I believe it to be an apt diagram of three separate entities, Father, Son, Holy Spirit comprising one God.
What “Jesus” truly means
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After reading through your comments here I would strongly suggest that you spend a large amount of time with a good bible teacher. Your theology is to be blunt heresy.
Now I am sure that you will disagree with that comment but your eternal destiny is at stake here. You have so many mistakes in your thinking that it would be better for you to just go back to the beginning and start over.
I commend your desire to know the scriptures but an errant knowledge is not a saving knowledge. Your side note "i do not believe JESUS the son is GOD" will condemn you to hell.
Jesus pre-existed His human incarnation. He is the Living Word of God.
Denying the Deity of Jesus is the number one theological offense on this site.
Dead wrong. Schizophrenia is a complex medical issue. "Hearing from God" (or "god") has nothing to do with it.
Partially wrong. I ask God questions, and sometimes He answers directly. Sometimes He guides me to answers.
Think again. God has promised to reveal Himself to those who earnestly seek Him.
Guess what? God keeps His promises.
Isaiah 45:22 + Revelation 3:20
Because of what you wrote here:
Your own words demonstrate that you aren't a Bible-believing Christian.
That doesn't mean you can't become one, but it does establish that presently you aren't one.
The diagram does not say "God is..." or "God is not..." at all.
It says
"The Father is God"
"The Son is God"
"The Holy Spirit is God"
"The Father is not the Son"
"The Father is not the Holy Spirit"
etc.
Isaiah said the Son would be called mighty God and everlasting Father...
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
?
The approval of Jesus being God and totally GOD is the dissaproval of GOD separating himself from the entity of the MESSIAH.
Why would god incarnate as entirely him within understanding that he himself is him yet identifying as a lesser being such as the Messiah.
The MESSIAH is a lesser being of lesser authority then GOD, the Most high god.
To believe that an entity is passed off and given an earthly name separate then anything short of “GOD THE MOST HIGH”
is to agree that God would ever step outside the parameters of PURE GOD-ship even a lesser degree of it.
- No one goes to the son if not through the father
( projection of refferal outside of self)
John 6:38
Verse Concepts
For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
(Projection of refferal to an action none related to authority within himself but separate commanding authority)
John 5:19
Verse Concepts
Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.
(projection of lesser authority of act and adoption of mimicking actions to a higher being - the father )
John 14:31
Verse Concepts
but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me. Get up, let us go from here.
( acceptance of order from a being not within himself but outside of self )
John 14:28
Verse Concepts
You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
(Projection of self admition in which a highet being exists and is higher in greatness then he )
I can do this for ever.
Believing in the Trinity is believing that GOD did not design a SOn, called it his SON, kept himself as GOD within Full god-ship and for one humanly life time appointed his entirety of being to a human body.
No…. Just no…. GOD will never stop being GOD and even the messiah, being an important part of his being with an allocated degree of him within him is still not the “principial He” the Father.
The son is the father as i am my father as i come from my father as i am a portion of my father but ill never be my father, i could act like my father, my father can allocate power to me but the concept of allocation of power is a hand off from a higher entity that maintains its “most high” status at all times.
Its the whole point of the messiah.
Why would god incarnate as entirely him within understanding that he himself is him yet identifying as a lesser being such as the Messiah.
The MESSIAH is a lesser being of lesser authority then GOD, the Most high god.
To believe that an entity is passed off and given an earthly name separate then anything short of “GOD THE MOST HIGH”
is to agree that God would ever step outside the parameters of PURE GOD-ship even a lesser degree of it.
- No one goes to the son if not through the father
( projection of refferal outside of self)
John 6:38
Verse Concepts
For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
(Projection of refferal to an action none related to authority within himself but separate commanding authority)
John 5:19
Verse Concepts
Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.
(projection of lesser authority of act and adoption of mimicking actions to a higher being - the father )
John 14:31
Verse Concepts
but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me. Get up, let us go from here.
( acceptance of order from a being not within himself but outside of self )
John 14:28
Verse Concepts
You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
(Projection of self admition in which a highet being exists and is higher in greatness then he )
I can do this for ever.
Believing in the Trinity is believing that GOD did not design a SOn, called it his SON, kept himself as GOD within Full god-ship and for one humanly life time appointed his entirety of being to a human body.
No…. Just no…. GOD will never stop being GOD and even the messiah, being an important part of his being with an allocated degree of him within him is still not the “principial He” the Father.
The son is the father as i am my father as i come from my father as i am a portion of my father but ill never be my father, i could act like my father, my father can allocate power to me but the concept of allocation of power is a hand off from a higher entity that maintains its “most high” status at all times.
Its the whole point of the messiah.
All bible verses of Jesus being considered “GOD” are verses of others in reference to him — because they cant define a difference of the two .
All verses of Jesus himself in reference to his Father state one thing clear…he considers his father greater then HE.
The definition of GOD can only come from the closest to understanding GOD… his son and not from apostle/prophetic interpretation.
Considering Jesus — GOD is round 2 of the Mosaic failure….and the Failure of the church allocated to Aaron.
The order of Melchizedek will soon reign and the church as we know it will fall.
The true church without officiation at the altar in which laws and understanding are written in the hearts of men is here.
Be well and goodbyes.
All verses of Jesus himself in reference to his Father state one thing clear…he considers his father greater then HE.
The definition of GOD can only come from the closest to understanding GOD… his son and not from apostle/prophetic interpretation.
Considering Jesus — GOD is round 2 of the Mosaic failure….and the Failure of the church allocated to Aaron.
The order of Melchizedek will soon reign and the church as we know it will fall.
The true church without officiation at the altar in which laws and understanding are written in the hearts of men is here.
Be well
and goodbyes.
S
SophieT
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I'm wondering if the op is a fan of mystical online games or a reader of novels of the same persuasion or perhaps has intentions of delving into such creations for himself
can't make sense out of it otherwise and would not even try
can't make sense out of it otherwise and would not even try