already demonstrated his love towards you, and he's willing to do the same throughout all of eternity.

This is the good news or the gospel.
 
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Rewards are given to Satanists by Satan himself. Why should I ''repent'' when I'm free with Satan and has all I could ever ask for (Satan himself)?
 
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And plus, devotion isn't being a slave. Devotion is sticking with someone no matter what.
 
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Rewards are given to Satanists by Satan himself. Why should I ''repent'' when I'm free with Satan and has all I could ever ask for (Satan himself)?
What "rewards"?

Didn't you previously tell me:

Satan has the power to destroy me according to his will, or guide me into his creation.
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If Satan has the power to destroy you according to his will, then why would you be expecting a guaranteed "reward"?

Anyhow, Satan is a liar.

Here is the one who truly has the power to destroy you:

Luke chapter 12

[4] And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
[5] But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

When everything is said and done, you will appear before the Judgment Seat of Jesus Christ.

Satan won't be judging anybody, but will be condemned to eternal fire instead:

Matthew chapter 25

[31] When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
[32] And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
[33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
[34] Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[35] For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
[36] Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
[37] Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
[38] When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
[39] Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
[40] And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
[41] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

When Christ, NOT Satan, sits upon his throne of judgment, the wicked will be cast "into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS".

THIS truly is Satan's end.

Whatever he's been telling you, just believe the polar opposite because that is the actual truth.
 

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Repent? You mean like beg your God for forgiveness? Isn't that like....giving them the control?
No, repenting is not begging. Neither does being born into and/or raised in a Christian home make you a Christian.

Repentance is a change of heart and mind toward God.

We are all born enemies of God, and hostile towards Him.
 
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What "rewards"?

Didn't you previously tell me:


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If Satan has the power to destroy you according to his will, then why would you be expecting a guaranteed "reward"?

Anyhow, Satan is a liar.

Here is the one who truly has the power to destroy you:

Luke chapter 12

[4] And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
[5] But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

When everything is said and done, you will appear before the Judgment Seat of Jesus Christ.

Satan won't be judging anybody, but will be condemned to eternal fire instead:

Matthew chapter 25

[31] When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
[32] And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
[33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
[34] Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[35] For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
[36] Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
[37] Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
[38] When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
[39] Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
[40] And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
[41] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

When Christ, NOT Satan, sits upon his throne of judgment, the wicked will be cast "into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS".

THIS truly is Satan's end.

Whatever he's been telling you, just believe the polar opposite because that is the actual truth.
As a devotee of Satan, as long as I am devoted and a decent human, I will join Satan in afterlife, I will be with him forever in peace. The legit meaning of RIP or Rest in Peace. Those who serve him, will be sent back to Earth again and again to spread his message.
 
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No, repenting is not begging. Neither does being born into and/or raised in a Christian home make you a Christian.

Repentance is a change of heart and mind toward God.

We are all born enemies of God, and hostile towards Him.
I was never hostile towards him. I just didn't care about him. I don't hate him, I just have no interest in him. He isn't what my soul wanted.
 
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As a devotee of Satan, as long as I am devoted and a decent human, I will join Satan in afterlife, I will be with him forever in peace. The legit meaning of RIP or Rest in Peace. Those who serve him, will be sent back to Earth again and again to spread his message.
And what guarantee do you have of this?

When one becomes a Christian, God seals them with the Holy Spirit, the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead:

Romans chapter 8

[10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[11] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

The indwelling Spirit of God is your guarantee that you will have an eternal inheritance one day, and you can receive the same by renouncing Satan and sin, and by being reconciled unto God through Jesus Christ.

Don't believe Satan's empty promises which are nothing more/less that outright lies.
 
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I was never hostile towards him. I just didn't care about him. I don't hate him, I just have no interest in him. He isn't what my soul wanted.
Your words remind me of the following:

John chapter 3

[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
[17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
[19] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
[20] For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
[21] But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

God didn't send Jesus into this world to condemn the world, but rather that the world might be saved through him.

HOWEVER, if you "love darkness rather than light", then you're sealing your own destruction willfully.
 
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And what guarantee do you have of this?

When one becomes a Christian, God seals them with the Holy Spirit, the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead:

Romans chapter 8

[10] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
[11] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

The indwelling Spirit of God is your guarantee that you will have an eternal inheritance one day, and you can receive the same by renouncing Satan and sin, and by being reconciled unto God through Jesus Christ.

Don't believe Satan's empty promises which are nothing more/less that outright lies.
I believe Satan because I am devoted. If there is no trust, there is no devotion.
 
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I believe Satan because I am devoted. If there is no trust, there is no devotion.
And if there's no guarantee, then you're a naïve devotee.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to you.

I have to deal with you honestly and straightforwardly because the stakes are eternal.

Hopefully, you understand.
 
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For I am willing to risk even my life for Satan. Because I trust that Satan won't let me die unless if it is time.
 
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And if there's no guarantee, then you're a naïve devotee.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful to you.

I have to deal with you honestly and straightforwardly because the stakes are eternal.

Hopefully, you understand.
Satan does not break promises. He is a deity.
 
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Satan does not break promises. He is a deity.
He's a fallen angel, and the father of lies.

Again, CHRIST is Satan's creator and judge...and yours and mine, too.
 
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