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JaumeJ

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We do not know the actual name of our Maker: this is to be revealed come His return.

We have dozens of titles for Him. A good place to begin may be Isaiah 9?6, however there are many more.
 

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I AM THAT I AM...


We have to be careful when we use the word I am because we are quoting the name of God and we are His temple. When we think this way we won't dare disrespect others who are also the image of God.
 

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7» What's The Difference Between Immortality And Eternal life?

Immortality has to do with a death-proof body. In other words; as long as a
body has immortality it will neither age nor die of natural causes.

The negative side of immortality is it's impermanence. In other words:
immortality isn't indelible, i.e. it can be washed out; so to speak. For
example: Adam's body was created with immortality, but lost it as a result of
him eating a certain fruit known to be off limits for human consumption.

Whereas immortality has to do with the constitution of a being's body,
eternal life has to do with the constitution of one's being, i.e. the very core
of their existence.

I am a man, ergo: the core of my being is human nature; whereas God is a
deity, so the core of His being is divine nature. The advantages of divine
nature become very apparent when it's juxtaposed with human nature.

When I was a youngster; it occurred to me that If my propensities and
proclivities were like God's, then it would be very easy to get into Heaven,
and very easy to stay in Heaven without ever getting evicted because doing
what's right would come just as natural to me as it does for God, i.e. God
has no difficulty getting along with God; so if I had divine nature instead of
human nature, then I too would have no difficulty getting along with God.

So it's easily seen that whereas immortality is beneficial; eternal life is far
more desirable because of its potential for making ordinary people super
holy.
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The first time the word grace was used in the Bible?

Genesis 6:5-8
5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

Notice Noah found grace.
How did he find grace?
Was it a gift or was it merited?
If we say it was merited then it's not a gift?

However what was the first act of grace in the Bible?

Is it not the following

Genesis 3:21
21 Also for Adam and his wife the Lord God made tunics of skin, and clothed them.

They sinned and he could have killed them straight away.

Yet praise God.

Genesis 3:15
15 And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.”

The grace of God towards mankind already in place?
 

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1» Was Jesus a Christian?_
Hi.. no offense but this one made me laugh. Was Jesus Christ like or did Jesus believe in Jesus. "Christian" was first used to make fun of believers. Yeshua/Jesus left heaven.. became His creation. He went back.. He is who He has always been. He is the the great I am. There is nothing made that was not made by Him. He and the Father are one. All will bow to Him.
 

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8» Name The Special Sabbaths.

First and last days of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Ex 12:16, Lev 23:5-8)

Feast of Trumpets (Lev 23:23-25)

Yom Kippur (Lev 16:29-34)
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Name The Special Sabbaths.

Amending post No.26 to include omitted special sabbaths.

First and final day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Ex 12:16, Lev 23:5-8)

Feast of Trumpets (Lev 23:23-25)

Yom Kippur (Lev 16:30-31)

First and final day of the Feast of Tabernacles (Lev 16:34-36, Lev 16:39)
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Webers.Home

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9» Whence Did Mary Get The Y Chromosome For Baby Jesus?

In the beginning, God constructed a fully functioning woman from some
material taken from a man's body. Well; if God could construct an entire
woman with material taken from a man's body, then it shouldn't be too hard
for him to construct a teensy little male chromosome with material taken
from a woman's body.

Now; it was essential that Jesus' Y chromosome not be created ex nihilo
because he had to be Man-- not just human but Man; as he spoke of himself
on numerous occasions throughout the gospel narratives. Were Jesus' Y
chromosome to be derived from some other source than Adam's biological
posterity, then he might be human but he wouldn't be Man as Man is defined
in the book of Genesis.
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1» Was Jesus a Christian?

Jesus was a Jew thru and thru who believed and practiced the Old
Testament in compliance with the Prophets and the various covenants; most
especially the one that Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus,
Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. (Gal 4:4)
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Yet his worst enemies and critics were the teachers and interpreters of the Law. That included Saul renamed Paul.
 

Webers.Home

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10» How was Joseph related to baby Jesus?

Joseph was instructed to name Mary's baby.

Matt 1:21 . . She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name
Jesus

Joseph complied.

Matt 1:25 . . And he gave him the name Jesus.

So Christ went in the books as Joseph's son because that's how it worked in
those days when a man stood with a woman to name her child. (cf. Luke
1:59 and Luke 2:21)

From that day on; Joseph was legally bound to Jesus as his father. (Matt
13:55, Luke 2:27, Luke 2:41, and Luke 2:48)

NOTE: Adoption is very advantageous for children because it gives them not
only a legal right to their adoptive father's name and a position in his
genealogy, but also inheritance rights equal to biological children. This is
very important in matters related to not only the man's estate, but also his
status. In other words: it's possible for a child to circumvent blood, and go
from pauper to prince by just the stroke of a pen.
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Webers.Home

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11» Was The Forbidden Fruit Toxic?

Eve was first to taste the forbidden fruit; and when she did, nothing
happened. She didn't get sick, and she went right on in the buff as before
without the slightest guilt feelings about frontal nudity. It wasn't till Adam
tasted the fruit that she underwent a change in her feelings about decency.
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12» Wasn't Adam supposed to die right away? (Gen 2:16-17)

Yes; absolutely; however, the death that came upon him wasn't what might
be expected.

Adam was created with immortality (Gen 1:26-27). The consequence for
eating the forbidden fruit was the loss of his immortality. In other words;
Adam's death came upon him as a walking death in the form of mortality. As
a result, mortality became a pandemic malady: we all have it; and the only
known natural remedy for mortality is the tree of life; to which no one yet has
been allowed access.
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Webers.Home

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13» Why was Mary chosen for Jesus' mother?

It was due to a combination of genetics and the moment.

1» Mary was a Jew biologically related to David (Rom 1:3) and

2» Joseph was a Jew biologically related to David (Matt 1:20) and

3» Their confluence in history. (Gal 4:4)
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Webers.Home

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14» Why Is Joseph's Genealogy Given In The New Testament?

This matter is of little importance to the average Gentile, but very important
to pious Jews.

God appointed Jesus to take David's throne (Luke 1:32). However:
successors have to meet two prerequisites. They have to be directly related
to David, and they have to be directly related to David's son Solomon. These
prerequisites are non negotiable.
(2Sam 7:12-16, 1Kings 1:13, 1Chron22:9-10, and Ps 89:3-4)

Jesus was directly related to David via his mother; but neither she nor he
were directly related to Solomon. However; Joseph was directly related to
both David and Solomon.

Now whereas successors to the throne have to be David's biological
posterity, they don't have to be Solomon's biological posterity; they only
have to be one of his direct descendants; which made it possible for Joseph
to pass the throne on to Jesus by means of adoption: a process that gives
children just as much standing in the home as biological children, including
the right to inherit, the right to their adoptive father's name, and the right to
be placed in his genealogy.

This is very important in matters related to not only the man's estate, but
also his status. In other words: it's possible for a child to circumvent blood,
and go from pauper to prince by just the stroke of a pen.

Jacob set the precedent for this procedure when he adopted his two
grandsons Manasseh and Ephraim in the book of Genesis; effectively
endowing Joseph's two boys with the status of tribal heads equal in rank and
privilege to Jacob's original twelve sons. So then, what Joseph did with Jesus
was neither innovative nor unheard of.
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Webers.Home

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15» What Is A Savior?

Luke 2:8-11 . . And in the same region there were some shepherds staying
out in the fields, and keeping watch over their flock by night. And an angel
of The Lord suddenly stood before them, and the glory of The Lord shone
around them; and they were terribly frightened.

. . . And the angel said to them: Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you
good news of a great joy which shall be for all the people; for today in the
city of David there has been born for you a savior, who is Christ the Lord.

The Greek word for "savior" in that verse is soter (so-tare') which means: a
rescuer.

Rescuers typically help people who are in grave distress and/or imminent
danger of death and/or serious injury, and helpless to do anything about it;
e.g. Red Cross, Firemen, Emergency Medical teams, snow patrols, mountain
units, and the Coast Guard and National Guard.

Wouldn't it be awful if those agencies refused to assist desperate folk until
they first proved themselves deserving? Well lucky for everyone that those
agencies work on the basis of need rather than merit or many of us would
end up thrown back to the wolves.

I think quite a few people are under the impression that Christ is some sort
of probation officer; viz: if people "endure to the end" as they say; then he
grants them a clearance for heaven. But God forbid they should fail to
satisfy the conditions of their probation, because then they're out the door.

Probation can be likened to a sword of Damocles hanging over people's
heads by a slender thread easily broken by conduct unbecoming. How dare
the angel of Luke 2:8-11 describe his announcement as "good news of great
joy" if probation were actually what's meant by sozo instead of rescue.

On the other hand; if Christ is in the business of rescuing people from the
wrath of God in accord with the humane principles underlying normal
emergency services; then yes, I fully agree with the angel that the birth of
Christ is something to get excited about.
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Webers.Home

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16» Define An Angel

The Hebrew word for "angel" is mal'ak (mal-awk') which doesn't especially
indicate a celestial being. The word is a bit ambiguous and essentially means
a dispatched deputy or a messenger; viz: someone who speaks for, and/or
represents, another; i.e. an ambassador and/or someone selected by God
for a special purpose.

Priests are mal'ak. (Malachi 2:7)

The New Testament word translated "angel" is aggelos (ang'-el-os) which
means pretty much the same thing as mal'ak. For example john the Baptist
is labeled an aggelos. (Mal 3:1 and Matt 11:10) and his assistants too are
labeled aggelos (Luke 7:24)

The heads of the seven churches to whom John penned letters in Revelation
are labeled aggelos.

All of which tells me we should never assume that the word "angel" in the
Bible eo ipso indicates a heavenly being. It could just as easily be a human
agent on a divine mission, e.g. Heb 13:2.
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17» What Is Original Sin?

The so-called original sin was committed by the first man (Adam) relative to
a certain forbidden fruit. (Gen 2:8-17 and Gen 3:6)

The last ten verses of the letter to Romans explains that Adam's posterity
are all reckoned implicated in his act.

Rom 5:13 . . Just as sin entered the world through one man, and death
through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned

"all sinned" is grammatically past tense; indicating that the entirety of
Adam's posterity, from first to last, regardless of age, race, gender, and/or
religious preference, are implicated in eating the forbidden fruit. That of
course includes the first women Eve because she was constructed with
material taken from Adam's body.

Thus so everybody is doomed to die not for something they did to deserve
death, but for what he did.

Rom 5:18 . .The result of one trespass was condemnation for all

The fairness of this situation is very difficult to accept, nevertheless it is
what it is, and futile to complain.

The good news is that the original sin isn't a sin unto Hell, rather, it's a sin
unto death. In other words; the proper punishment for the original sin is
simply everyone's demise, i.e. mortality.
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17» What Is Original Sin?

The so-called original sin was committed by the first man (Adam
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Actually not.

The first iniquity, would be found in the first to have iniquity, and that would be Lucifer, before he was cast out of heaven.

And regarding Adam........ "Sin" is define as sin, by the Law. And in the Garden, there was no law as "the law came by Moses".

So, "where there is no law, there is no sin"....(transgression)

However, there was disobedience, which was Adam and Eve's iniquity.
This is found in a person, before they commit the deed.
It works like this...
Jesus said. "if you lust to fornicate in your head, then its as if you have done it with your body".

So, as soon as Eve , then Adam DECIDED to bite the fruit, the iniquity had been established in them, by that choice.
The eating, was just the deed that followed their free will choice to disobey.
Disobedience happens as a choice before it is performed by the body.
 

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"Sin" is define as sin, by the Law. And in the Garden, there was no law as
"the law came by Moses".

Evil behavior was categorized as "sin" prior to the introduction of the
covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God per Exodus, Leviticus,
Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

Rom 5:13 . . For until the law sin was in the world:

For example:

Gen 18:20 . . Sodom and Gomorrah . . their sin is very grievous

A common Greek word for "sin" throughout the New Testament is hamartia
(ham-ar-tee'-ah). It's utilized by Paul several times in Romans 5:12-21 in
his treatise regarding the forbidden fruit incident; which is an incident that
took place quite a few years prior to Moses' covenant.
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Evil behavior was categorized as "sin" prior to the introduction of the
covenant
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Not at all.

Its NOW we find.... when talking about , or teaching about "Adam" : is where what happened before the Law, is now wrongly defined as "sin".

This wrongly dividing of the word, is basically someone's inability to read the NT, or its the fact that their commentary that is their real bible, taught them some nonsense that they are now teaching, pretending that they wrote it.
Ever met one of these types?

Now, look at this verse........"just as sin entered the world through one man""

Notice. = The fake scholar reinvents this verse as...>"adam the sinner"........
But the verse says that "sin entered the world".......it says nothing about Adam being a sinner.
Did you notice that? I hope so, because few notice this, and fewer can understand it.


Here is something else. "Sin enter the world"...... yet, Satan was the first one who had iniquity in Him, and he was in the world before Adam was created.
So, something that is Satan's NATURE, came into the world, through Adam's disobedience.
See that???

So.....What is that?
That is "evil".
And what is evil? Evil is rebellion that plays out as disobedience that is the "sin that entered the world", through Adam.
So, that is what came into the world, from the Father of Evil, through Adam's disobedience, .... and later, Moses gave it a lot of different titles........."Under the Law".

For example,

1. Murder
2. Idolatry
3. Lying

See how the commandments and the Law, gave TITLES to various acts of disobedience?
So, before the Law and commandments given by MOSES titled all these evil acts, as "sin", you had Adam and Eve committing the disobedience that allowed the Evil that is Satan to become...."entered the world".

That's interesting isnt it.. ? How EVIL entered the world through Adam, , that was and still is Satan's nature.
Satan's nature is Lust and Rebellion....And Adam committed rebellion that released through Adam..."sin entered the world".
Yet, "where there is no law there is no Transgression"......so, you have EVIL released, that was later titled as many kinds, once Moses Law and the 10 Commandment came into play to dictate all the Titles, as "sin".

So, because "sin" isn't defined as sin, until the Law/Commandments TITLES each particular evil act of disobedience, which happens based on the Law of Moses and the 10 Commandments arriving......., its not accurate theology to say that Adam "sinned", but it is correct to read the verse correctly that says...>"sin entered the world through Adam"