Getting God's Strength

[justpassinthrough]

I'm referring to Scripture. The Lord corrects His people, which is evidence we belong to Him.

Of course the Lord corrects His people, so they don’t end up lost.


Those who reject His commandments and teachings are the ones in danger.



By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3

• His commandments are not burdensome.

Remember, His commandments are about love. They are not burdensome.



JLB

 

[justpassinthrough]

To teach that the born again can lose Christ...... who is in them, is the devil's doctrine.

You shouldn’t Blaspheme our Lord, brother.


His teaching is very plain, and clear.


“I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit He prunes, that it may bear more fruit. John 15:1-2

• Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away;

If a person is removed from Christ, they no longer have Christ.


He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
1 John 5:12


If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. John 15:6


If we do not remain “in Him” He plainly says we will be cast into the fire and burned.



Here is how we are instructed to remain, “in Christ”. —


Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 3:24



Paul says it this way —


Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 1 Timothy 4:1


CALVINISM AND OSAS doctrine which teaches people to live self gratifying lives in rebellion against God, is a doctrine of demons.



You have been warned.






JPT

 

[Kidron]

Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away;

You have been warned.

Save your warnings. You're going to need them for yourself.

Also, you are teaching a symbolic verse, because you dont realize its symbolic.
See, all heresy, is based on misrepresenting a doctrine by twisting verses.
Often this is a person who can't discern the word of God, at all, and that is why they teach a symbolic verse, as if its a Literal verse....as you just did.

 

[HisKid]

Of course the Lord corrects His people, so they don’t end up lost.


Those who reject His commandments and teachings are the ones in danger.



By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:2-3

• His commandments are not burdensome.

Remember, His commandments are about love. They are not burdensome.



JLB

His people will not and cannot end up lost.

I'm am not burdened by loving people. It brings me joy. Why doesn't it bring you joy? You seem very burdened by the command of the Lord as you have repeated it ad-nauseum.

Why can't you just love people and be done with it? You keep pushing and pushing, as if you simply cannot fathom that love is the answer. Just get to it and move on.

 

[Blain]

The Living word of God.
Psalm 138:2. ...>""" for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name""""

Jesus is the Light of the World, and we the born again, who exist as...>"Translated FROM..darkness..>TO Light"...... now exist in the Kingdom of God,....as born again Children of the Light.

The reason God tells us to be in the world but not OF the world, is because even tho our bodies live down here, our SPIRIT exists in God already.
And THAT knowledge is the TRUTH .

Most believers are worried about their behavior, when they should be rejoicing that they already exist in Heaven, in Spiritual Union with God's Spirit.
When they learn to SEE THIS.... when they get the revelation of who they have become as a""" New Creation"""then everything changes. Lives become TRANSFORMED.

God is "A" Spirit..... THE Holy Spirit, and we the born again, have been spiritually united with God's Holy Spirit.
"Christ in you", and the born again "In Christ">..... This is Spiritual UNION.. "ONENESS".
Jesus said.... in John 17:23...."""I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in ONE"
= This is the real us........this is what it means to be SAVED......born again. and "Seated in Heavenly Places IN Christ".

Wow.... do you make threads very often? You honestly should your understanding is brilliant you need to be teaching

 

[justpassinthrough]

His people will not and cannot end up lost.

“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Luke 15:4-7

• Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance

You err, not knowing the scriptures.





JPT

 

[HisKid]

Wow.... do you make threads very often? You honestly should your understanding is brilliant you need to be teaching

Agree

 

[HisKid]

“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Luke 15:4-7

• Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance

You err, not knowing the scriptures.





JPT

Bu-bye

 

[Blain]

“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. Luke 15:4-7

• Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’ I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance

You err, not knowing the scriptures.





JPT

Your kidding me with this right? Do you know why Jesus spoke this way to them? He spoke to them in what they were accustomed to so they would understand better a shepherd was not uncommon and every so often a lamb or sheep will stray from the herd or escape and become lost but it is only truly lost if wolves find and devour it but if the shepherd finds it before then it is no longer lost but found and a shepherd will risk their lives for this one little sheep does that sound familiar to you? He is the great shepherd who lays his life down for the lost this isn't speaking of losing ones salvation this is speaking of those who are not in Christ

It seems to me you are in err for not understanding the scriptures not him

 

[justpassinthrough]

Your kidding me with this right? Do you know why Jesus spoke this way to them? He spoke to them in what they were accustomed to so they would understand better a shepherd was not uncommon and every so often a lamb or sheep will stray from the herd or escape and become lost but it is only truly lost if wolves find and devour it but if the shepherd finds it before then it is no longer lost but found and a shepherd will risk their lives for this one little sheep does that sound familiar to you? He is the great shepherd who lays his life down for the lost this isn't speaking of losing ones salvation this is speaking of those who are not in Christ

It seems to me you are in err for not understanding the scriptures not him

Do the lost need salvation?


Jesus was teaching His disciples how to go after a wayward brother who sins, to get them to repent. If he didn’t he would be counted as the lost; as sinners, or tax collectors.

Matthews version of this story sheds some light —

“What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish. “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. Matthew 18:12-17


Here are the steps to restoring a wayward brother —

• Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
• But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’
• And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.
• But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

JPT

 

[gb9]

Do the lost need salvation?


Jesus was teaching His disciples how to go after a wayward brother who sins, to get them to repent. If he didn’t he would be counted as the lost; as sinners, or tax collectors.

Matthews version of this story sheds some light —

“What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying? And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish. “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector. Matthew 18:12-17


Here are the steps to restoring a wayward brother —

• Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
• But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’
• And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.
• But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

JPT

and. we are back to square one-

so, if the sheep goes astray, it is still part of the flock.
if not, the shepherd would not look for them.

going astray is not the same as going to the shepherd and saying " i am leaving this flock, you are no longer my shepherd".

too bad you cannot see this...

 

[justpassinthrough]

and. we are back to square one-

so, if the sheep goes astray, it is still part of the flock.
if not, the shepherd would not look for them.

going astray is not the same as going to the shepherd and saying " i am leaving this flock, you are no longer my shepherd".

too bad you cannot see this...

Too bad you haven’t addressed the scripture itself.

• Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.

Here we see someone did indeed go after the brother who sinned and does reason with him to repent and be restored. He gained his brother back.

• But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’

Sometimes it takes more than one, to convince someone to turn away from their sin.

• And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church.

If he still refuses to turn back to God, after one, then two, then it’s time to bring in the elders of the Church to convince him.

• But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.

Then if he won’t hear the church and the leadership, and desires to continue in sin, he is too be considered a heathen, and tax collector; a sinner.


So yes, he does walk away from Christ.




Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins. James 5:19-20

• he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death

JPT

 

[Yahshua]

Christ deniers and Cross rejectors always try to prove that they keep themselves saved.

If you can keep yourself saved, then that would be because you died on the Cross.

....

Luke 9:23
23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

I dont think you qualify as Savior, but im sure you will continue to argue that Salvation is all about you doing it.

I qualify as a messenger, literally copying and pasting words from Messiah's own mouth concerning how the Almighty handles forgiveness in His kingdom. The Messiah's words.

Luke 6:46
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?