Should we support police ?

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SophieT said:
seems it does not matter which one of your posts I read, they are indicate a high level of ignorance regarding society in general and police in particular
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IN what way ?

"what do you think a detective is?"

A person who investigates crimes, usually a police officer, sometimes not, but i never said to get rid of police.

why don't you list what you think are unjust laws. have you ever been arrested? you sound like you have a personal grudge against police
I've never been arrested by police, but i'm sure it will happen in the future (the bible says so). A good example IMO of an unjust law is loitering. although i can see why some people would justify this, it really serves no purpose but to give the police an excuse to detain someone.

And i don't have a grudge with police, i have a grudge with them upholding an unjust system.
 
SophieT said:
I'm really curious. are you still in high school?
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nOpE i'm NoT iN HIGHSCHOOLL ANYMOOre Idroped oUt

"I noticed you say you do not know if you are saved or not...so what is all this concern over 'Christians'? do you know what Christianity is?"

A christian IMO is basically someone who believes in God, of course there is more to it then that but i'm not gonna get into it that much.
 
RaceBoy said:
I never said to defund or abolish the police. Please don't put words into my mouth. I'm not painting the police as evil, I'm simply pointing to the fact that they work for the state and not us, so they can't do but so much that the state allows them to do.
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There is evil in the world. Evil exists on every continent, in every country, every state, every city, every town, every village, every hamlet, every community.

Police on the local, state, federal, and international level are in place to enforce laws that are designed to keep good order. Lawlessness is the problem, not law enforcement.
 
DeanM said:
You dont need me for that. Your doing a good job of it yourself.
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By suggesting that cops don't do what is right all the time ? By suggesting we shouldn't support people who uphold an evil system that's gonna kill and imprison Christians in the future ?
 
RaceBoy said:
By suggesting that cops don't do what is right all the time ? By suggesting we shouldn't support people who uphold an evil system that's gonna kill and imprison Christians in the future ?
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Last comment before I unwatch this thread. When a cop stops you. Dont run and dont fight. Good luck with your endeavors.
 
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JerryInBoston said:
There is evil in the world. Evil exists on every continent, in every country, every state, every city, every town, every village, every hamlet, every community.

Police on the local, state, federal, and international level are in place to enforce laws that are designed to keep good order. Lawlessness is the problem, not law enforcement.
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I understand that. I'm just saying that law enforcement (if they were to follow the bibles way of morality) should be restraining evil (witchcraft, psychics, Sexual immorality such as strip clubs, rape, murders, stealing, etc) and not bothering people for petty offenses such as window tint violations.
 
RaceBoy said:
IN what way ?

"what do you think a detective is?"

A person who investigates crimes, usually a police officer, sometimes not, but i never said to get rid of police.

why don't you list what you think are unjust laws. have you ever been arrested? you sound like you have a personal grudge against police
I've never been arrested by police, but i'm sure it will happen in the future (the bible says so). A good example IMO of an unjust law is loitering. although i can see why some people would justify this, it really serves no purpose but to give the police an excuse to detain someone.

And i don't have a grudge with police, i have a grudge with them upholding an unjust system.
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If you vote, it's your legislators on both the state and federal level that create statutory laws, such as law against loitering. We entrust law enforcement officers with enforcing the laws that are passed. Unjust laws are determined invalid by courts of law. That's how it goes in our republic: we are a nation of laws.
 
SophieT said:
no it's not example of police at all

it's an example of the Supreme Court ruling years back. Roe vs Wade. look it up

please try to get an education before slinging accusations in every direction. you don't know what you are talking about
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Of course the Courts rule in favor of evil, once again proving that the police don't work for us.
 
JerryInBoston said:
If you vote, it's your legislators on both the state and federal level that create statutory laws, such as law against loitering. We entrust law enforcement officers with enforcing the laws that are passed. Unjust laws are determined invalid by courts of law. That's how it goes in our republic: we are a nation of laws.
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I understand that mate, and i know there's nothing we can do as our real home is in heaven. I'm just saying that the police can be on our side if things were different, but instead they work for the state, which allows gay people to have a holiday.
 
RaceBoy said:
I understand that. I'm just saying that law enforcement (if they were to follow the bibles way of morality) should be restraining evil (witchcraft, psychics, Sexual immorality such as strip clubs, rape, murders, stealing, etc) and not bothering people for petty offenses such as window tint violations.
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Good example. Windows should not be tinted beyond what the law allows. Law enforcement officers have been given tools to test whether windows are tinted beyond what the law allows. If you think the law is unjust, take it to court.
 
RaceBoy said:
I understand that mate, and i know there's nothing we can do as our real home is in heaven. I'm just saying that the police can be on our side if things were different, but instead they work for the state, which allows gay people to have a holiday.
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The police are on the side of law and order. You seem to be advocating that the police should turn a blind eye to lawbreakers.
 
Most of y'all seem to be misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. I'am not saying to get rid of the police, I'm not saying to defund the police, I'm simply saying the police don't serve us. They don't restrain all evil like i would want to, they mostly enforce laws that bother people ok. I don't hate the police, i hate what they are doing with their God given power and authority.
 
regarding Chicago
RaceBoy said:
Cuz this surely has nothing to do with BLM.
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now THAT'S a load of hogwash........
because of BLM it has only gotten WORSE this past year.
The "defund the police" campaign is pushed in and around Chicago and you now have officers with the attitude of "you don't want us around to do our job....... you're on your own"
 
JerryInBoston said:
Good example. Windows should not be tinted beyond what the law allows. Law enforcement officers have been given tools to test whether windows are tinted beyond what the law allows. If you think the law is unjust, take it to court.
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Yes we as Christians have to obey the law (if its just and doesn't contradict what God says), i get that, but you seem to be using the law as if it must be justified. The law is not always right.
 
Godsgirl83 said:
regarding Chicago

now THAT'S a load of hogwash........
because of BLM it has only gotten WORSE this past year.
The "defund the police" campaign is pushed in and around Chicago and you now have officers with the attitude of "you don't want us around to do our job....... you're on your own"
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You've completely ignored my previous statements in that sentence.
 
RaceBoy said:
Yes we as Christians have to obey the law (if its just and doesn't contradict what God says), i get that, but you seem to be using the law as if it must be justified. The law is not always right.
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Courts are where laws are determined valid or not.
 
JerryInBoston said:
The police are on the side of law and order. You seem to be advocating that the police should turn a blind eye to lawbreakers.
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No i'm advocating for police to focus on lawbreakers and evil people, not people who just want to modify their cars that they lawfully payed for (California).


Or people who cleaning around their own property.
 
At this point guys, i'm done with this conversation. Y'all clearly don't understand my viewpoints so there's no point in arguing, Good bye.
 
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