We christians claim that the holy spirit is teaching us into all truth so why then do we have contradicting interpretations of scripture?
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both people who liked your response...actually non-response...are people who agree with your views on the law...both are confused as are you
again, I posted scripture that plainly shows you are wrong when you say the Holy Spirit does not show us anything
why don't you be a big girl for a change, admit your mistake, and just move on instead of railing against anyone who tries to show you what the Bible actually states
you basically lie. I don't like saying someone is lying...but lady, you fit the bill
furthermore, I never said a thing about you not posting scripture...again, you said (with no scripture because there is none that would agree with you) the Holy Spirit does not help us
there are you words again
again, I posted scripture that plainly shows you are wrong when you say the Holy Spirit does not show us anything
why don't you be a big girl for a change, admit your mistake, and just move on instead of railing against anyone who tries to show you what the Bible actually states
you basically lie. I don't like saying someone is lying...but lady, you fit the bill
furthermore, I never said a thing about you not posting scripture...again, you said (with no scripture because there is none that would agree with you) the Holy Spirit does not help us
there are you words again
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"If you will believe in your own wonderful, imaginative world, everything will be under your control... And you will know that everyone in your world is within you, to be contacted at will. That no one can escape you; and when you rise within yourself, everyone rises with you. That is the story of scripture."
Biblical Language: Neville Goddard
26th September 1969
You may ask yourself what Blake is talking about, yet this is the language of the Bible. Biblical language evokes rather than describes. It is telling of another world, another Man and another age; for in truth, all of the places in the Bible are human.
In the Book of Revelation, John sees Jerusalem become a woman, descending out of heaven adorned like a bride for her husband. And in the 5th chapter of Micah we are told that Bethlehem is that woman out of which God comes. Listen to the words carefully:
One day you will know an imaginative world where the mountains, rivers, cities, and villages are human. Everything will be possible to you there, for when your imaginative faculties awaken, every thought is objectively real. I don’t care what it is, your every imaginal act will instantly become an objective fact. This we are told throughout the Old Testament, but its language evokes and man finds it difficult to understand.
In the 14th chapter of Jeremiah you will find these words:
Biblical Language: Neville Goddard
26th September 1969
“All are Men in Eternity. Rivers, Mountains, Cities, Villages,
All are Human, and when You enter into Their Bosoms,
You walk In Heavens and Earths;
Just as in Your own Bosom You bear Your Heaven and Earth,
and all that You behold, though it appears Without, it is Within,
In Your Imagination of which this World of Mortality is but a Shadow.”
(William Blake’s Jerusalem, Plate 71:17)
All are Human, and when You enter into Their Bosoms,
You walk In Heavens and Earths;
Just as in Your own Bosom You bear Your Heaven and Earth,
and all that You behold, though it appears Without, it is Within,
In Your Imagination of which this World of Mortality is but a Shadow.”
(William Blake’s Jerusalem, Plate 71:17)
You may ask yourself what Blake is talking about, yet this is the language of the Bible. Biblical language evokes rather than describes. It is telling of another world, another Man and another age; for in truth, all of the places in the Bible are human.
In the Book of Revelation, John sees Jerusalem become a woman, descending out of heaven adorned like a bride for her husband. And in the 5th chapter of Micah we are told that Bethlehem is that woman out of which God comes. Listen to the words carefully:
“You, O Bethlehem, are so little to be among the thousands of Judah, yet from you will come forth for me, one who is to rule in Israel, whose origin is from of old, from ancient times. Therefore, he will give them up until that time when she who is in travail has brought forth.”
Then we read in the 63rd [Chapter] of Isaiah,“O Lord, thou art our Father, our Redeemer from of old is thy name.”
Here we see the Ancient of Days as our Father and Redeemer and, like Bethlehem, we are all in travail, redeeming everything and bringing forth the Father of all life as our very self!One day you will know an imaginative world where the mountains, rivers, cities, and villages are human. Everything will be possible to you there, for when your imaginative faculties awaken, every thought is objectively real. I don’t care what it is, your every imaginal act will instantly become an objective fact. This we are told throughout the Old Testament, but its language evokes and man finds it difficult to understand.
In the 14th chapter of Jeremiah you will find these words:
“Thou, Lord are in the midst of us. We are called by thy name; leave us not.”
The Lord’s name is “I am.” How could anyone exist and have the name “I am” taken from him? If you couldn’t say “I am” you would cease to be. You could suffer from total amnesia and not know where you are, who you are, or what you are; but, because God remains faithful to his pledge, you can’t stop knowing that you are. And that which is buried in your soul must come forward, and when it does, you are God. SOME PROABLY WON'T LIKE IT, OR WAKE UP.-
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Some of us are brats. I have to confess and repent daily to God when I feel like I’m being a brat. An impatient brat. I’m grateful for my daily humbling. I’m always brought back to a place of gratitude, I’m so grateful for His mercy and guidance lovingly pointing me in the right direction always, in all ways. Even when I kick scream and shout about things not happening fast enough, I am reminded that it’s on HIS time.
Lord please give me strength and courage and faith in the times that I am weak and impatient. I hate being a brat
Lord please give me strength and courage and faith in the times that I am weak and impatient. I hate being a brat
Whatever we do, we should avoid anti-intellectualism. We should be able to come to the same conclusion with all three methods: logos, pathos, and ethos (appealing to logic, appealing to feelings, appealing to credibility/authority). There's no need to execute Galileo.
We're actually not all that different.
Here's an example. You grow up with siblings. You squabble, fight, and bicker about everything. You proclaim, "My siblings and I are nothing alike!". It isn't until you start to experience the outside world that you realize that there are common sensibilities that you and your siblings share that you weren't aware of. "I thought everyone does that?" There are unspoken Christian sensibilities of fairness, compassion, and generosity that aren't actually found in all other religions and cultures. Hold onto this!
I see nothing wrong with the interpretation that scripture means different things to different people at different times in their lives. Scripture is like a lattice that aids in the growth of our faith. We might take different passages in a different light at points in our lives as it pertains to our individual missions. The law is written in our heart and mind, and there is no reason to believe that this necessarily means all rules apply to all people in the same way. It is individualized and very personal.
Like cells in the body that eventually mature and specialize, the way that each type of cell is required to interact within its conditions differs. We are the body of Christ.
We're actually not all that different.
Here's an example. You grow up with siblings. You squabble, fight, and bicker about everything. You proclaim, "My siblings and I are nothing alike!". It isn't until you start to experience the outside world that you realize that there are common sensibilities that you and your siblings share that you weren't aware of. "I thought everyone does that?" There are unspoken Christian sensibilities of fairness, compassion, and generosity that aren't actually found in all other religions and cultures. Hold onto this!
I see nothing wrong with the interpretation that scripture means different things to different people at different times in their lives. Scripture is like a lattice that aids in the growth of our faith. We might take different passages in a different light at points in our lives as it pertains to our individual missions. The law is written in our heart and mind, and there is no reason to believe that this necessarily means all rules apply to all people in the same way. It is individualized and very personal.
Like cells in the body that eventually mature and specialize, the way that each type of cell is required to interact within its conditions differs. We are the body of Christ.
“Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”
John 6:29
If we could meet there and learn his doctrine it would cause this which Jesus prayed for
“Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”
John 17:20-21 KJV
when he is saying he’s the one God sent it’s because the Bible tells of a man who would come and be born of a virgin and be filled with Gods spirit and he would speak by the spirit Gods true jidgements for all the world.and would after he spoke then die for the sins of the world
He’s saying “ I’m that guy you heard about from the law prophets “
I think there’s a lot of reasons we disagree and believe dofferent thknfs but mostly we aren’t going to the one God sent to get our doctrine we’re trying to pull it out of short letters addressing particular issues.
if the world would believe that Christ is the one to believe we could be. Roughy into order and unity in faith
“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Romans 10:17 KJV
the Holy Spirit teaching us will always begin and end in Christs doctrine and see it throughout the epistles and will never part ways with what he said but always bring to remembrance his word
John 6:29
If we could meet there and learn his doctrine it would cause this which Jesus prayed for
“Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.”
John 17:20-21 KJV
when he is saying he’s the one God sent it’s because the Bible tells of a man who would come and be born of a virgin and be filled with Gods spirit and he would speak by the spirit Gods true jidgements for all the world.and would after he spoke then die for the sins of the world
He’s saying “ I’m that guy you heard about from the law prophets “
I think there’s a lot of reasons we disagree and believe dofferent thknfs but mostly we aren’t going to the one God sent to get our doctrine we’re trying to pull it out of short letters addressing particular issues.
if the world would believe that Christ is the one to believe we could be. Roughy into order and unity in faith
“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
Romans 10:17 KJV
the Holy Spirit teaching us will always begin and end in Christs doctrine and see it throughout the epistles and will never part ways with what he said but always bring to remembrance his word
Well, long story short, a new convert will go to church to worship & learn, then other "christians" there will point them to their favorite books, TV preachers, send them to conferences to hear rich & popular people give their 2 cents(overrated) for a huge check, instead of discipling them themselves because they can't because others did to them the same thing. (takes a breath)
Because there's nothing new under the sun, the traditions of the elders are still the things taught in the modern church today as a whole.
Because there's nothing new under the sun, the traditions of the elders are still the things taught in the modern church today as a whole.
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The same reason the Pharisees couldn't see Jesus for who he was They had their Men's Traditions and it impeeded their ability to see Jesus for who he was so he called unlearned babes to follow him. In these End Times God has a bunch of things that were locked up until the very end (as He told Daniel it would be). And now that God wants to show us these NEW THINGS, we are doing the exact same thing the Pharisees did, we are allowing MEN'S TRADITIONS to impede our learning, those traditions in most cases were just guesses since God kept it sealed up in many cases to the very end, thus we hinder Gid with OUR IDEAS or other men's ideas.
If I have heard it one time I have heard it a million times, the 144,000 are SUPER PREACHERS, and the bible never says anything even close to that. The 144,000 is a CODE just like the WOMAN is in Rev. 12 fr ALL Israel who repent. Where would they flee at in the book of Revelation timeline? Right after the Seals (which do nothing but bring the Judgments in Rev. 8 when the 7th Seal is finally taken off).
So, most people understand the Gospels pretty well, but a lot of people not called unto Prophecy try to interpret it. They saw some man who put out something 30-50 years ago and it "SOUNDED LIKE IT FIT" you know the RCC Beast or who see the as Pope being the False Prophet or the Islamic Anti-Christ. Neither fits, both are head fakes by Satan, but we have dozens on here down those Rabbitt holes, LOL. I can prove vi scriptures that the Anti-Christ has to be born in Greece, not because I am special, but because 5 or so years ago I heard the Holy Spirt chastise or correct me when I wrote a blog that Stated Babylon was not Rome (as I had written). The Holy Spirit was like LOOK at what John SAW in the vision. Rev. 17:18 said John SAW..............So I looked back at what he actually SAW, and it was only a four verse vision (Rev. 17:3-6). And what he saw was a Harlot riding a Beast or False Religion and False Gov. co-mingled. Not Rome, but a Dark Kingdom which Satan rules over the whole earth.
The reason I got this answer? Because about a week before I prayed your exact point, God, why is the Church som confused, why do we have 100 understandings of what Babylon is, what the Harlot is, what the 144,000 are, etc. and the Holy Spirit was like "Ron, you guys already know it all" So, God meant MEN'S TRADITIONS were blocking Him from being able to give us all thee NEW THINGS He wanted to give us because we had ROADBLOCKS UP, we ready had all the answers. So, I retrained myself to ALWAYS QUESTION those old supposed FACTS to see if they actually fit.
Who on here really, REALLY, REALLY thinks that in Daniel 12 the Temple gets DEFILED when an already DEFILED meat sacrifice is taken away? How can anyone believe that Jesus (Man in Linen) and Gabriel would come out of their mouths with that? At the 1290 he will TAKE AWAY THE SACRIFICE and thus defile the Temple with the AoD graven image !!
Psstt, the only way that Temple can be defiled is it has o be CLEANSED FIRST !! If met sacrifices are being offered then it's DEFILED,\. But if the Jews repent (4-5 million do, so says Zechariah 13:8-9) and start worshiping THEIR God in the Temple, one Jesus Christ, and all of the sudden and arrogant High Priest (False Prophet) forbids Jesus Worship in theTemple, that would be a SACRIFICE which had Cleansed the Temple, as Zechariah 13:1-5 says happens. Thus when taken away, the AoD then DEFILES the temple. It's common sense Jesus was ever talking about that which he HATES. A Meat Sacrifice being offered unto Gid right now would be an ABOMINATION in and of itself !! That would MOCK Jesus Christ's death for our sins !! Daniel 12 was always about Jesus being taken away. Not a stupid, profane meat sacrifice.
God is giving these understanding unto us, but only if we see, teach me Lord, those things which I don't understand. 9f we stand before God and think we know it all, we are in effect blocking His Holy Spirit from teaching us these end-time things He desires to teach us. We have to learn to listen to God over MEN OF OLDS WAYS.
If I have heard it one time I have heard it a million times, the 144,000 are SUPER PREACHERS, and the bible never says anything even close to that. The 144,000 is a CODE just like the WOMAN is in Rev. 12 fr ALL Israel who repent. Where would they flee at in the book of Revelation timeline? Right after the Seals (which do nothing but bring the Judgments in Rev. 8 when the 7th Seal is finally taken off).
So, most people understand the Gospels pretty well, but a lot of people not called unto Prophecy try to interpret it. They saw some man who put out something 30-50 years ago and it "SOUNDED LIKE IT FIT" you know the RCC Beast or who see the as Pope being the False Prophet or the Islamic Anti-Christ. Neither fits, both are head fakes by Satan, but we have dozens on here down those Rabbitt holes, LOL. I can prove vi scriptures that the Anti-Christ has to be born in Greece, not because I am special, but because 5 or so years ago I heard the Holy Spirt chastise or correct me when I wrote a blog that Stated Babylon was not Rome (as I had written). The Holy Spirit was like LOOK at what John SAW in the vision. Rev. 17:18 said John SAW..............So I looked back at what he actually SAW, and it was only a four verse vision (Rev. 17:3-6). And what he saw was a Harlot riding a Beast or False Religion and False Gov. co-mingled. Not Rome, but a Dark Kingdom which Satan rules over the whole earth.
The reason I got this answer? Because about a week before I prayed your exact point, God, why is the Church som confused, why do we have 100 understandings of what Babylon is, what the Harlot is, what the 144,000 are, etc. and the Holy Spirit was like "Ron, you guys already know it all" So, God meant MEN'S TRADITIONS were blocking Him from being able to give us all thee NEW THINGS He wanted to give us because we had ROADBLOCKS UP, we ready had all the answers. So, I retrained myself to ALWAYS QUESTION those old supposed FACTS to see if they actually fit.
Who on here really, REALLY, REALLY thinks that in Daniel 12 the Temple gets DEFILED when an already DEFILED meat sacrifice is taken away? How can anyone believe that Jesus (Man in Linen) and Gabriel would come out of their mouths with that? At the 1290 he will TAKE AWAY THE SACRIFICE and thus defile the Temple with the AoD graven image !!
Psstt, the only way that Temple can be defiled is it has o be CLEANSED FIRST !! If met sacrifices are being offered then it's DEFILED,\. But if the Jews repent (4-5 million do, so says Zechariah 13:8-9) and start worshiping THEIR God in the Temple, one Jesus Christ, and all of the sudden and arrogant High Priest (False Prophet) forbids Jesus Worship in theTemple, that would be a SACRIFICE which had Cleansed the Temple, as Zechariah 13:1-5 says happens. Thus when taken away, the AoD then DEFILES the temple. It's common sense Jesus was ever talking about that which he HATES. A Meat Sacrifice being offered unto Gid right now would be an ABOMINATION in and of itself !! That would MOCK Jesus Christ's death for our sins !! Daniel 12 was always about Jesus being taken away. Not a stupid, profane meat sacrifice.
God is giving these understanding unto us, but only if we see, teach me Lord, those things which I don't understand. 9f we stand before God and think we know it all, we are in effect blocking His Holy Spirit from teaching us these end-time things He desires to teach us. We have to learn to listen to God over MEN OF OLDS WAYS.
Precious friend, Most have not gotten past the Confusion of the milk of water
baptism! How then are they going to be "called to interpret prophecy {meat}"?
Have Most even Considered 12 baptisms Rightly Divided From ONE Baptism?
Have Most even Considered the Confusion of gospels Answered, By God, In:
God's Approval/TWO Different Gospels
Or, Have Most even Considered the Confusion of a false "combo" of THESE?:
Distinctions In God's Two Different Programs: Prophecy vs Mystery!
Is MUCH "milk Digestion required first," Before "being called to meat interpretations"?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
God's Simple Will!
baptism! How then are they going to be "called to interpret prophecy {meat}"?
Have Most even Considered 12 baptisms Rightly Divided From ONE Baptism?
Have Most even Considered the Confusion of gospels Answered, By God, In:
God's Approval/TWO Different Gospels
Or, Have Most even Considered the Confusion of a false "combo" of THESE?:
Distinctions In God's Two Different Programs: Prophecy vs Mystery!
Is MUCH "milk Digestion required first," Before "being called to meat interpretations"?
Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
God's Simple Will!