Who Made Official, December 25th As The Birthday Of Jesus Christ?

[Truth7t7]

you have assumed that was a law as if we only remember Jesus in that way.

You read the word of God and create legalist requirements for the lord's Supper? I guess we are all do eat and drink every service or once a month ON the first day of the Month Or maybe once a quarter.

Yet Jesus never said any of those things pertaining to The Lord's supper.

Jesus Christ gave specific instruction to the Church on how to "Remember" him

Not His Birth, Not His Resurrection, But His "Death", Its That Simple

Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

 

[Dino246]

False Accusations

2 Timothy 3:2-3KJV
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

What a foolish response. Does the word, "relevant" mean anything to you?

 

[Dino246]

Jesus Christ gave specific instruction to the Church on how to "Remember" him

Not His Birth, Not His Resurrection, But His "Death", Its That Simple

Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

I see you're continuing your pattern of spamming the thread with the same cut-and-paste silliness.

There's no point in trying to have a conversation with a broken record.

 

[Blik]

Ok, in context to Jesus and what is known as the last supper He said " Do this in remembrance of me Luke 22:19.
To say it is wrong to celebrate his birth is nothing in scripture that says we can't. That is a legalistic man-made opinion.
Nowhere is scripture does Jesus say You are not to honor my birth, nor does he say we are to do so. Yet is not a sin to do so.

The only scripture I have found that would mean it is not pleasing to the Lord to create the holidays we have created is when the Lord tells us not to copy the pagans. Many of our celebrations are pagan copies that we have Christianized. People who celebrate these holidays are often completely unaware that they started as pagan celebrations. If these celebrations are sinful it would be sin we are not aware of.

However, if someone was deciding whether they should follow men or God, doctrine of men or scripture, they would ask scripture about what to celebrate and follow what they found in scripture. Some say scripture about celebrations are not scripture at all, but Jewish customs we are not obliged to follow like fleshly circumcision. There is no scripture that backs these claims or any scripture stating they are no simply Jewish custom.

It seems to me the basic law of the Lord explains this to us, and that basic law is love. There is no love in cutting of flesh but there is loads and loads of love in the feasts celebrating the salvation our Lord gives us.

 

[Truth7t7]

The only scripture I have found that would mean it is not pleasing to the Lord to create the holidays we have created is when the Lord tells us not to copy the pagans. Many of our celebrations are pagan copies that we have Christianized. People who celebrate these holidays are often completely unaware that they started as pagan celebrations. If these celebrations are sinful it would be sin we are not aware of.

However, if someone was deciding whether they should follow men or God, doctrine of men or scripture, they would ask scripture about what to celebrate and follow what they found in scripture. Some say scripture about celebrations are not scripture at all, but Jewish customs we are not obliged to follow like fleshly circumcision. There is no scripture that backs these claims or any scripture stating they are no simply Jewish custom.

It seems to me the basic law of the Lord explains this to us, and that basic law is love. There is no love in cutting of flesh but there is loads and loads of love in the feasts celebrating the salvation our Lord gives us.

100% Correct, Learn Not The Way Of The "Heathen"

Seen Below Is The Heathen Christmas Tree, Brought Into Many Christian Homes In The Name Of A False Birthday For Jesus

Jeremiah 10:2-5KJV
2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

Galatians 4:8-10KJV
8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Are you using these celebrations you endorse to celebrate the Lord, or do you use them to replace the celebrations that the lord suggests that we use?

The Lord warned us about copying pagan celebrations and trying to make them celebrations for Him. Are these celebrations you say is for the Lord truly for Him, or are the Christianized pagan ones?

I am with you, the Lord has used our Easter and Christmas for His kingdom, but at the same time, there are true questions about them. It seems to me these questions could best be answered by turning to the way that God told us to celebrate for that is celebrating the salvation the Lord has given us.

I have no idea what you mean. Do you mind clarifying?

 

[CS1]

Jesus Christ gave specific instruction to the Church on how to "Remember" him

Not His Birth, Not His Resurrection, But His "Death", Its That Simple

Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

The only thing Jesus said that was the most important of all laws was to Love the Lord thy God with all. Let me ask you think Did Jesus say it is mandatory to partake in what is called the Lord's Supper? and If I don't am I not saved? Or is it as Paul wrote in 1corinthains
we are to examine ourselves and not eat or drink unworthily? The context of the Lord's supper in 1cor was an abuse of that. The church there was getting drunk, coming for the free meal.

The Lord supper is the gospel message symbolically. it is not saying don't honor my birth, nor is it saying to honor my birth.

It is not a sin to honor, recognize, or celebrate the birth of our Lord. If don't want to do that please don't and no condemnation, but there is no sin in doing so. And the word of God doesn't say that is a sin to honor the birth of Jesus and Jesus did not say do not do it either.

 

[CS1]

The only scripture I have found that would mean it is not pleasing to the Lord to create the holidays we have created is when the Lord tells us not to copy the pagans. Many of our celebrations are pagan copies that we have Christianized. People who celebrate these holidays are often completely unaware that they started as pagan celebrations. If these celebrations are sinful it would be sin we are not aware of.

However, if someone was deciding whether they should follow men or God, doctrine of men or scripture, they would ask scripture about what to celebrate and follow what they found in scripture. Some say scripture about celebrations are not scripture at all, but Jewish customs we are not obliged to follow like fleshly circumcision. There is no scripture that backs these claims or any scripture stating they are no simply Jewish custom.

It seems to me the basic law of the Lord explains this to us, and that basic law is love. There is no love in cutting of flesh but there is loads and loads of love in the feasts celebrating the salvation our Lord gives us.

I wish you would have posted the scripture, it would have been most helpful. Yet Context is important.

Is the birth of Jesus a pagan belief? Or did it really happen? Was it pagans who gave us the word of God?

If you do not want to celebrate the birth of Jesus, doesn't, but those who try to use the word of God out of context to say it is a sin doing so is not true. "What about the Christmas tree"? I said the birth of Jesus. "What about Santa Claus "? I said the birth of Jesus.

Matthew chapter 23 in the NLT would be an excellent read for those legalist types. It was Jesus who called them out and called them hypocrites.

 

[ResidentAlien]

It's not impossible to imagine that the Light of the world might've come into the world on the darkest day... i.e., Arise shine thy light has come; darkness covers the earth and gross darkness the people but the glory of the Lord shall rise upon thee.

True, it's not impossible if you use your imagination. But based on the records we have of His birth it is impossible.

In paganism, virtually every religion worships facing east, the direction of sunrise. But in the Judaic temple worship, attention was focused west, on the Holy of Holies. God's way isn't the world's way.

 

[Truth7t7]

The only thing Jesus said that was the most important of all laws was to Love the Lord thy God with all. Let me ask you think Did Jesus say it is mandatory to partake in what is called the Lord's Supper? and If I don't am I not saved? Or is it as Paul wrote in 1corinthains
we are to examine ourselves and not eat or drink unworthily? The context of the Lord's supper in 1cor was an abuse of that. The church there was getting drunk, coming for the free meal.

The Lord supper is the gospel message symbolically. it is not saying don't honor my birth, nor is it saying to honor my birth.

It is not a sin to honor, recognize, or celebrate the birth of our Lord. If don't want to do that please don't and no condemnation, but there is no sin in doing so. And the word of God doesn't say that is a sin to honor the birth of Jesus and Jesus did not say do not do it either.

Were not talking about the law of commandments, but a direct instruction from God the Son Jesus Christ, Will You Add To His Words, Remembrace Of His Birth And Resurrection?

Jesus Christ gave a direct instruction to the Church on how to "Remember" him

Not His Birth, Not His Resurrection, But His "Death", Its That Simple

Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

 

[Mem]

True, it's not impossible if you use your imagination. But based on the records we have of His birth it is impossible.

In paganism, virtually every religion worships facing east, the direction of sunrise. But in the Judaic temple worship, attention was focused west, on the Holy of Holies. God's way isn't the world's way.

Although cognizant that I was leaving myself vulnerable with that particular choice of terms that too readily displayed an openness and trust for understanding (that is decidedly very dangerous here). I am now admonished to keep in mind that, to some, it is impossible to merely (now using the word that I might, but not always can be guaranteed, have been a better choice) even 'consider,' let alone allow others the freedom.

 

[Truth7t7]

Although cognizant that I was leaving myself vulnerable with that particular choice of terms that too readily displayed an openness and trust for understanding (that is decidedly very dangerous here). I am now admonished to keep in mind that, to some, it is impossible to merely (now using the word that I might, but not always can be guaranteed, have been a better choice) even 'consider,' let alone allow others the freedom.

A huge paragraph, in a conglomeration of words, that sorta went nowhere, in love

 

[Mem]

A huge paragraph, in a conglomeration of words, that sorta went nowhere, in love

Exactly! Yet, I remain ever hopeful there are ears... somewhere.... out there....

 

[Blik]

I have no idea what you mean. Do you mind clarifying?

Scripture gives us seven celebrations that we are told to have. These seven celebrations are celebrating the salvation that the Lord gives us from celebrating that
Christ frees us from the penalty of sin to establishing the new Jerusalem. Passover is one of them. The organized church has decided not to celebrate as scripture tells us, substituting man made celebratoins.

I am asking if you are aware these are substitutions of what scripture suggests? Are you celebrating these holidays instead of what God asks or do you think your celebrations are only celebrating the Lord?

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Scripture gives us seven celebrations that we are told to have. These seven celebrations are celebrating the salvation that the Lord gives us from celebrating that
Christ frees us from the penalty of sin to establishing the new Jerusalem. Passover is one of them. The organized church has decided not to celebrate as scripture tells us, substituting man made celebratoins.

I am asking if you are aware these are substitutions of what scripture suggests? Are you celebrating these holidays instead of what God asks or do you think your celebrations are only celebrating the Lord?

Name one of them for me please.

 

[CS1]

Were not talking about the law of commandments, but a direct instruction from God the Son Jesus Christ, Will You Add To His Words, Remembrace Of His Birth And Resurrection?

Jesus Christ gave a direct instruction to the Church on how to "Remember" him

Not His Birth, Not His Resurrection, But His "Death", Its That Simple

Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

If you are not then why are you trying to equate the word of Jesus as a directive to mean one cannot honor His birth when you said:

"Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church"

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

 

[Truth7t7]

If you are not then why are you trying to equate the word of Jesus as a directive to mean one cannot honor His birth when you said:

"Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church"

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

You try to complicate the very clear instruction of Jesus Christ below, why?

Jesus Christ gave a direct instruction to the Church on how to "Remember" him

Not His Birth, Not His Resurrection, But His "Death", Its That Simple

Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

1 Corinthians 11:23-26KJV
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

 

[Blik]

Name one of them for me please.

There are plenty sites on the net that explain the seven feasts the Lord tells us to celebrate, and how each feast is a celebration of the Lord's plan of salvation for us. Even if you believe that we should not follow that scripture, they should be studied as an outline of God's plan for our salvation, and the fall feasts prophecy the New Jerusalem.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

There are plenty sites on the net that explain the seven feasts the Lord tells us to celebrate, and how each feast is a celebration of the Lord's plan of salvation for us. Even if you believe that we should not follow that scripture, they should be studied as an outline of God's plan for our salvation, and the fall feasts prophecy the New Jerusalem.

Why don't you name one or two from the Bible? So I can look them up and read about them.

 

[SophieT]

Jesus Christ gave specific instruction to the Church on how to "Remember" him

Not His Birth, Not His Resurrection, But His "Death", Its That Simple

Jesus Christ gave a clear directive to the Church

(This Do In Remembrance Of Me)

if we only remember the death of Christ, shall we then proceed to forget the resurrection?

you have a problem. Jesus said many things and so many in fact, they are not all in the Bible (that is in the Bible though)

we shall just remember He died. never born and stayed dead.

I know for a FACT you do not do every single thing Jesus ever said to do. You gonna sell all you have and give it to the poor?

No no of course not cause He was only speaking to the rich young man

hey maybe Jesus was only speaking to those around Him in the upper room? I mean He was only talking to them....

you have so much in common with the Jehovah's Witnesses