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If the house is the assembly of God, that is the Temple, is not our Savior the House and we the living stones thereof?
Amen - LIVING Stones - Alive n Free to worship God in Spirit and Truth - Amen

We are not to be imprisoned by dead stoned buildings.
 

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Jesus Yeshua teaches when He returns there shall not be one stone left upon the other. He also teaches He will rebuild the Temple. I believe this will be in the Ne Jerusalem...........(you may not believe this, but I could be wrong.)

He is the Head and the Corner Stone reject of men and taken up to His throne.
 

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It has just become Sabbath for me. I have wanted to speak on this thread but was busy on a couple of others.
One has run it's course, and the other has paused to give us all more time to grow into Christ.

GODblessusall, with his understanding, his knowledge and his wisdom.

This topic has been a debate for many years, and a subject of great controversy. ..I hope with the Holy Spirits help, I maybe able to add some light on it & share what I have learnt from my studies of it.
Let's start with GOD....Genesis 1:1..."In the begin GOD,,,,, (clearly only one entity)
further on,.. the (last line of verse 2) ..."and the SPIRIT of GOD moved upon the faces of the waters" (entity no 2).
So far we have GOD and his SPIRIT.

Let's go to JESUS.....what does he say about himself.
John 10: 30 ..."I and the father are one"....(are the same, of the same entity)
John 10: 36.... he claims to be "the SON of GOD"...
there are many other great examples but these are good and quite direct.... Now the !st book of the Gospel's....Mathew:1 list the blood line of JESUS through his earthly father, linking him to Abraham Jessie,and David..... as it is written.
(Jesus is also linked to David and Jesse through his mother, cousin to mother of John the Baptist) through the line of Abia born of Roboam born of Solomon.

Now let's ask and answer a few questions:
WHO do we say came in the flesh?.....
WHAT is the name of that flesh?......
Now we know who the father of Jesus is, is it possible to be born of the flesh, if the flesh isn't there ? ....but once Mary comes on the scene, (because of her connection through Elizabeth, mother of John the Baptist, to the vine of Jesse),... as it is written.
We have the FLESH through whom Jesus is born.....who is the other missing half of this equation ?...What did GOD give Mary?....Luke 1: 35
And it says :"therefore also. that Holy thing that shall be born of thee, shall be called the SON of GOD.
Jesus's name is not mentioned again, since the Angel named him to Mary,.. till he is born....clearly Jesus wasn't at the beginning, but GOD was, with his Spirit, GOD gave his Spirit to Mary, JESUS was born...so now we have the 3 GOD heads, but TWO come from the ONE, and are now their own entity, and with him always.
I hope this helps, and welcome any thoughts.
I'm tired and will speak with anyone in the morning
LOVE, PEACE and HARMONY to all
 

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every house is built by someone -- and all things that were made, were made by Him, through Him, and for Him :)
"And I say, "Lady, I see nothing." She said to me, "Lo! do you not see opposite to you a great tower, built upon the waters, of splendid square stones?" For the tower was built square by those six young men who had come with her. But myriads of men were carrying stones to it, some dragging them from the depths, others removing them from the land, and they handed them to these six young men. They were taking them and building; and those. of the stones that were dragged out of the depths, they placed in the building just as they were: for they were polished and fitted exactly into the other stones, and became so united one with another that the lines of juncture could not be perceived. And in this way the building of the tower looked as if it were made out of one stone. T"
https://rfwma.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Shepherd-of-Hermas-Visions.pdf
 
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Heb 10:5 So when he came into the world, he said, “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me. "
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Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
 

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Hope this helps.

GOD (who becomes flesh) ......plus
MARY (who carries the flesh).....equals
JESUS (who is the flesh)

Jesus can say he was before Abraham, because he was GOD
Which is what he means when he says......"The father and I are one"
Jesus could not be in heaven before, because Mary hadn't been born
 

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Jesus could not be in heaven before, because Mary hadn't been born
You seem to be somewhat confused. Jesus was in Heaven from eternity past. His presence there had nothing to do with Mary being born. Jesus is the Creator.
 

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We are not to be imprisoned by dead stoned buildings.
They were never meant to be prisons. And they are perfectly acceptable to God, who gave David the blueprint for the temple in Jerusalem (built with stones). And God was please to call the temple "a house of prayer". God also has a perfect blueprint for a literal temple in Jerusalem after the Second Coming of Christ. So we need not scoff at buildings.

Now, while God cannot be confined to any building, whenever and wherever Christians gather, He is in the midst of them, with Christ and the Holy Spirit. At the same time, the Church is the spiritual Building of Christ and the Temple of the Holy Spirit.
 
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They were never meant to be prisons. And they are perfectly acceptable to God, who gave David the blueprint for the temple in Jerusalem (built with stones). And God was please to call the temple "a house of prayer". God also has a perfect blueprint for a literal temple in Jerusalem after the Second Coming of Christ. So we need not scoff at buildings.

Now, while God cannot be confined to any building, whenever and wherever Christians gather, He is in the midst of them, with Christ and the Holy Spirit. At the same time, the Church is the spiritual Building of Christ and the Temple of the Holy Spirit.
Love you my Brother Nehemiah -
i agree that God accepts our gathering together no matter where we meet.
Unfortunately, it has been deeply engrained into the minds of Christians that a 'Church' is a building - this is not from God.

i am sure you know why God forbid the Jews to build more then one Temple???
Do you know why our Lord - who knew that the Temple in Jerusalem was to be destroyed, never instructed His Apostles to build 'churches' made of stone, wood or other?

Refresh your heart and spirit with Acts chapter 7

7 is Sabbath Rest - "for on the seventh Day God Rested" - Amen
 

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You seem to be somewhat confused. Jesus was in Heaven from eternity past. His presence there had nothing to do with Mary being born. Jesus is the Creator.
No GOD is from eternity past.....Jesus wasn't born.....because Jesus is the name of the flesh that GOD was born into....so the Bible States.
Genesis 1: 1, Only GOD and his Spirit was there at creation....no mention of JESUS at all till the N/T..... he was referred to as the Lamb, the Lion. the rock, the Messiah, and those scriptures(O/T) point to his coming.....which didn't happen until Mary was told,(N/T).. now our saviour is with us for ever....
the difference is our understanding of the scriptures which is why we are on these threads...
 

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Everyone settle yourselves in realizing all mysteries will be revealed (understood) in our Father's time. One of the greatest mysteries will be the full understanding of what our Maker was saying when He declared, :I will be what I will be.;
 

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Hope this helps.

GOD (who becomes flesh) ......plus
MARY (who carries the flesh).....equals
JESUS (who is the flesh)

Jesus can say he was before Abraham, because he was GOD
Which is what he means when he says......"The father and I are one"
Jesus could not be in heaven before, because Mary hadn't been born
OK walknlight to what part of this do you disagree to
GOD becomes flesh
MARY gives birth to Jesus....or
JESUS is the flesh of GOD....
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OK walknlight to what part of this do you disagree to
GOD becomes flesh
MARY gives birth to Jesus....or
JESUS is the flesh of GOD....
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"GOD (who becomes flesh) ......plus
MARY (who carries the flesh).....equals
JESUS (who is the flesh)"
 

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"GOD (who becomes flesh) ......plus
MARY (who carries the flesh).....equals
JESUS (who is the flesh)"
Sorry I don't know what your trying to say....if your comparing the two descriptions...they state the same thing...not hard to understand
talk to me tell me why you disagree with them.
 
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Hi!
Sorry I don't know what your trying to say....if your comparing the two descriptions...they state the same thing...not hard to understand
talk to me tell me why you disagree with them.
Who is Mary the mother of?
 

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No GOD is from eternity past.....Jesus wasn't born.....because Jesus is the name of the flesh that GOD was born into....so the Bible States.
You are simply digging yourself deeper into a hole with this nonsensical statement. Before Jesus of Nazareth was born on earth He was THE ETERNAL WORD OF GOD. See John 1:1-3. And that means He was the eternal Son of God also.
 

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What is does God's Heart delight in the most - Jerusalem or His Temple? Both are not an option - Pick one.
Actually both are an option. Jerusalem will be redeemed and restored for eternity, and there will be an eternal temple within that Jerusalem on earth.
 
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Actually both are an option. Jerusalem will be redeemed and restored for eternity, and there will be an eternal temple within that Jerusalem on earth.
Good - Now which Jersusalem and Temple are you talking about?