Christian women are forgiven by God if not by some fanatically religious men.
We are not to feel eternally guilty for Eve's sin. End of.
We are not to feel eternally guilty for Eve's sin. End of.
Are WOMEN Pastors Biblical??
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amen , you like every Christian male have your own new relationship with God based on your own faith believing or rejecting the gospel Christ is now as a husband to whom you owe your loyalty
after all I think it was Mary’s loyalty and love for Jesus that made her the first disciple to preach the good news of the resurrection of Jesus our Lord
look at the rewards of dedication from Mary’s heart , it sort of dies away with the importance of her gender and she received first something the men would believe later having left first their gender didn’t offer revelation but Mary’s love for Jesus sure did
“Then the disciples went away again unto their own home. But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre, And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.”
John 20:10-18
Mary a woman was loyal to Jesus because she dearly loved him , he had forgiven her of her many sins and cleansed her demons and saved her teaching her the truth of God granting repentance to her he loved her first when she was lost .
even John had departed and Mary was left alone with the lord like the adulterous woman was in chapter 8 she saw and heard from two heavenly beings , spoke to them , saw and heard from Jesus , then heard him call her name and recognized what had happened it was her lord for whom she wept and Mary then is given the very first commission to speak Jesus word to the brethren
in another account lol we acrually
Learn that the men had missed out on the truth because they didn’t believe “ some of the women who told them of the risen lord “
Christ means that gender is like being a Jew or gentile it’s importance recedes as the flesh recedes and faith fills the void in us until we see this way
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:27-29 KJV
I would hate to miss a word God have someone just based on the flesh appearance of male or female is rather look at thier faith in the lord
Don't worry. I certainly reported several of ChoirLoft's post. If we get enough people reporting him, we wn't have to put up with his anger and arrogance, to say nothing of his mistaken ideas about salvation, which are the opposite of what God says in his Word. IOW, heresy!
amen , you like every Christian male have your own new relationship with God based on your own faith believing or rejecting the gospel Christ is now as a husband to whom you owe your loyalty
after all I think it was Mary’s loyalty and love for Jesus that made her the first disciple to preach the good news of the resurrection of Jesus our Lord
look at the rewards of dedication from Mary’s heart , it sort of dies away with the importance of her gender and she received first something the men would believe later having left first their gender didn’t offer revelation but Mary’s love for Jesus sure did
“Then the disciples went away again unto their own home. But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre, And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.”
John 20:10-18
Mary a woman was loyal to Jesus because she dearly loved him , he had forgiven her of her many sins and cleansed her demons and saved her teaching her the truth of God granting repentance to her he loved her first when she was lost .
even John had departed and Mary was left alone with the lord like the adulterous woman was in chapter 8 she saw and heard from two heavenly beings , spoke to them , saw and heard from Jesus , then heard him call her name and recognized what had happened it was her lord for whom she wept and Mary then is given the very first commission to speak Jesus word to the brethren
in another account lol we acrually
Learn that the men had missed out on the truth because they didn’t believe “ some of the women who told them of the risen lord “
Christ means that gender is like being a Jew or gentile it’s importance recedes as the flesh recedes and faith fills the void in us until we see this way
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:27-29 KJV
I would hate to miss a word God have someone just based on the flesh appearance of male or female is rather look at thier faith in the lord
And, noting who called out the (forgiven) sin of the woman with the alabaster jar, a one who had no love nor real character of his own, it's just typically of those having no true life of their own and so too often rather suck it out of those that do and, I couldn't help but notice, quite obsessively.
When one wishes to support anti-Biblical/SECULAR politically correct propaganda one usually departs radically from Biblical teaching. Such is the case with the quoted post above.
No chapter or verse is quoted for the initial attack against God's Word. Instead a private interpretation, politically motivated, is substituted. When the Bible addresses men in a certain way, it's referring to men. When it refers to women the same is true. The two are different, as most will agree except those who choose to pervert Biblical teaching.
The spiritual construct, mentioned in the last line is not Biblically based. One might even go so far as to say its an echo of the Opposer or that which whispered into the ear of Eve so long ago. It whispers into the ears of women today who despise the Bible and choose to write their own scripture. Usually its purpose is to further their own agenda, which is normally opposed to God and the authority He has placed men in over women.
Misandric American women tend to disregard and disrespect men as well as God's Word so as to create their own form of demonic spirituality. Beware lest you fall into their error and find yourself in opposition to God. Strict adherence to the Biblical standard is the only sure way of interpretation.
that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
The truth of what I wrote isn't in dispute here. What is being opposed is the fact I wrote it.
Censorship, it seems, is the only weapon in such an argument. Can the Bible be quoted, chapter and verse, to prove my error? If you can do so, I'd be very interested to read it. If you can prove me wrong by correct interpretation of God's Word, then I will admit to an error and apologize. Until then the error may be only in your mind and posts.
Meanwhile you risk violations of the 9th commandment and bear false witness against me - calling me a liar when you have no proof of it except that you don't like what I wrote.
I'll repeat what I wrote earlier that even the Word of God doesn't seem to be an adequate barrier against women who hate to hear good counsel.
that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
When spiritual discernment is lacking, use the letter to discredit it, and throw in the appeal to the stick. This has worked wonderfully for many nutjobs up to this point.
The issue in my post addressed GOD's authority as given to humanity and how it was GIVEN AWAY to the Opposer (satan).
This thread purportedly addressed the question of women serving as pastors.
If the question is to be examined from a Biblical point of view, it ought to be acknowledged that a woman in such a position might occasionally refer to the Bible in one of her dissertations. Unfortunately no woman has provided an adequate dispassionate Biblically authoritative argument for women serving as pastors. Instead all manner of false accusations, which are violations of the 9th commandment, and politically correct justification has been substituted. One may suppose that such women, if placed in a position of leadership, might use this anti-Biblical point of view to justify their politics RATHER THAN GOD'S OPINION.
In point of fact, God is not interested in female opinions. He's not interested in anyone else's opinion either. It is rather our duty to be interested in God's opinion as expressed in eloquent detail in His Word. Unfortunately, the post protestant church infected as it is with politically correct attitudes and anti-Christian ideology, is not the place to go for Godly instruction or leadership. Could this be why our churches are suffering from lack of attendance as the years go by (ref: PEW & Gallup polls).
Bottom line is that God placed authority over women in the hands of men (Genesis 3). St. Paul warned against women in positions of leadership in church.
It is time to repent of our private politics and seek God's truth - interpreting it as it is meant to be interpreted by reading good doctrine out of the Bible - NOT reading one's ideology into it.
that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
amen , you like every Christian male have your own new relationship with God based on your own faith believing or rejecting the gospel Christ is now as a husband to whom you owe your loyalty
after all I think it was Mary’s loyalty and love for Jesus that made her the first disciple to preach the good news of the resurrection of Jesus our Lord
look at the rewards of dedication from Mary’s heart , it sort of dies away with the importance of her gender and she received first something the men would believe later having left first their gender didn’t offer revelation but Mary’s love for Jesus sure did
“Then the disciples went away again unto their own home. But Mary stood without at the sepulchre weeping: and as she wept, she stooped down, and looked into the sepulchre, And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
And they say unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? She saith unto them, Because they have taken away my Lord, and I know not where they have laid him.
And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus. Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master. Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that she had seen the Lord, and that he had spoken these things unto her.”
John 20:10-18
Mary a woman was loyal to Jesus because she dearly loved him , he had forgiven her of her many sins and cleansed her demons and saved her teaching her the truth of God granting repentance to her he loved her first when she was lost .
even John had departed and Mary was left alone with the lord like the adulterous woman was in chapter 8 she saw and heard from two heavenly beings , spoke to them , saw and heard from Jesus , then heard him call her name and recognized what had happened it was her lord for whom she wept and Mary then is given the very first commission to speak Jesus word to the brethren
in another account lol we acrually
Learn that the men had missed out on the truth because they didn’t believe “ some of the women who told them of the risen lord “
Christ means that gender is like being a Jew or gentile it’s importance recedes as the flesh recedes and faith fills the void in us until we see this way
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Galatians 3:27-29 KJV
I would hate to miss a word God have someone just based on the flesh appearance of male or female is rather look at thier faith in the lord
Mary was the first witness of the resurrection, but that didn't make her an apostle.
An apostle was granted an anointing by God to preach the gospel.
Big difference despite your use of large letter font.
that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
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SophieT
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his remarks about women in that post were especially nasty
people just keep showing us all who they really are
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SophieT
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you do not offer good counsel and your remarks about women only underscore your misogynistic leanings
a person needs a shower after some of your posts and it is not just this thread. you are forever illustrating why so many think Christians are nutjobs. most women I know, would put you to shame. you are not, I repeat, not representing Christ
Again one needs to refer to the Bible to determine the basis of forgiveness.
According to the LAW, which Jesus often quoted and declared He didn't come to abolish (Matt 5:17), forgiveness is NOT granted universally. Forgiveness is NOT handed out like Easter candy or Christmas presents.
Forgiveness is NOT granted to anyone unless they come humbly before the altar of God. It isn't granted unless they bring a sacrifice for their SIN with them. It isn't granted unless they REPENT of their SIN and it isn't granted by God unless they ASK for it.
It is ironic that so many claim the gift of forgiveness for themselves (without repenting of their own SIN) even as they use their own Biblical ignorance to accuse others. Accusation, according to the Bible, is the primary weapon of the devil and its disciples.
They are known by the fruits of their work.
It is time to REPENT of our SIN and seek God's forgiveness. It will not be granted any other way. Pride won't buy it and demands of personal rights carry no currency in the kingdom of God.
According to the Bible, God has place men in authority over women.
Disciples of hell deny it.
that's me, hollering from the choir loft..
I would add;
" through one woman sin entered the world, but through one woman the savior entered..."
Or something like that.
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SophieT
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men like you? I could see that happening
Which female pastor have I accused? Which one have I squashed?
I have only stated the Biblical principle and reiterated God's authority of men to preach and teach.
If that's wrong in your opinion I can only say that God isn't interested in your opinion - or mine either for that matter.
It is our duty to educate ourselves in God's opinion and to follow it.
If following God's LAW in this regard is odious to you, then I suggest you familiarize yourself with scripture. Apart from a humble attitude toward God, one will learn nothing.
that's me, hollering from the choir loft....
Tell it to your parish, I'm not of that number, not even by default,
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SophieT
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how do you manage to get your gigantic head through a doorway with all that hot air you spout?
another law keeper then? as it is, it's you bearing false witness. you really need to fill your piehole with something else besides threats and condemnation
that's just me, studying scripture and knowing how very out of touch with reality you are