Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Exactly, this "covid" never existed, it is all a fraud! I tremble at the thought what these murderous and evil men will suffer when they stand before our Righteous, and Holy God!
And I tremble to think what Christians will suffer by taking this poisonous jab!
Okay thanks for the links!
Now I know I can post!
Love in Christ......:cool:
It's sad when believers react in such a manner without providing truth to back up their false narrative.......
@seed_time_harvest @eternally-gratefull

Here is proof......

https://thenewabnormal513330780.wor...b-scientist-covid-19-is-fake-wake-up-america/
 

Aidan1

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Greetings everyone, the Lord bless each of you.

When I was seeking the Lord concerning this "fake" virus, I just felt something was not honest in how it was all being presented.
I've done the research, this "covid" has NEVER been isolated, and over 104 Medical institutions, Experts, Universities, and a court in Alberta"Health services" proclaimed, via a letter to the court, they could NOT present they had any "Factual proof" that this "virus" was isolated. They stated it does not exist. Then the Judge proclaimed that the Mask mandates, and the forcing of people for the vax, was NOT LAWFUL!
When asking the Lord, a found this scripture: Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. The Word sorceries in the Strongs greek means:
φαρμακεία
pharmakeia
far-mak-i'-ah
From G5332; medication (“pharmacy”), that is, (by extension) magic (literal or figurative): - sorcery, witchcraft.
φαρμακεύς
pharmakeus
far-mak-yoos'
From φάρμακον pharmakon (a drug, that is, spell giving potion); a druggist (“pharmacist”) or poisoner, that is, (by extension) a magician: - sorcerer.

I also happen to find a web-site, by a Pastor, who laid out all the satanic symbolism, and signs within the Medical Associations, etc, and what they stand for and from whence they came. If anyone is interested I can place a link to that web-site, if THAT is ALLOWABLE? I'm new here so I do not know. It would be a blessing to know if I am allowed to place link's within messages.

Once I read this I knew by the Holy Spirit, that NO true believer should be taking the vaccine, why? Because our bodies are not our own, we are His Living Temple. He is our Lord, our God, our Saviour, we can not ever bow the knee to those who sit in High places who are obeying the orders, of their master the devil. This whole situation is built upon a Criminal based lie, to destroy the lives of humans, upon the earth.
We who do walk in the Light, are NOT to believe a lie, we are taught we are to stand for the truth. Truth is, this whole Ungodly situation is a fraudulent lie and a Murderous Sham.
We as believer's are taught that we must lay ALL upon the Altar, that mean's our family, taking pleasures to travel, visit family, to eat out.....and to save ones job.....well all that is not worth disobeying what the Lord desires of His Children. I do know this also Any one who does take the "killing jab" may not suffer consequences now, but according to 100's doctor's, nurses, and innumerable Medical Professionals are stating between 6 months to 1, 2 or 3 years. Many will die......this death jab is meant to destroy your God given...immune system. Hundred's of thousands have died already, and a million or more have permanent nerve damage.

So I shall leave it there, I pray the Lord will guide your thoughts, and we are instructed to "search out ALL things" to see if they be according to God's requirements or not. I will leave this scripture for you to read:

Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.



The Lord bless you all!
Sorry brother to say, you claime without proof that 100 of thausends people died because of the vaccine? In germany out of 92 376 787 injection were given 1254 died after vaccination till 1st of august 2021. 48 of them are shurly died because of the vaccine., the death cause of the others is not shure to combined with the vaccine. Around 94 000 people died because of the virus.
I dont think that the vaccine in other countrys is more deadly then in ours.
You mentioned the sideeffects from the vaccined people. But you ignore the death and the damages after an virusinfection.
If you want talk about truth. Then do it.
You are picturing that taking the vaccine is an sin. Do you ask the doctors and nurses which are fighting against this virus and try to save their patients live?
 
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Sorry brother to say, you claime without proof that 100 of thausends people died because of the vaccine? In germany out of 92 376 787 injection were given 1254 died after vaccination till 1st of august 2021. 48 of them are shurly died because of the vaccine., the death cause of the others is not shure to combined with the vaccine. Around 94 000 people died because of the virus.
I dont think that the vaccine in other countrys is more deadly then in ours.
You mentioned the sideeffects from the vaccined people. But you ignore the death and the damages after an virusinfection.
If you want talk about truth. Then do it.
You are picturing that taking the vaccine is an sin. Do you ask the doctors and nurses which are fighting against this virus and try to save their patients live?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7lfuIhrGdBI1/
 

shittim

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thanks L of C
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and Dr. Lee Merrit also have good info,
 
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And I should trust this. And not the other people who say the opposite?
No thank you
Who are the ones you are relating too? Please show it, it's the only correct thing to do.
Our God is a God of specific's, and desires that all things be provided to support one's thinking and belief.

Here is proof that this is not a virus:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7lfuIhrGdBI1/
And there are scores of other's, actually hundred's of professional medical people revealing the truth.

Lord bless you.....
 
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SophieT

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you are right, the sad thing is hearing those who say foolish things like we to spread fear and not love or


"You have to trust that the facts which are gathered are truthful."

" I think it is funny when people fight the covid death figures because they claim the facts are skewed. "

They have a short memory of what happened in 2019-2020.

  1. this was only going to be two weeks of isolation
  2. this was done only to slow the spread not stop it
  3. State of officials call all death COVID-19 related even if it was not
  4. in 2020-2021 The common flu and Cold did not show up as it does every year killing over 300, 000 each year Only COVID-19 was the culprit.
And on and on it goes. CDC changed its position within 24 hours after the Teacher's union Complained. The WHO lied about China. and on and on it goes.
California said we all must mitigate and isolate but not BLM or protesters, yet they forced churches to close or be fined. They allowed the homeless to place tents anywhere and do drugs and defecate in the public. NO serious issues with that? no medical concerns of Hepatitis, MRSA, COVID-19, drug addiction, and dead bodies that were left in these homeless areas until they started to rot.

The media has not addressed this fully, yet those here are moved by fear and make excuses for what they don't know because they clearly are not in street ministries.

oh yeah

you can't keep up with the lies

the media is slowly detaching from the liar in chief.....he has insulted them now

I have said from the beginning the democrats will implode. and they will
 
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Here is an interesting posting by Vernon Coleman revealing the deaths and side affects of person's after "death jab".

https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/how-many-people-are-vaccines-killing

This shall be the end of my posting, I shall not be contentious with those who do not believe the truth.
The Lord knows all things......."Let God be true and every man a liar". I lie not, for it is sin.
We will be judged by our works, and what we believe.

Lord bless you all.
 
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I'm certainly not going to loose my mind...;)
It's sad when a believer says something like this. "We have to laugh".......at all this stuff"..........How does this represent the Love of Christ?
It does not.....

I have the mind of Christ, and My Peace is His Peace, He keeps me, during this time of great sorrow, suffering and unbelief.
 
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SophieT

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and you want me to research?
yes, actually. you are just making noise otherwise.

because you find the info I posted to you on the websites of the FDA AND Pfizer

in other words, not my opinion or Joe Blows opinion or Dr Counter Jabs opinion

mark that the current vaccine (calling it vaccine even though it is not) is NOT the one approved by the FDA

it is only the Comirnaty version of the vaccine that is approved and it is not available yet

why? because the current one is for emergency use only which means NO ONE can sue them for adverse effects

if the FDA approves a vaccine, people CAN (and will) sue

following is a list of from the Pfizer site of KNOWN side effects
 
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PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE COMIRNATY® RECEIVES FULL U.S. FDA APPROVAL FOR INDIVIDUALS 16 YEARS AND OLDER
Monday, August 23, 2021 - 11:57am
  • COMIRNATY is the first COVID-19 vaccine to be granted FDA approval
  • Approval is based on a comprehensive submission package including six-month efficacy and safety data after second dose
  • More than 1.2 billion Pfizer-BioNTech doses have been delivered to more than 120 countries or territories around the world since December 2020

NEW YORK & MAINZ, Germany--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Pfizer Inc. (NYSE: PFE) and BioNTech SE (Nasdaq: BNTX) today announced that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the Biologics License Application (BLA) for COMIRNATY® (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older. COMIRNATY is the first COVID-19 vaccine to be granted approval by the FDA.
This press release features multimedia. View the full release here: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210823005499/en/
The vaccine has been available in the U.S. under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) since December 11, 2020 (as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine). The EUA permitted essential rollout of vaccine doses across the U.S. to help provide protection during the COVID-19 public health emergency, based on initial data from the pivotal Phase 3 clinical trial.
For FDA approval, Pfizer and BioNTech submitted a comprehensive data package that included longer-term follow-up data from the Phase 3 trial, where the vaccine’s high efficacy and favorable safety profile were observed up to six months after the second dose. The BLA submission package also included the manufacturing and facilities data required for licensure. Pfizer and BioNTech completed submission of the BLA in May 2021, and the BLA was granted Priority Review in July 2021.
“Based on the longer-term follow-up data that we submitted, today’s decision by the FDA affirms the efficacy and safety profile of our vaccine at a time when it is urgently needed. About 60 percent of eligible Americans are fully vaccinated, and infection, hospitalization and death rates continue to rise rapidly among unvaccinated populations across the country,” said Albert Bourla, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Pfizer. “I am hopeful this approval will help increase confidence in our vaccine, as vaccination remains the best tool we have to help protect lives and achieve herd immunity. Hundreds of millions of doses of our vaccine already have been administered in the U.S. since December 2020, and we look forward to continuing to work with the U.S. government to reach more Americans now that we have FDA approval.”
“Today's full approval by the FDA underlines the vaccine's high efficacy and favorable safety profile,” said Ugur Sahin, M.D., CEO and Co-founder of BioNTech. “Our companies have shipped more than one billion doses worldwide, and we will continue to work tirelessly to broaden the access to our vaccine and to be prepared for potential emerging escape variants.”
As announced on August 16, Pfizer and BioNTech plan to seek licensure of a third, or booster, dose of COMIRNATY in individuals 16 years of age and older via a supplemental BLA. The companies also intend to submit a supplemental BLA to support potential full FDA approval of COMIRNATY in individuals 12 through 15 years of age once the required data out to six months after the second vaccine dose are available. In the meantime, the vaccine remains available to 12- to 15-year-olds under the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) granted by the FDA on May 10, 2021. For individuals at least 12 years of age who have undergone solid organ transplantation, or who are diagnosed with conditions that are considered to have an equivalent level of immunocompromise, a third dose of the vaccine also remains available under EUA following an amendment by the FDA on August 12.
COMIRNATY, which is based on BioNTech’s proprietary mRNA technology, was developed by both BioNTech and Pfizer. BioNTech is the Marketing Authorization Holder in the United States, the European Union and the United Kingdom, and the holder of emergency use authorizations or equivalents in the United States (jointly with Pfizer), Canada and other countries. Submissions to pursue regulatory approvals in those countries where emergency use authorizations or equivalent were initially granted are planned.

CON'T
 
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Indication & Authorized Use
COMIRNATY® (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is an FDA-approved COVID-19 vaccine made by Pfizer for BioNTech.
  • It is approved as a 2-dose series for prevention of COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older
  • It is also authorized under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to be administered for emergency use to:
    • prevent COVID-19 in individuals 12 through 15 years, and
    • provide a third dose to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been determined to have certain kinds of immunocompromise
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine has received EUA from FDA to:
  • prevent COVID-19 in individuals 12 years of age and older, and
  • provide a third dose to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been determined to have certain kinds of immunocompromise
The FDA-approved COMIRNATY® (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and the EUA-authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine have the same formulation and can be used interchangeably to provide the COVID-19 vaccination series. An individual may be offered either COMIRNATY® (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) or the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by SARS-CoV-2.
EUA Statement
This emergency use of the product has not been approved or licensed by FDA, but has been authorized by FDA under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 12 years of age and older; and the emergency use of this product is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of the medical product under Section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act unless the declaration is terminated or authorization revoked sooner.
Important Safety Information
Individuals should not get the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine if they:
  • had a severe allergic reaction after a previous dose of this vaccine
  • had a severe allergic reaction to any ingredient of this vaccine
Individuals should tell the vaccination provider about all of their medical conditions, including if they:
  • have any allergies
  • have had myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) or pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)
  • have a fever
  • have a bleeding disorder or are on a blood thinner
  • are immunocompromised or are on a medicine that affects the immune system
  • are pregnant, plan to become pregnant, or are breastfeeding
  • have received another COVID-19 vaccine
  • have ever fainted in association with an injection
The vaccine may not protect everyone.
Side effects reported with the vaccine include:
  • There is a remote chance that the vaccine could cause a severe allergic reaction
    • A severe allergic reaction would usually occur within a few minutes to one hour after getting a dose of the vaccine. For this reason, vaccination providers may ask individuals to stay at the place where they received the vaccine for monitoring after vaccination
    • Signs of a severe allergic reaction can include difficulty breathing, swelling of the face and throat, a fast heartbeat, a bad rash all over the body, dizziness, and weakness
    • If an individual experiences a severe allergic reaction, they should call 9-1-1 or go to the nearest hospital
  • Myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart) have occurred in some people who have received the vaccine. In most of these people, symptoms began within a few days following receipt of the second dose of the vaccine. The chance of having this occur is very low. Individuals should seek medical attention right away if they have any of the following symptoms after receiving the vaccine:
    • chest pain
    • shortness of breath
    • feelings of having a fast-beating, fluttering, or pounding heart
  • Side effects that have been reported with the vaccine include:
    • severe allergic reactions; non-severe allergic reactions such as rash, itching, hives, or swelling of the face; myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle); pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart); injection site pain; tiredness; headache; muscle pain; chills; joint pain; fever; injection site swelling; injection site redness; nausea; feeling unwell; swollen lymph nodes (lymphadenopathy); diarrhea; vomiting; arm pain
  • These may not be all the possible side effects of the vaccine. Serious and unexpected side effects may occur. The vaccine is still being studied in clinical trials. Call the vaccination provider or healthcare provider about bothersome side effects or side effects that do not go away
There is no information on the use of the vaccine with other vaccines.
Patients should always ask their healthcare providers for medical advice about adverse events. Individuals are encouraged to report negative side effects of vaccines to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Visit http://www.vaers.hhs.gov or call 1‐800‐822‐7967. In addition, side effects can be reported to Pfizer Inc. at www.pfizersafetyreporting.com or by calling 1-800-438-1985.


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SophieT

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It's sad when a believer says something like this. "We have to laugh".......at all this stuff"..........How does this represent the Love of Christ?
It does not.....

I have the mind of Christ, and My Peace is His Peace, He keeps me, during this time of great sorrow, suffering and unbelief.

yeah I'm not getting into that
 
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SophieT

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anyhow, I hope you all notice that it is not the current vaccine that has approval

it is the as yet not available vaccine by Pfizer that has FDA approval

note, they state the formula is the same...BUT as I already noted, the current so called vaccine is for emergency use which means they are free and clear of any lawsuits

you should also note, that all these companies that are manufacturing the supposed vaccine for covid, have been sued over and over and over in times past, for their lies and misrepresentations

some time back, I posted about that as well

so..........it's really all about the $$$ for these companies.

arent' they all so clever?

Pfizer-BioNTech (COMIRNATY) Name Change
Pfizer-BioNTech (COMIRNATY) received U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval on August 23, 2021, for individuals 16 years of age and older. Once vaccines are approved by the FDA, companies can market the vaccines under brand names. COMIRNATY is the brand name for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. Now that the FDA-authorized Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has been approved by the FDA for individuals 16 years of age and older, it will be marketed as COMIRNATY. The use of the name Pfizer-BioNTech will still be used for individuals 12-15 years old since this age group has not been approved. There has been no change in the formulation of the vaccine since the name change.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Think about this...why would Israel give the vaccine to its entire population, the Jews who are the chosen people? Wouldn't they want to protect their national treasure, the Jews?
 
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