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God says it sits on pillars, immovable. I don't say that, the One who created it does.

Have you been deceived about the world-wide scamcemic of covid? No, you haven't. Well, the young minds that are enduring this abuse today will be 100% convinced it was real when they become adults. Who will convince them otherwise? Once your mind is controlled, it is very difficult to break free from it.

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I believe that the pandemic is real but that the statistics are contrived to in a way to produce the worse outcome. Not everyone who died while having Covid19 died as a result of the virus but merely had the virus at the time of death. The numbers have been manipulated. The virus has proven deadly in many cases and many cases it has proven to be mild. I believe that the government involvement is about power and control. That does not mean that the virus is not a serious thing because it obviously is, but not to the degree as reported in the media.
 

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The God I worship is capable of absolutely anything. Apparently not the God you worship.

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It does state in scripture that the earth is on pillars. It also states that God hung the earth on nothing. You have stated something that is absolutely true in that God is capable of absolutely anything, that includes making a round earth that rotates in a 24 hour cycle on its axis and revolves around the sun in a circuit that takes 365 1/4 days. Of course, He could have made a flat earth too but to me that doesn't sound as creative. In fact, it sounds lame. The thing is the shape of the earth, regardless of the form, is not integral to my belief in God or how I chose to live my life.
 

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How about some Scripture that even remotely suggests the earth is a ball spinning through space? As I've said before, NASA has not even produced one actual photo of the earth from "space". It is all CGI and they admit it. Why can't they provide a photo? lol



I just told you I DONT do well with deflection!

I would hate to think you have nothing to offer in a discussion about the word!
 

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I will state with 100% confidence that the Earth is round and that we put men on the moon. We also have the ISS and hundreds of satellites orbiting the Earth, moon, Mars and other planets. We also have sent spacecraft to the outer solar system.

I will state with 100% confidence that God exists. He exists in three persons, and He sent His son , in the form of a man, to die on a cross, to provide a way for sinners to gain eternal life.
 

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Psalm 104:5
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

1 Samuel 2
8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.

Try this website. It might be helpful. There are many others as well. Scripture absolutely teaches a geocentric flat earth. If you really want to know the truth...
https://bjorkbloggen.com/2018/10/20/list-of-bible-verses-that-show-a-flat-earth-with-a-firmament/


Not good enough!
You HAVE NO scriptural proof
 
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It does state in scripture that the earth is on pillars. It also states that God hung the earth on nothing. You have stated something that is absolutely true in that God is capable of absolutely anything, that includes making a round earth that rotates in a 24 hour cycle on its axis and revolves around the sun in a circuit that takes 365 1/4 days. Of course, He could have made a flat earth too but to me that doesn't sound as creative. In fact, it sounds lame. The thing is the shape of the earth, regardless of the form, is not integral to my belief in God or how I chose to live my life.
It doesn't sound creative? It sounds lame? Wow. So, you are using your own wisdom and the fake news to determine truth? Scripture is obviously teaching that the earth is immovable and covered by a water firmament. You believe NASA. I believe God.

Here's the thing... when God revealed to me that the earth is flat, immovable and covered by a firmament that nobody and nothing can break through, everything fell into place. Everything finally made sense. The lies the enemy tells are eventually found out. If something doesn't make sense, even though you have been taught it from childhood, it probably isn't true. Research, research, research.


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Not good enough!
You HAVE NO scriptural proof
There is a ton. I posted a link to just one website that uses SCRIPTURE as evidence. There are many similar websites.

I understand that to even imagine we have been lied to on such a huge scale is hard to swallow. But, it's happening right now as we speak with the covid scamdemic.

Use the Word of God and the evidence right before your very eyes.

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It doesn't sound creative? It sounds lame? Wow. So, you are using your own wisdom and the fake news to determine truth? Scripture is obviously teaching that the earth is immovable and covered by a water firmament. You believe NASA. I believe God.

Here's the thing... when God revealed to me that the earth is flat, immovable and covered by a firmament that nobody and nothing can break through, everything fell into place. Everything finally made sense. The lies the enemy tells are eventually found out. If something doesn't make sense, even though you have been taught it from childhood, it probably isn't true. Research, research, research.


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Actually, as yourself, I believe in God. FYI, NASA is not the only space exploration entity, many countries launch rockets, even private companies launch rockets. My research by scholarship and observation, utilizing the discernment given by the Holy Spirit has proved to my own personal satisfaction that the earth is round, rotates on its axis in a 24 hour period and revolves around the sun in a period of 365 1/4 days. How did God reveal to you that the earth is flat?
 

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There is a ton. I posted a link to just one website that uses SCRIPTURE as evidence. There are many similar websites.

I understand that to even imagine we have been lied to on such a huge scale is hard to swallow. But, it's happening right now as we speak with the covid scamdemic.

Use the Word of God and the evidence right before your very eyes.

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You my dear need to join the conspiracy forum and stay there!
You have nothing to offer regarding the word. Bye

Unless YOU say something soooooo outrageous I cannot contain
myself we will not be interacting again
 
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Actually, as yourself, I believe in God. FYI, NASA is not the only space exploration entity, many countries launch rockets, even private companies launch rockets. My research by scholarship and observation, utilizing the discernment given by the Holy Spirit has proved to my own personal satisfaction that the earth is round, rotates on its axis in a 24 hour period and revolves around the sun in a period of 365 1/4 days. How did God reveal to you that the earth is flat?
That is what the world tells you, not the Lord.

I naturally question things that don't make sense being raised in a religion that is full of lies. I questioned. He answered.

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That is what the world tells you, not the Lord.

I naturally question things that don't make sense being raised in a religion that is full of lies. I questioned. He answered.

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I have made it clear that what I believe about the shape of the earth is by my own observation and the reasoning ability given to me by God. Nobody told me this that I should believe it.
 
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I have made it clear that what I believe about the shape of the earth is by my own observation and the reasoning ability given to me by God. Nobody told me this that I should believe it.
That's not at all true. Had the heliocentric model never been introduced, nobody would have come to that conclusion by observation or reasoning.

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That's not at all true. Had the heliocentric model never been introduced, nobody would have come to that conclusion by observation or reasoning.

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The sun rising and setting was my first clue that the earth is round. The change of seasons was my first clue that the earth revolves around the sun.