Respecting the law
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do you respect the law
But If a person Is trying to function under law and they break the law do they respect the law?Remember though GOD requires perfection so then If a law Is broken can a person still respect the law and break the law?
Under the new covenant GOD had mercy even If we break the law because Now Its not about keeping the law but Its about faith.
So then I don’t respect the law as far as trying to keep It but I respect It as part of the origin of Christianity.
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But If a person Is trying to function under law and they break the law do they respect the law?Remember though GOD requires perfection so then If a law Is broken can a person still respect the law and break the law?
Under the new covenant GOD had mercy even If we break the law because Now Its not about keeping the law but Its about faith.
So then I don’t respect the law as far as trying to keep It but I respect It as part of the origin of Christianity.
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have a look at this scripture
“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
John 1:17 KJV
Does this scripture say that moses created law ?
have a look at this scripture
“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
John 1:17 KJV
Does this scripture say that moses created law ?
your the one making accusations and pushing for trouble.
When I am responding to your post, I am addressing you. If you don't like being addressed directly, you're in the wrong forum.[/QUOTE]another accusation, the goodness of God leads a person to repentance plus the lord says he doesnt like the arrogrant as well.
i respect these laws do you ?
When I am responding to your post, I am addressing you. If you don't like being addressed directly, you're in the wrong forum.
[/QUOTE]another accusation, the goodness of God leads a person to repentance plus the lord says he doesnt like the arrogrant as well.i respect these laws do you ?
why do you want to know ?. is it so you can carry on to single me out just like you have done allready ?.
how many time have you and others tried to single me out now ? have you and others decided to hate me because i asked a question can a christian become possessed.
carry on to single me out if you want im beyond being offended here anymore.
how many time have you and others tried to single me out now ? have you and others decided to hate me because i asked a question can a christian become possessed.
carry on to single me out if you want im beyond being offended here anymore.
well all i can say is nobody is perfect, do you respect that law ?
How diffacult is it to say whether you respect the law or not. its just an honest question.
its not a trick question. this is a christian forum so it shouldnt be diffacult to know the laws im asking to be respected is the the holy laws of our messiah Jesus.
you only have to anwser yes or no.
I really have no idea why none of you have answered straight away. you either do respect the laws of God or you dont. which is it. im seariously thinking of going elsewhere.
How diffacult is it to say whether you respect the law or not. its just an honest question.
its not a trick question. this is a christian forum so it shouldnt be diffacult to know the laws im asking to be respected is the the holy laws of our messiah Jesus.
you only have to anwser yes or no.
I really have no idea why none of you have answered straight away. you either do respect the laws of God or you dont. which is it. im seariously thinking of going elsewhere.
You're welcome to go or stay... whichever you choose. Your continued presence doesn't obligate anyone to answer your question. If you are upset because nobody has answered it, your skin probably isn't thick enough.
It's not an honest question, by the way, it's a leading question, because "law" means something different to you than it does to most people here. So, when you ask, "Do you respect the law?" you mean one thing, and most others read something quite different.
Here's a suggestion: read through Romans, Galatians and Hebrews, and see how "law" is used there. See how the writers argue about the relationship of the Christian to "law".
One more thing: "Nobody is perfect" is not a law.
It's not an honest question, by the way, it's a leading question, because "law" means something different to you than it does to most people here. So, when you ask, "Do you respect the law?" you mean one thing, and most others read something quite different.
Here's a suggestion: read through Romans, Galatians and Hebrews, and see how "law" is used there. See how the writers argue about the relationship of the Christian to "law".
One more thing: "Nobody is perfect" is not a law.
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this is were people have it mixed up.
The law does not make us perfect, and we can never keep the law to be good enough, there will be no boasting in heaven that we did it ourselves.
But the law (10 commandments) is the standard of righteousness (sinlessness). when written on the heart the way God designed we become more and more Christlike in character. If we say it does not apply today the standard of sin is taken away and we have no need of repentance.
when you sin, what defines it as sin?
The law does not make us perfect, and we can never keep the law to be good enough, there will be no boasting in heaven that we did it ourselves.
But the law (10 commandments) is the standard of righteousness (sinlessness). when written on the heart the way God designed we become more and more Christlike in character. If we say it does not apply today the standard of sin is taken away and we have no need of repentance.
when you sin, what defines it as sin?
Many affirm that Christ had abolished the moral law, and that Christians are therefore under no obligation to observe it; that a believer is freed from the “bondage of good works.”
Others that believe “they cannot fall from grace or forfeit the divine favour,” arrive at the still more hideous conclusion that “the wicked actions they commit are not really sinful, or considered as instances of the violation of the divine law, and that consequently they have no occasion either to confess their sins or to repent and turn from their sin. Therefore, they declared that even one of the vilest of sins is not a sin in the sight of God, it is believed that they cannot do anything which is either displeasing to God or prohibited by the law.”
---dangerous ground.
it is the moral law that points out my sin so i turn to Jesus for my salvation.
Others that believe “they cannot fall from grace or forfeit the divine favour,” arrive at the still more hideous conclusion that “the wicked actions they commit are not really sinful, or considered as instances of the violation of the divine law, and that consequently they have no occasion either to confess their sins or to repent and turn from their sin. Therefore, they declared that even one of the vilest of sins is not a sin in the sight of God, it is believed that they cannot do anything which is either displeasing to God or prohibited by the law.”
---dangerous ground.
it is the moral law that points out my sin so i turn to Jesus for my salvation.
as a man thinketh -- so he is
Christ as the perfect law keeper/perfect man had respect to every law that pertained to Him and others around Him, His environment and God -- physically -- and spiritually
you forgot: (3) maybe (4) i don't know (5) sometimes (6) praying about it (7) working on it, ect (8) alnost there - Jesus lives at my house!
The Law says nothing about blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Lord Jesus said that to those who kept the law with the utmost zeal.
The problem with the Law is that it is written on stone. No one can have a relationship with a rock. God's intent, if you look into it, was that Israel should have a relationship with Him. The people were terrified and refused. They made Moses their representative. So Israel came under the rule of Law instead of a relationship. What marriage would survive a regimented set of rules? Breakfast at 6.00 am, no matter what? Lunch at 1.00 pm no matter what the circumstances? That's what the Law is like. You cannot appeal to the mercy of a stone.
This was God's deliberate choice. He need not have given the Law. But there was a serious purpose, and that was to bring us to Christ. Christ is the fulfillment of the law for those who believe. He gives us instructions, but He also is the power to obey. All the Law did was expose the pride and rebellion of the human heart. Christ came to give us a new heart, new life only found in Him. So the law achieves its purpose and is no longer required. We now can live by the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. That is abundant life. The Law is a shadow. Those who live by the law are living in shadows. I prefer the light.
The problem with the Law is that it is written on stone. No one can have a relationship with a rock. God's intent, if you look into it, was that Israel should have a relationship with Him. The people were terrified and refused. They made Moses their representative. So Israel came under the rule of Law instead of a relationship. What marriage would survive a regimented set of rules? Breakfast at 6.00 am, no matter what? Lunch at 1.00 pm no matter what the circumstances? That's what the Law is like. You cannot appeal to the mercy of a stone.
This was God's deliberate choice. He need not have given the Law. But there was a serious purpose, and that was to bring us to Christ. Christ is the fulfillment of the law for those who believe. He gives us instructions, but He also is the power to obey. All the Law did was expose the pride and rebellion of the human heart. Christ came to give us a new heart, new life only found in Him. So the law achieves its purpose and is no longer required. We now can live by the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus. That is abundant life. The Law is a shadow. Those who live by the law are living in shadows. I prefer the light.
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oh come on it is an honest question, the op does the question no favour in one sence because you see the fear of Judgment. but thats not my fault because im only repeating what the law says.
I posted this in another forum, i would like to know what you think of my analogy and i hope that we can be freinds and welcome your reply what ever it may be.
Here is my analogy.
are job is to obey the law the best we can. i think the problem is to many people equate the law to Gods wrath and then become defensive, That Jesus loves them.
People will do this automaticaly in there mind without realising it. Ive noticed this trend that people assume your equating works and the law to Gods wrath that your automaticaly assuming your doing good works or obeying the law to avoid Gods Judgemenet, I think theres many in here that live in fear of Gods Judgement but they dont know that they are, and then they get defensive. In turn they do the same thing and preach a side of Gods law that avoids Gods Judgement to, which is we are free from the curse of law, or the law does not save you or we are not under the law, its the same thought in mind that everyone in some way or another is in fear of Gods Judgement. and want to avoid Gods Judgement and this is how you do it etc.
Both sides are still in fear of the lord and come to know the lord lol
I posted this in another forum, i would like to know what you think of my analogy and i hope that we can be freinds and welcome your reply what ever it may be.
Here is my analogy.
are job is to obey the law the best we can. i think the problem is to many people equate the law to Gods wrath and then become defensive, That Jesus loves them.
People will do this automaticaly in there mind without realising it. Ive noticed this trend that people assume your equating works and the law to Gods wrath that your automaticaly assuming your doing good works or obeying the law to avoid Gods Judgemenet, I think theres many in here that live in fear of Gods Judgement but they dont know that they are, and then they get defensive. In turn they do the same thing and preach a side of Gods law that avoids Gods Judgement to, which is we are free from the curse of law, or the law does not save you or we are not under the law, its the same thought in mind that everyone in some way or another is in fear of Gods Judgement. and want to avoid Gods Judgement and this is how you do it etc.
Both sides are still in fear of the lord and come to know the lord lol