The problem with your questions are that no matter what evidence is presented, it is either dismissed out of hand, or the source of the information is savaged.
So no matter what we say, you either CAN see it, or you can’t.
Real pandemic vs fake pandemic
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So no matter what we say, you either CAN see it, or you can’t.
India is a big country. Where is your Video from? And when?
You shure that your Video is not manipulatet?
I have friends in seveak states in north and south india. Why they should lie when sending me the news of death family members?
It seens to me you are trusting everithing which is feeds your view.
and you the same.
i personally know someone who has a daughter that works in a e.r. in detriot.
they had a bad outbreak for real, she reported to her mom how hard it was for a couple of months.
i do not doubt that.
in my town, covid was nothing, only about 500 folks in the hospital with it over the last 14 months, less than 150 deaths, out of town of 130,000.
as i said, real, but overblown.
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As I said to him in another thread; he opinionates all over the place but offers NO proof of those opinions
Denying actual evidence and the many warnings of doctors who have something to lose by reporting these disastrous results, is foolhardy and IMO, those who have been vaccinated may just be getting a little afraid there might be something waiting for them down the road too
It's only been a few months of this poision being put into people. A year from now?
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Oh the evidence has been presented, is being presented and is going to get worse.
You are not protected by your opinnion. Plenty of proof has been provided in this and other threads.
You choose, yes CHOOSE, to deny it. That's how you perceive things so you know, just carry on.
Its depends where you live. Yes, of course the most will have no problems with the virus.
Its the question what counts a life. If you have the goal to do what you can for to safe every life, then you must try to avoid a overburden of the healthsystem.
The pictures from NY and northitaly last yeaer were no fake. Nobody knews how it would go on with this virus in Future.
Now we have various types more then last year which are more contagious and legal then the first ones. The other thing is you have no long term study, so nobody knows what the virus will do in the body on the long run. F.e. my friends (from different states) in india told that many dies after on the way of recovery from covidinfection because of heartstroke.
yes, and maybe it was just the flu and the people who died had pre-existing conditions so that the flu could kill them.. I know someone who had health issues and the flu took him... it happens all the time. I myself felt I was dying of the flu once, could barely make it to medical facility but did.. and here I am... Lucky me..
What is interesting is that total # of deaths in the US went DOWN in the months/years of Covid
explain that
my thought: people were protecting themselves, distancing, etc... and so they were protected from the flu even if... and some people doubt that covid really exists.. I have read things writting by scientists and PhDs who say it has not been properly studied.. so it hasn't been proven that it exists... as shown to us on the news..
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it really bothers me when someone goes " the deaths are down during covid- death rate stayed the same".
here is the numbers ( i checked them every week] - coming to the end of 2020, the u.s. was running about 80,000 more deaths than 2019, according to the C D C.
then right around dec.30, they adjusted the numbers to closely match the media reported numbers.
so, if you factor in that the death totals for the u.s. has increased between 15,000-22,000 per year since 2011. and the deaths that occurred due to folks not getting medical care out of fear of covid, the stress of being locked down, etc. there were probably about 40,000 or so actual covid deaths.
so, stop with the " there is no covid" and the " deaths are down during covid " non-sense. it makes it hard to convince folks about the fraud of covid when i get lumped in with covid deniers..
If we are Christians then what is waiting for is eternal life in heaven, whether we been vaxxed or not
I don't know to what extent the pandemic is overblown or not. I trust Jesus that He is in control. I rarely read the news these days and if I do it's more to pray for those suffering
Prayer is our only weapon against this kind of thing.
as the vaccine isn't the mark of the beast nothing bad is going to happened to us vaxxed people further down the line. Yes an antichri st could use future jabs as the mark. But the one already in use isn't the mark because most Christians would avoid it in that case
also the beast hasn't yet been revealed or set up his kingdom
there this British woman with a you tube channel who dressed all in white and claims that God is telling her that those taking the jab will be turned into zombies further down the line! People will believe anything these days!
people like that woman make me so angry. Looking so sweet and innocent and shy but spouting lies in the name of Jesus! Maybe she is a true believer who is genuinely deceived or maybe a jezebel false prophet type. Who knows? I pray God has mercy on her and shows her the truth .
You cannot (and should not) trust any of the statistics regarding either flu or COVID as published by CDC or other sources. What is crystal clear is that once you discount the inflated deaths (presumably from coronavirus but more likely from flu) there is nothing unusual. At the same time once you factor in proper reporting of the adverse effects and deaths from the bogus vaccines, those numbers are extremely alarming.
New US Figures: 3,848 Deaths, 118,902 Injuries After COVID Jabs, Inc. Children
https://principia-scientific.com/la...juries-after-covid-vaxxes-including-children/
According to the leading expert on COVID (Dr. Peter McCullough) even 25 deaths should have been too many.
Highly Cited COVID Doctor Comes to Stunning Conclusion: Government ‘Scrubbing Unprecedented Numbers’ of Injection-related Deaths
https://www.globalresearch.ca/highl...nted-numbers-injection-related-deaths/5744316
POINT 1- Many people know someone who has caught it- you are in the minority here.
POINT 2- In the UK we had to open up make-shift hospitals such as the Nightingale. Maybe there were empty beds in cancer wards and such but thats because we put the focus on COVID and neglected cancer patients- a cancer ward isnt the place for a COVID patient.
POINT 3- There are many many dead people- mortality rates have gone up.
POINT 4- Different people are running the country- contextual relevance also needs taking into account- during the Spanish flu there wasn't a media frenzy or crazy people on twitter nor tv shows trying to slate everybody and their views/ leadership.
POINT 5- any old random person can't help to treat COVID. Medicine has advanced since the Spanish flu and thus now more than ever requires qualified professionals- there is a reason it takes years to be a Doctor. A lot of peopler in the Spanish Flu days needed to help out at factories- factories are now partially automated and need less staff to run so thus less people need to help if the workers get sick.
POINT 6- Do you understand how Capitalism works? It is more prevalent than ever.
POINT 7- Perhaps we have more scientific knowledge then we did during the Spanish Flu- COVID is new and so we discover more about it everyday and the scientific advices changes to match. We have more scientists than we did then and they now have an easy platform- the internet- of course there are differing opinions. We all want a quick end to this pandemic and a return to normality, some people are just too selfish to follow advice and keep others safe.
POINT 8- I think the majority of people with a reasonable IQ are more concerned about death than a fine they might incur in the unlikely event they get caught breaking regulations.
POINT 9- Fights over toilet paper was due to panic- it was also massively exaggerated by the media. Do you really expect people to stay calm at the beginning of a pandemic when we are fighting an unknown virus?
Mate... Over here more people have died from lockdown suicide than from covid.
Average age of 40 years old. Not 85 years old...
So take it home
The bible tells us how to deal with epidemics... Quarantine the sick...
A proven practice over thousands of years and during real epidemics
Everything about this is criminal and your feeble excuses are all invalid
I am a devout follower of our Lord but you are spreading quite frankly dangerous misinformation. We do quarantine the sick but it’s not possible to quarantine everyone who has COVID as many never knew they had it. This was especially true before mass testing became possible. Therefore the only way to combat the virus was to reduce risk of transmission aka social distancing