What is the will of God ?

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RaceBoy

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What is the problem if you are not sinning??? :oops::unsure::geek:
There is no problem. Its just that (if i remember) Jesus said that only those who do the will of God will be saved (again correct me if I'm wrong).
 

arthurfleminger

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I've been thinking about this for a while now and I'm wondering what exactly does the God want us to do ? I've read verses (correct me if I'm wrong) about how only those who do the will of God will enter into heaven, and then I've got other people (and verses) saying just believe and confess and you'll be saved. However this is but the only thing that bothers me. The main thing is if I can live my life (not sinning of course) the way I want to, while doing things (I think) God would approve of (feeding the poor, spreading the gospel/reading the Bible,etc). This may be a hard question but if y'all have an answer I would like to hear.

God’s will is of the utmost importance in His salvation plan.

Jesus tells us in Matthew 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


We learn from Jesus, in the “The Parable of the Good Samaritan” in which all the law, God‘s will is summed up simply. “What is written in the Law?” Jesus replied. “How do you read it?” He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’ and ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” “You have answered correctly,” Jesus said. “Do this and you will live.”…
 

arthurfleminger

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God's will is 'Love of God and love of neighbor. Love of God and neighbor is intertwined, you can't have one without the other. Jesus shows us this very clearly in the Gospel of Matthew and the 'Judgement of Nations'. Whenever we show our love for our neighbor we show our love for God. And, in fact we will be judged on this concept:

"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' "He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (TNIV, Matthew 25:31-46)
 

arthurfleminger

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Believe Jesus.. And trust in the Atonement the LORD Jesus secured for the forgiveness of your sins on the cross..

That's the will of God for us as far as salvation goes..

Now when we are indwelled by the Holy Spirit we shall desire to do some good works.. Does not mean we shall have a ton of good works but the Holy Spirit will move us to do something.. Some will give emotional support to people who are down.. Some will donate material things giving charity to those who do not have material things.. Some will share the message of the gospel to others.. Some will raise Children well informed about the will of God.. And there are more areas of works..

But never ever think you salvation depends on your performance in doing works.. Works salvation thinking is the rejection of the true Gospel of salvation by the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ.. We are saved by what Jesus did for us.. We are not saved by the things we do for God or the things we do for others..

Actually, Jesus Himself begs to differ with your thoughts on good works. Jesus gives us the blueprint of the criteria on which we shall be judged on the last day, in the 'Judgement of Nations'. We will be judged on how we showed our love of God through our love of neighbor. The reading is straight forward and simple to understand:

"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.' "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?' "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.'
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' "He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (TNIV, Matthew 25:31-46)
 

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Actually, Jesus Himself begs to differ with your thoughts on good works. Jesus gives us the blueprint of the criteria on which we shall be judged on the last day, in the 'Judgement of Nations'. We will be judged on how we showed our love of God through our love of neighbor. The reading is straight forward and simple to understand:
But that judgement where Christians are concerned will not include the possability of eternal damnation...

Our performance in works will not cause us to attain or lose salvation..

Our believing Jesus and trusting in the Atonement shall secure for us salvation..

There will be Christians who shall be called Greater in the Kingdom of God and Christians who will be called least in the Kingdom of God and good works will have a lot to do in determining who shall be greater and who shall be least.. But salvation is all about Belief and Trust not about works..
 

arthurfleminger

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But that judgement where Christians are concerned will not include the possability of eternal damnation...

Our performance in works will not cause us to attain or lose salvation..

Our believing Jesus and trusting in the Atonement shall secure for us salvation..

There will be Christians who shall be called Greater in the Kingdom of God and Christians who will be called least in the Kingdom of God and good works will have a lot to do in determining who shall be greater and who shall be least.. But salvation is all about Belief and Trust not about works..

You say that that judgement does not include Christians. Sorry, but you are wrong. The 'Judgement of Nations' scripture passage is very clearly written and straight to the point. All nations and souls will be judged according to the Scripture of the Last Judgement. Christians are not excluded. Where do you get the idea that Christians will be excluded from the last judgement of Christ? Christ will judge all of us. In fact, Christ will publicly judge all people by the testimony of their faith – the good works of the righteous in evidence of their faith, and the evil works of the wicked in evidence of their unbelief.

In the presence of Christ, who is Truth itself, the truth of each man’s relationship with God will be laid bare. The Last Judgment will reveal even to its furthest consequences the good each person has done or failed to do during his earthly life. And that includes Christians.
 

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You say that that judgement does not include Christians. Sorry, but you are wrong. The 'Judgement of Nations' scripture passage is very clearly written and straight to the point. All nations and souls will be judged according to the Scripture of the Last Judgement. Christians are not excluded. Where do you get the idea that Christians will be excluded from the last judgement of Christ?
You either did not read my post or you have chosen to wilfully ignore it and state i said something i never said. I never calimed Christians would not be judged..
 
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You either did not read my post or you have chosen to wilfully ignore it and state i said something i never said. I never calimed Christians would not be judged..
Hehe, yes it did, tends to happen a lot. No thread is allowed to stay on topic. It is sad. Regarding the nations thing, that is about the nation of Christ, the real followers is a nation of their own. The fake ones are not of that nation. That is the kingdom of God. He is our lord, you are in the nation of christianity or not. People like to twist it up, and make false meanings. It is how people are, the herd of sheeps will be divided among God and Satan, 1 for God for each 99 sheeps that Satan gets. Need to deceive the 99%, to comfort them with an illusion about going to Heaven when they are jogging to Hell. We cannot help them.
 

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Hehe, yes it did, tends to happen a lot. No thread is allowed to stay on topic. It is sad. Regarding the nations thing, that is about the nation of Christ, the real followers is a nation of their own. The fake ones are not of that nation. That is the kingdom of God. He is our lord, you are in the nation of christianity or not. People like to twist it up, and make false meanings. It is how people are, the herd of sheeps will be divided among God and Satan, 1 for God for each 99 sheeps that Satan gets. Need to deceive the 99%, to comfort them with an illusion about going to Heaven when they are jogging to Hell. We cannot help them.
Kindness, humility, honesty, fairness, courage, meekness and charity can't hurt.In other words; Righteousness, not self righteousness.
 

ISeeWhat4U

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Fantastic question. Love God by living a life of obedience to Him (lovingly following His Word with joy) & love others with humility. Easier said than done but obeying God & following His Will is living our life reflecting His love for us. Our works won’t save us but His Grace already did through Jesus, our life of holiness is in response to His love & grace. God bless you, love you.
 

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Short and sweet!!! 1 Thess 5:18!!!! I cannot tell you by saying this outloud has really blessed me because One can actully STAY in HIS will!!!! Everyday I speak this thanksgiving!! I know times are hard,but like Jesus told us ( Phil 4:7-9) THINK and DWELL on this only!!! You will see a great and blessed change in your life!! I sure did!!!
 

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I think you have to understand the will of God most and foremost is the 10 commandments, and to Love God above all. above your hopes and desires, above your own personal goals and happiness! Yes above those things!
second, is to know who God is in your life, when you read his word you wouldn't think that he doesn't want you to succeed and live a prosperous life, he wants you to have life and live in abundance, it is his will, but is your heart in line with his will? he gave up everything for you when he send his Son to die for our sins. There's so much more than money and material possessions, you have so much to look forward to and so much more to learn Boy!

Explore John 10:10b, "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." "More abundantly" means to have a superabundance of a thing. "Abundant life" refers to life in its abounding fullness of joy and strength for spirit, soul and body ... Read john 10:10 how ever you interpret it, it is written, so it is his will.
 
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I've been thinking about this for a while now and I'm wondering what exactly does the God want us to do ? I've read verses (correct me if I'm wrong) about how only those who do the will of God will enter into heaven, and then I've got other people (and verses) saying just believe and confess and you'll be saved. However this is but the only thing that bothers me. The main thing is if I can live my life (not sinning of course) the way I want to, while doing things (I think) God would approve of (feeding the poor, spreading the gospel/reading the Bible,etc). This may be a hard question but if y'all have an answer I would like to hear.
Bottom link is the true gospel of how God gave the Holy Spirit to one of God's elect.
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...games-and-computer-games-are-all-sins.199859/

There a bunch of changes in God's elect's life when they receive the Holy Spirit.
1. All God's elects that receive the Holy Spirit, will have an effect of permanent cure to boredom. Proof: John 14:26-27 and Philippians 4:7
2. Start producing the fruits of the Spirit.
3. God makes you weak (garden of gethsemane=pray to overcome it all) during trails and tribulation in order for you to depend on him.
4. God causes events to happen where you are tested and tempted for each sin. So God can perfect your character to be like Jesus.
5. True gospel link I posted will get you persecuted by your physical family and mostly during family gatherings=holidays. That is the cost for obeying God. You must love God more than your family, friends and more.
6. Pray to God for everything, you are sincere when tears comes out.
7. Abide on the vine (Jesus), pray to find the other elects and fellowship.
8. God causes events to happen, where God gave me paying jobs just to survive. Yes I had to move. Am not going to talk about what exactly happen during the family persecution and what jobs. Reason is you have to depend on God, not on men.

If you find out you are nonelect, forget everything to do with God and live a peace/quiet life that most people live.
 

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I've been thinking about this for a while now and I'm wondering what exactly does the God want us to do ? I've read verses (correct me if I'm wrong) about how only those who do the will of God will enter into heaven, and then I've got other people (and verses) saying just believe and confess and you'll be saved. However this is but the only thing that bothers me. The main thing is if I can live my life (not sinning of course) the way I want to, while doing things (I think) God would approve of (feeding the poor, spreading the gospel/reading the Bible,etc). This may be a hard question but if y'all have an answer I would like to hear.
The Word of God in the Bible is His Will.
Believe the Word and do it. That's the Will of God.

The Holy Spirit says. "Rejoice always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus (1 Thessalonians 5:16-18) NIV.

Rejoice always and delight in your faith; be unceasing and persistent in prayer; in every situation [no matter what the circumstances] be thankful and continually give thanks to God; for this is the will of God for you in Christ Jesus ( 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18) AMP.

Thanks,
JESUS IS LORD.
 

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God's will for us to BECOME saved:

John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.

God's will for us AFTER we have been saved: (but not an exhaustive list)

1 Thessalonians 5:14 - Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all. 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
 

Magenta

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God's will for us AFTER we have been saved: (but not an exhaustive list)

1 Thessalonians 5:14 - Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all. 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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