TRANSGENDERISM

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EnglishChick

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I saw that video. It was awesome. That fool wearing fake boobs, high heels and lipstick looked like a complete idiot.

Someone needs to tell these people that mutilating your body and taking hormones will NEVER change their gender.

Yup will only mess you up
 

Icedaisey

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Many people believe that all genetic material was present in Adam before Eve was made. Of course you are free to differ.
Eve was created from Adam's rib. Not from his foot so to be beneath him, not from his skull so to be over him, but from his rib at the center of him. And all that was Adam was first and foremost of and from God. They were thus created as equals, both of and from God.

On to Transgenders. Transitioning genders. I think it's too easy to blame Tranny's on Satan. Who was first Lucifer, most beautiful and precious as Omniscient, Omnipotent, God's creation. That anointed cherub.Ezekiel 28:13–15 NKJV

Rather, I think when the world grows it's courage back, we'll hear Transgenders identified as what they truly are. Mentally ill. Due to a chromosome imbalance, malfunction, a hormone disorder. Something and skin to Body Integrity Dysphoria. Since Gender Identity Disorder is hardly tolerated today as a rightful diagnosis.

And those Tranny's filled with regret are targeted by the very community that supported them before.

Are we surprised?
 
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Adhradh

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Eve was created from Adam's rib. Not from his foot so to be beneath him, not from his skull so to be over him, but from his rib at the center of him. And all that was Adam was first and foremost of and from God. They were thus created as equals, both of and from God.

On to Transgenders. Transitioning genders. I think it's too easy to blame Tranny's on Satan. Who was first Lucifer, most beautiful and precious as Omniscient, Omnipotent, God's creation. That anointed cherub.Ezekiel 28:13–15 NKJV

Rather, I think when the world grows it's courage back, we'll hear Transgenders identified as what they truly are. Mentally ill. Due to a chromosome imbalance, malfunction, a hormone disorder. Something and skin to Body Integrity Dysphoria. Since Gender Identity Disorder is hardly tolerated today as a rightful diagnosis.

And those Tranny's filled with regret are targeted by the very community that supported them before.

Are we surprised?
The word "Trannys" (without the apostrophe), is offensive. You're free to use it and be offensive - free speech after all, but if you're a Christian just consider that if there was a transgender person here they might not feel very welcome.
 

JohnDB

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It's a result of some really bad attitudes.

What Ham did to Noah was obvious...so when Noah sobered up he cursed Canaan. But God is always good. So was Noah!
Ham wasn't good.

Noah's curse wasn't a curse...it was a proclamation of the truth. Ham was going to curse his favorite son. It was his attitudes that was going to do it...no one else.

Same thing here with transgender. It lousy parenting causing the gender dysphoria. Parents aren't exactly giving children the clear idea about where to go for an identity check. (God) These children know the words their parents say but they watch their actions more and react based on them.

And so the whole world gets the primary influence in their lives instead of their heavenly father. The whole world will tell you that you are homosexual or transgender and it's preferable to be that. God and most parents have a very different message.

I am who I am...God made me. My interests are widely varied...I'm just a guy. No more and no less. I'm not "special" in that...which is what these teenagers and young people want desperately in their lives...but they get treated more like one half step up from property than people by their parents. And this is the result.
 

Seeker47

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In all the discussions of the origins of transgenders one rarely hears what is the main issue, power and control. The person seeks to control those around them and to force them to accept their view of reality. Perhaps that are weak willed or unable to cope, but when they totally change reality they force those who love them to acknowledge them on their own terms.

One can support nature or nurture, but it ultimately is about control.
 

Icedaisey

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The word "Trannys" (without the apostrophe), is offensive. You're free to use it and be offensive - free speech after all, but if you're a Christian just consider that if there was a transgender person here they might not feel very welcome.
Consider when Transsexuals use the word Tranny among themselves, your claim is Heterophobic.
 
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Adhradh

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Consider when Transsexuals use the word Tranny among themselves, your claim is Heterophobic.
Groups of people often adopt slurs used against them in an ironic way, but when used by people not in that group it is considered a slur. Think of African Americans, or homosexuals. You can use that word if you want, but you won't convert anyone to your cause.
 

Icedaisey

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Groups of people often adopt slurs used against them in an ironic way, but when used by people not in that group it is considered a slur. Think of African Americans, or homosexuals. You can use that word if you want, but you won't convert anyone to your cause.
Palatable self-deprecating slurs are acceptable among your own, but you consider them insults from others. When you choose to receive an insult from non-Trans, and other homosexuals, when you're not being insulted by your own, you're not persuading anyone to your side of the argument.

And don't compare your community's verbiage to that of blacks.
When the higher ups in the music industry persuaded the first hip hop artists to substitute a vowel for the consonant in the slur, they weren't doing so to empower the people who conceded to the change, and ran with it.

They were leading people hungry for the money and fame to accept a lie. And by doing so, proceeded to spread a word in the adoption of it into their culture that would have them openly calling each other the same 'ol N word. It all hinged also on a wager among the financier's of those early artists. And they weren't then black financier's either.
Make no mistake, we know there are consonant worthy N words in our community as well. We know it, they know it.

Now, certain of us stupidly think we empowered ourselves by using the vowel version of the N word.
That slur version has never left my lips. Nor my husband's, or our children's.

If Tranny is a selective endearing word to your people, but taken as a slur when uttered by others, you all have been led into the same trap.

And among you all that altering selective designation in nomenclature doesn't stop with the T word either. You know that.

Lastly, we don't convert anyone to "our cause".
No one comes to Christ unless the Father calls them.

IF you are Trans-suffering, and arrive here thinking to further your cause, that you're OK as is, and I think your new member arrival into this thread 4th post in is suspect, it is you who will fail in your cause.

You're not OK as is when you presume to look at yourself and judge you'd be better off thinking your anatomy should be other.

Seek help. If God calls, pray attention. Don't think you'll be tolerated here if you presume to push the false idea homosexuality and Trans-affliction are normal or God appointed.
They're not.
 
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Adhradh

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Palatable self-deprecating slurs are acceptable among your own, but you consider them insults from others. When you choose to receive an insult from non-Trans, and other homosexuals, when you're not being insulted by your own, you're not persuading anyone to your side of the argument.

And don't compare your community's verbiage to that of blacks.
When the higher ups in the music industry persuaded the first hip hop artists to substitute a vowel for the consonant in the slur, they weren't doing so to empower the people who conceded to the change, and ran with it.

They were leading people hungry for the money and fame to accept a lie. And by doing so, proceeded to spread a word in the adoption of it into their culture that would have them openly calling each other the same 'ol N word. It all hinged also on a wager among the financier's of those early artists. And they weren't then black financier's either.
Make no mistake, we know there are consonant worthy N words in our community as well. We know it, they know it.

Now, certain of us stupidly think we empowered ourselves by using the vowel version of the N word.
That slur version has never left my lips. Nor my husband's, or our children's.

If Tranny is a selective endearing word to your people, but taken as a slur when uttered by others, you all have been led into the same trap.

And among you all that altering selective designation in nomenclature doesn't stop with the T word either. You know that.

Lastly, we don't convert anyone to "our cause".
No one comes to Christ unless the Father calls them.

IF you are Trans-suffering, and arrive here thinking to further your cause, that you're OK as is, and I think your new member arrival into this thread 4th post in is suspect, it is you who will fail in your cause.

You're not OK as is when you presume to look at yourself and judge you'd be better off thinking your anatomy should be other.

Seek help. If God calls, pray attention. Don't think you'll be tolerated here if you presume to push the false idea homosexuality and Trans-affliction are normal or God appointed.
They're not.
I'm not transgender... Just pointing out that you're using a word that if someone who is trans and seeking to learn more about Christianity came here and saw, they would not feel welcome.
 

Icedaisey

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I'm not transgender... Just pointing out that you're using a word that if someone who is trans and seeking to learn more about Christianity came here and saw, they would not feel welcome.
That they have accomplished certain denominations not to be named to turn from God's word, turn apostate, in order to make Trans-suffering, as indicated among their number who regret their decision, and homosexuals feel welcome without repentance, affords a place for them to feel welcome and misled.

While God's words do not compromise to make sinners identified by it feel welcome to remain condemned and damned.

As they say, "The Bible ain't PC!"
 
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Adhradh

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That they have accomplished certain denominations not to be named to turn from God's word, turn apostate, in order to make Trans-suffering, as indicated among their number who regret their decision, and homosexuals feel welcome without repentance, affords a place for them to feel welcome and misled.

While God's words do not compromise to make sinners identified by it feel welcome to remain condemned and damned.

As they say, "The Bible ain't PC!"
There's a big difference between being un-PC and alienating souls that need God's salvation desperately.
"Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall. "
 

Icedaisey

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There's a big difference between being un-PC and alienating souls that need God's salvation desperately.
"Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall. "
You misrepresented the import of the chapter by cherry picking a verse.

1 John 2:15-17 (ESV)Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world.
 
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Adhradh

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You misrepresented the import of the chapter by cherry picking a verse.

1 John 2:15-17 (ESV)Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world.
If you want to call people slurs, go for it. Peace.
 

CS1

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The word "Trannys" (without the apostrophe), is offensive. You're free to use it and be offensive - free speech after all, but if you're a Christian just consider that if there was a transgender person here they might not feel very welcome.
there is no such thing as transgender. it is a false narrative, and abandonment reality, it is a cognitive dilemma. Even those who are gay dislike the connection with them. Most gays who are in a relationship see trans as a mockery of what they have. Even a transgender drag queen said do not bring children to this kind of events they are for adults seeking sex, drugs, and pornography.



 

Icedaisey

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there is no such thing as transgender. it is a false narrative, and abandonment reality, it is a cognitive dilemma. Even those who are gay dislike the connection with them. Most gays who are in a relationship see trans as a mockery of what they have. Even a transgender drag queen said do not bring children to this kind of events they are for adults seeking sex, drugs, and pornography.



That's mockery of natural born women. It's a Halloween costume of devil's.



The shame, besides these devil's reading gender bending stories, is they're part of a movement.
https://www.dragqueenstoryhour.org/

Shame on parents for letting their kids stay there for that satanic indoctrination program.
 
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Adhradh

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there is no such thing as transgender. it is a false narrative, and abandonment reality, it is a cognitive dilemma. Even those who are gay dislike the connection with them. Most gays who are in a relationship see trans as a mockery of what they have. Even a transgender drag queen said do not bring children to this kind of events they are for adults seeking sex, drugs, and pornography.
The thing is I agree that gender dysphoria is an illness and I don't support transgender ideology etc. I only entered the discussion to question the fruitfulness of using slurs. Surely we want to welcome these people, not alienate them?
 

CS1

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The thing is I agree that gender dysphoria is an illness and I don't support transgender ideology etc. I only entered the discussion to question the fruitfulness of using slurs. Surely we want to welcome these people, not alienate them?
I did not use fruitless Slurs please sure me which one?