Pro-abortion politicians receiving Holy Communion against Church teaching/law

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JesusWhereRU

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Where are mortal and venial sins in scripture?
does all of Jesus fit into a finite book?

it even says in the Word that if all Jesus said and did were written down, the whole world could not contain it all
 

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As long as you know you are free in Christ. I know people who fall away again because they feel they can't be perfect. So I just wanted to point that out.
that is true, we cannot be perfect

without help every step of the way.. (and even then.. well, whatever)

It is the Real Presence that makes me appreciate the Catholic Church... The human aspect of the RCC is... again

BAD
 
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I have copied this to read later... very busy these days, will get back soon
I didn't mean to derail, I certainly agree, anyone who supports the murder of the unborn should not be allowed communion.
 

JesusWhereRU

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I didn't mean to derail, I certainly agree, anyone who supports the murder of the unborn should not be allowed communion.
what did u "derail"?

I have never had a problem w/ any of your posts..

which is kinda uncommon :)
 

mustaphadrink

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does all of Jesus fit into a finite book?

it even says in the Word that if all Jesus said and did were written down, the whole world could not contain it all
Where are mortal and venial sins in scripture?
 

mustaphadrink

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I don't understand the catholic church I must admit. When it comes to things like abortion they are on the frontline of opposing it. The same with euthanasia.

Then you turn a corner and they believe all sorts of mumbo jumbo invented by them and dress up in all sorts of fancy dress that would make a drag queen proud. Over the years they have invented all sorts of ways to obtain ones salvation and ignored by grace alone.

Of course one of the worst aspects of the catholic church is the abuse of children by priests.

One might say when they are good they are really, really good and when they are bad they are really really bad.
 

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I don't understand the catholic church I must admit. When it comes to things like abortion they are on the frontline of opposing it. The same with euthanasia.

Then you turn a corner and they believe all sorts of mumbo jumbo invented by them and dress up in all sorts of fancy dress that would make a drag queen proud. Over the years they have invented all sorts of ways to obtain ones salvation and ignored by grace alone.

Of course one of the worst aspects of the catholic church is the abuse of children by priests.

One might say when they are good they are really, really good and when they are bad they are really really bad.
I don't understand the catholic church I must admit. When it comes to things like abortion they are on the frontline of opposing it. The same with euthanasia.

Then you turn a corner and they believe all sorts of mumbo jumbo invented by them and dress up in all sorts of fancy dress that would make a drag queen proud. Over the years they have invented all sorts of ways to obtain ones salvation and ignored by grace alone.

Of course one of the worst aspects of the catholic church is the abuse of children by priests.

One might say when they are good they are really, really good and when they are bad they are really really bad.
Their are several mistakenly made assumptions made by non Catholics over and over.

#1 They actually mean the RCC because there is another branch of Catholicism called the Orthodox church.

#2 Because the bible was closed off well more than a thousand years ago, anything that has been spoken or learned is immediately deemed as invalid by non Catholics. Both the RCC and the Orthodox churches are very similar in their faith system and they have a deep history with learnings from prophets going all the way back to Christ himself.

#3 So therefore this 'made up mumbo jumbo' is from over 2000 years worth of learning. And to say that if it aint in the bible it aint true is just ridiculous. These beliefs have stood the test of the ages because they have borne positive fruit.

#4 The rogue priests you talk of. If you are RCC and you've heard of the events of Fatima, Portugal then you are not surprised. We were warned about priests leading flocks into damnation.
 

JesusWhereRU

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#89
Where are mortal and venial sins in scripture?
I have not memorized the scriptures that say such things as:

Pray for those in sin.. I do not say to pray for those in [can't recall the exact words but the words Serious Sin come to mind]

Then there is the sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is of course the unforgivable sin, whereas others are forgivable..

BTW the unforgivable sin IS not saying something. It is not saying things like "God is a jerk" or whatever... It is a turning away from the Truth of Jesus Christ, the truth of NEEDING His Gift of Salvation, KNOWING that this really is the Truth.

This is one reason most people end up in Hell: they reject Absolute Truth aka Jesus
 

JesusWhereRU

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I don't understand the catholic church I must admit. When it comes to things like abortion they are on the frontline of opposing it. The same with euthanasia.

Then you turn a corner and they believe all sorts of mumbo jumbo invented by them and dress up in all sorts of fancy dress that would make a drag queen proud. Over the years they have invented all sorts of ways to obtain ones salvation and ignored by grace alone.

Of course one of the worst aspects of the catholic church is the abuse of children by priests.

One might say when they are good they are really, really good and when they are bad they are really really bad.
well, this is what u have been told by the liberal media which also hates the Catholic Church (and it's "subsidiaries" the non-Catholic churches or communities [There is only ONE Church]).

you really ought to educate yourself rather than imbibing the fake news the media encourages us to imbibe. And also, the "priests" who abuse / molest children are in all likelihood infiltrators who despise the Church and want to bring scandal so that other Catholics fall away. Just because Jesus said that the very gates of Hell will not prevail against HIS Church does not mean the devil will not TRY to destroy it. And of course he has, he is doing so..

That's why I always tell people that it is the OLD Church I speak of when I say Catholic (unless i specify otherwise). This new thing ... is a new and different thing.. although Jesus is still There... you just have to ignore all the stupid humans you encounter.
 

JesusWhereRU

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Their are several mistakenly made assumptions made by non Catholics over and over.

#1 They actually mean the RCC because there is another branch of Catholicism called the Orthodox church.

#2 Because the bible was closed off well more than a thousand years ago, anything that has been spoken or learned is immediately deemed as invalid by non Catholics. Both the RCC and the Orthodox churches are very similar in their faith system and they have a deep history with learnings from prophets going all the way back to Christ himself.

#3 So therefore this 'made up mumbo jumbo' is from over 2000 years worth of learning. And to say that if it aint in the bible it aint true is just ridiculous. These beliefs have stood the test of the ages because they have borne positive fruit.

#4 The rogue priests you talk of. If you are RCC and you've heard of the events of Fatima, Portugal then you are not surprised. We were warned about priests leading flocks into damnation.
Thanks for this..

between u and I it seems we have given the best answers to ... well, u know... the usual stereotypical anti-Catholic stuff people take in from the liars in society, aka those who work for Satan... i think of that Scripture that says something like "Let all men be liars..."

Well, I have lived many moons on this earth and I see that most people ARE liars... and the ones who aren't are ignorant and don't know they are ignorant and... some don't care.. and etc... etc..
 

mustaphadrink

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well, this is what u have been told by the liberal media which also hates the Catholic Church (and it's "subsidiaries" the non-Catholic churches or communities [There is only ONE Church]).

you really ought to educate yourself rather than imbibing the fake news the media encourages us to imbibe. And also, the "priests" who abuse / molest children are in all likelihood infiltrators who despise the Church and want to bring scandal so that other Catholics fall away. Just because Jesus said that the very gates of Hell will not prevail against HIS Church does not mean the devil will not TRY to destroy it. And of course he has, he is doing so..

That's why I always tell people that it is the OLD Church I speak of when I say Catholic (unless i specify otherwise). This new thing ... is a new and different thing.. although Jesus is still There... you just have to ignore all the stupid humans you encounter.
Sorry but I have to disagree with you. I do not under any circumstances imbibe fake news. I rarely read fake news. I have my sources who are usually at the rock face of things and expose fake news.

Try again.
 

mustaphadrink

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I have not memorized the scriptures that say such things as:

Pray for those in sin.. I do not say to pray for those in [can't recall the exact words but the words Serious Sin come to mind]

Then there is the sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, which is of course the unforgivable sin, whereas others are forgivable..

BTW the unforgivable sin IS not saying something. It is not saying things like "God is a jerk" or whatever... It is a turning away from the Truth of Jesus Christ, the truth of NEEDING His Gift of Salvation, KNOWING that this really is the Truth.

This is one reason most people end up in Hell: they reject Absolute Truth aka Jesus
Thankyou for confirming for me that mortal and venial sin is not mentioned in the scripture. It seems to me like an invention of the catholic church to give them more kudos.
 

mustaphadrink

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Their are several mistakenly made assumptions made by non Catholics over and over.

#1 They actually mean the RCC because there is another branch of Catholicism called the Orthodox church.

#2 Because the bible was closed off well more than a thousand years ago, anything that has been spoken or learned is immediately deemed as invalid by non Catholics. Both the RCC and the Orthodox churches are very similar in their faith system and they have a deep history with learnings from prophets going all the way back to Christ himself.

#3 So therefore this 'made up mumbo jumbo' is from over 2000 years worth of learning. And to say that if it aint in the bible it aint true is just ridiculous. These beliefs have stood the test of the ages because they have borne positive fruit.

#4 The rogue priests you talk of. If you are RCC and you've heard of the events of Fatima, Portugal then you are not surprised. We were warned about priests leading flocks into damnation.
Nice try, but I am not one of those ignorant ones as I worked in the catholic education system so I saw everything first hand. And I specialised in asking dye in the wool catholics pertinent questions.
 

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Nice try, but I am not one of those ignorant ones as I worked in the catholic education system so I saw everything first hand. And I specialised in asking dye in the wool catholics pertinent questions.
So, you're disgruntled then.

You don't have to believe what Catholics do. But being militantly against us isn't going to do anything either. I believe what I do because it resonates with me. I am perfectly fine with other versions of Christianity because I know our system isn't for everyone. How about you return the favour and play nice instead of running us down at every opportunity.
 

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Thankyou for confirming for me that mortal and venial sin is not mentioned in the scripture. It seems to me like an invention of the catholic church to give them more kudos.
a lot of things aren't mentioned in the Bible. Your name isn't there (first, middle, last)

does that mean u don't exist?

ha ha...

ok, u exist obviously

does it mean that you have nothing to say to me about Jesus?

well, that could be true...
 

JesusWhereRU

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Sorry but I have to disagree with you. I do not under any circumstances imbibe fake news. I rarely read fake news. I have my sources who are usually at the rock face of things and expose fake news.

Try again.
anyone who thinks the Catholic Church [well, u could fill in the blanks, but one example: thinks the Catholic Church] teaches, say, that Mary saves same as Jesus

has imbibed fake news (fake information)
 

JesusWhereRU

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you could fill in the blanks w/ many other things as well

the pope can't sin? Please. When did the Church or any pope teach that? No, you hear it from protestant pastors who want u to go to their "church"

Believe it or not, some of those said pastors are not above lying...

I know it is hard to believe... but many human beings are liars / deceivers... and put $$ over Christ
 

mustaphadrink

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anyone who thinks the Catholic Church [well, u could fill in the blanks, but one example: thinks the Catholic Church] teaches, say, that Mary saves same as Jesus

has imbibed fake news (fake information)
What has that got to do with me. I have never taught that.
 

mustaphadrink

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a lot of things aren't mentioned in the Bible. Your name isn't there (first, middle, last)

does that mean u don't exist?

ha ha...

ok, u exist obviously

does it mean that you have nothing to say to me about Jesus?

well, that could be true...
But my name is in the lamb's book of life and that is just as important.

Jesus Christ is Lord. Will that do?