How to be guaranteed heaven?

[Chester]

@Chester
Yes what do you think these ongoing results are?
And you think those who have believed can or cannot stop believing?


Ah ok you did not watch 1 of the 2 videos fully, thank you for answering, what is it which was said in these videos that you think is contrary to a verse of the bible?

First of all, since you have not been able to give me a verse that clearly states your following statement (in bold below), I am going to assume you are admitting that there is no such teaching directly stated in the Bible. And thus the following statement is simply your personal belief and not a direct Bible doctrine. (And that is OK - you are are allowed to believe the Bible teaches whatever you want to say it says.)
"If you have not believed yet that Jesus has given to you unlosable eternal life: You are guaranteed hell. " = your own belief and doctrine (If this is not so please show me a Scripture that states the preceding - in bold print.)

Now your questions:
(1) "ongoing results" - the Greek perfect tense is possible to be taken in numerous different ways depending on the context and the verb meaning
(2) Can those who have believed stop believing? -- The answer to that may not be as important as we think - What matters is what the Bible says about the subject: One thing I do know is that the person who is believing in Jesus is saved. The one who is not believing in Jesus is not saved.
(3) The video: at 2:04 - he quotes Paul at Philippi (Acts 16:31) - "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy house, and that's it." My Bible (KJV) doesn't have those last three words - "and that's it" - and as far as I know there is no evidence anywhere that Paul said or implied those three words here. And a little later he quotes some powerful wonderful verses about salvation that talk about believing in Jesus and you will have everlasting life! Yes, and amen! PTL! What a Saviour! But then at 2:58 he suddenly injects "you can't lose your salvation" - Not sure where he got that from - I suppose he got it from the doctrine that he believes?! The verses he had just been quoting didn't say that!???? From there things got further and further away from the text and into personal doctrine - and that is OK = Each person is allowed to believe what they want.

 

[Magenta]

1 John 5:11 - And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

1 John 5:11-13

 

[HatedForNoReason]

First of all, since you have not been able to give me a verse that clearly states your following statement (in bold below), I am going to assume you are admitting that there is no such teaching directly stated in the Bible. And thus the following statement is simply your personal belief and not a direct Bible doctrine. (And that is OK - you are are allowed to believe the Bible teaches whatever you want to say it says.)
"If you have not believed yet that Jesus has given to you unlosable eternal life: You are guaranteed hell. " = your own belief and doctrine (If this is not so please show me a Scripture that states the preceding - in bold print.)

Now your questions:
(1) "ongoing results" - the Greek perfect tense is possible to be taken in numerous different ways depending on the context and the verb meaning
(2) Can those who have believed stop believing? -- The answer to that may not be as important as we think - What matters is what the Bible says about the subject: One thing I do know is that the person who is believing in Jesus is saved. The one who is not believing in Jesus is not saved.
(3) The video: at 2:04 - he quotes Paul at Philippi (Acts 16:31) - "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved and thy house, and that's it." My Bible (KJV) doesn't have those last three words - "and that's it" - and as far as I know there is no evidence anywhere that Paul said or implied those three words here. And a little later he quotes some powerful wonderful verses about salvation that talk about believing in Jesus and you will have everlasting life! Yes, and amen! PTL! What a Saviour! But then at 2:58 he suddenly injects "you can't lose your salvation" - Not sure where he got that from - I suppose he got it from the doctrine that he believes?! The verses he had just been quoting didn't say that!???? From there things got further and further away from the text and into personal doctrine - and that is OK = Each person is allowed to believe what they want.

John 10:28-30
King James Version

28 And I (Jesus) give unto them (God's elects) eternal life; and they (God's elects) shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.

God gives the Holy Spirit to God's elect, remove sinful nature and replaces it with Jesus holy nature=natural not to sin.

 

[Dino246]

John 10:28-30
King James Version

28 And I (Jesus) give unto them (God's elects) eternal life; and they (God's elects) shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.

God gives the Holy Spirit to God's elect, remove sinful nature and replaces it with Jesus holy nature=natural not to sin.

Verse 27 makes it clear that the "them" of verse 28 is "My sheep", not "God's elects". The term "God's elects" is weighed down with baggage.

 

[MatthewKJV]

@Chester
John 11:26 “whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die”
John 3:16 “whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”
John 3:18 “he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed”
If you have not believed Jesus gave you an everlasting life which makes it so that you will never die;
=> God himself authoritatively promises that you are condemned.
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"John 3:18 in that verse he that believes not is condemned because he has not believed with ongoing results, what do I think these ongoing results are? The Greek perfect tense is possible to be taken in numerous different ways."
Yes in which way do you take it? What do you think these ongoing results are?
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I didn't ask you if those who have believed can or cannot stop believing.
God already says those who have believed can stop believing (Galatians 1, 3, Solomon).
I asked you do you think those who have believed can or cannot stop believing?
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In the 2 videos I linked there is no claim that "and that's it" is written down inside of the Acts 16:31 verse.
Please watch at least 1 of the 2 videos fully with an open heart sometime man!
The claim of the guy is that to be spiritually saved you must believe in Jesus and that's it, which is biblically irrefutable.
If you claim that something else than belief in Jesus is required for eternal life, that claim is false.
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Perhaps the following is not the case but it appears as if you are dishonestly fallaciously implying that "If a stated interpretation is not written down word for word in the bible (such as "Jesus is God.") then that statement is false.", which is already an obviously incorrect&irrational analysis method attempt, but doing so while simultaneously communicating interpretations yourself in multiple comments of your own makes one question even further your honesty. I wanted to address this too.

 

[Chester]

@Chester
John 11:26 “whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die”
John 3:16 “whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”
John 3:18 “he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed”
If you have not believed Jesus gave you an everlasting life which makes it so that you will never die;
=> God himself authoritatively promises that you are condemned.
________________________________________________
"John 3:18 in that verse he that believes not is condemned because he has not believed with ongoing results, what do I think these ongoing results are? The Greek perfect tense is possible to be taken in numerous different ways."
Yes in which way do you take it? What do you think these ongoing results are?
________________________________________________
I didn't ask you if those who have believed can or cannot stop believing.
God already says those who have believed can stop believing (Galatians 1, 3, Solomon).
I asked you do you think those who have believed can or cannot stop believing?
________________________________________________
In the 2 videos I linked there is no claim that "and that's it" is written down inside of the Acts 16:31 verse.
Please watch at least 1 of the 2 videos fully with an open heart sometime man!
The claim of the guy is that to be spiritually saved you must believe in Jesus and that's it, which is biblically irrefutable.
If you claim that something else than belief in Jesus is required for eternal life, that claim is false.
________________________________________________
Perhaps the following is not the case but it appears as if you are dishonestly fallaciously implying that "If a stated interpretation is not written down word for word in the bible (such as "Jesus is God.") then that statement is false.", which is already an obviously incorrect&irrational analysis method attempt, but doing so while simultaneously communicating interpretations yourself in multiple comments of your own makes one question even further your honesty. I wanted to address this too.

You wrote:
If you have not believed Jesus gave you an everlasting life which makes it so that you will never die;
=> God himself authoritatively promises that you are condemned.

As written, this statement makes the object of faith (believing): "that Jesus gave everlasting life so that . . . "
This makes the object of faith the gift that Jesus gave. The object of faith is Jesus. Both John 11:26 and John 3:16 say this clearly: "believe in him" . If a person believes in Him they are saved. Such a person may not comprehend or understand that they have the gift of eternal life. That does not mean that they do not have it. All who believe in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.

 

[Blik]

(Why believe the bible? https://christianchat.com/new-chris...duce-yourselves/why-believe-the-bible.199699/)
How to be guaranteed heaven?
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Scripture tells us exactly what we are to do to insure we have eternal life. The scriptures are few and exact.

Repent. Luk_13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Be a forgiver: Maat_6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

Faith: Matt. 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

If you can arrange it baptism is a supernatural experience that further insures eternal salvation.

 

[Blik]

(Why believe the bible? https://christianchat.com/new-chris...duce-yourselves/why-believe-the-bible.199699/)
How to be guaranteed heaven?
________________________________________________

Scripture tells us exactly what we are to do to insure we have eternal life. The scriptures are few and exact.

Repent. Luk_13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Be a forgiver: Maat_6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

Faith: Matt. 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

If you can arrange it baptism is a supernatural experience that further insures eternal salvation.