Blueprint for the end

[randyk]

Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan 7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

The Roman Empire and the 10 horns is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section.

As I said, that isn't my view, and quoting it doesn't change my interpretation. From my perspective, the Roman Imperial Tradition is bound to the lineage of its ancient Eastern and Western territories, and that would not include the entire world. It would include only European Civilization. And that's why I don't agree with your view.

The antichrist plucks up 3 sections of the world which is mainly in the Arab nations for they rebelled against the operation of the world at that time where nothing could be taught or preached but the new age movement.

All nations will come together but the Roman Empire has the dominion.

I think the whole world worships the Beast because the world, at this time, is either pagan or apostate religion. And so, unbelief is prevalent and dominant in every nation, allowing the entire world to be said to be worshiping the Beast.

This doesn't, however, mean that the whole world is in the orbit of the Beast Empire. If they are saying, "Who can make war with him?," then they are clearly outside of his orbit and feel threatened by his empire.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

The fourth beast the Roman Empire covers the whole world for they devour the whole world so the 10 horns cover the world.

Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

Dan 2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
Dan 2:35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

The image of a man in Daniel 2 is the same as Daniel 7 bur referred to as in metals.

The 10 horns is the same as the 10 toes.

The first 3 beasts will never have physical dominion again and the Roman Empire does not lose her dominion until Jesus puts them down.

I agree that Dan 2 and 7 relay the same items. I think 3 of the European states will have to be overthrown by the Beast, or at least states with European origins. For example, the Beast may have to overthrow Russia, the US, and the UK in order to have dominion over the entire European Empire.

But the 3 previous empires referred to in Dan 2 and 7 represent Babylon, Persia, and Greece. When Rome is finally defeated for all time, when Christ comes again, Iraq, Iran, and Greece will apparently continue to have their own dominions. Europe will likely be integrated into the Kingdom of God, disposing of secular Europe forever. But this is pure speculation on my part.

Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and the Roman Empire has not fallen yet for as long as their ways are still on earth they have not fallen, and all 4 do not fall until Jesus puts down the dominion of the 10 horns that cover the earth.

Actually, the prophecies indicated they fell before each succeeding empire. Babylon fell before Persia, Persia before Greece, and Greece before Rome. Rome itself falls before the coming of Christ's Kingdom.

And they all show up at the beast kingdom.

Which Babylon represents human religion, the occult, and the kingdom of man.

Medo-Persia represents physical cruelty in war.

Greece represents human wisdom.

The Roman Empire represents pushing for power, territory.

I've not tried to characterize each empire in this way, though I'm sure they can be distinguished. The images God assigned to them give them a description of their character. Each resembles a particular part of the human anatomy. And each resembles the description Daniel gives them in ch. 7. But I do find trying to decipher this interesting.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

The 10 horns cover the earth so it is the world split in to ten sections with a leader in each section.

To have power over the earth does not necessarily suggest a single world power. Rather, it suggests this one particular empire on earth is the exclusive superpower. All other nations do obeisance to it, at least until Armageddon results. And that may be a rebellion by various powers in the East against the Antichrist Empire.

The 10 sections give their power to the beast and he gets control of the world because the 10 horns cover the whole earth.

 

[douggg]

Sell all your worldly goods and prepare for the end. Grab a large cardboard sign, 'The End is Here', and stand on the street corner. How many times have we heard this sad story about the 'end is near', how many times?

Amil believes that the end of the world at the time of Jesus's Second coming. Premil believes in Jesus's Second Coming. Then the 1000 year reign of Jesus on this present earth. Then one short lived rebellion of Satan. And the end of this present world, at the time the great white throne judgement takes place. I am Premil.

As far as being close to the end times events in the bible, the parable of the fig tree in Matthew 24:32, indicates we are very near.

1967 (Jerusalem the fig tree) + 70 years = 2037 Jesus returns by then.

or if by strength for a generation, Psalms 90:10...

1967 (Jerusalem the fig tree) + 80 years = 2048 Jesus returns by then.

specific predictable events coming next is the formation of the EU into a ten leader government structure, with one leader over them.

The one leader, the little horn, who must be a Jew. Must be a Jew in order to be anointed the King of Israel for awhile. That is what makes the person the Antichrist.


little horn (leader of Eu) > prince who shall come (following Gog/Magog > the Antichrist (anointed the King of Israel) > the revealed man of sin (ends his Antichrist period) > the beast (dictator of the EU, king of the western nations)

 

[Dino246]

Daniel’s vision identifies four kingdoms. Nothing in the vision suggests that these would be the only kingdoms that would exist, nor that all of human history is represented by them. This subject is deeply infected with speculation and groundless interpretation, and depends far too little on the actual text of Daniel.

 

[Blain]

Blueprint for the end.
Daniel 7 provided a blueprint for NT history, and Jesus confirmed it in his Olivet Discourse. The idea was that a 4th Kingdom, the Kingdom of Rome, or the "Roman Empire," would be the final great power on earth to play a role in final judgment on earth.

Jesus saw the fall of Jerusalem 1st, as a prelude to the evangelization, or warning to, the world. As Israel had been a "chosen nation," so the Roman Empire would become a kind of "chosen nation," creating many nations of faith in accordance with God's promises to Abraham.

Daniel saw the Roman Kingdom as continuing until the coming of Christ's Kingdom, the Kingdom of the "Son of Man." This would eventually become a Kingdom consisting of 10 major states. And in fact, throughout NT history, there have been a number of states populating both sections of the old Roman Empire, East and West.

The current move today towards European reunification speaks of this continuing move towards consolidating Europe under a single 10-state entity, dominating the world. The Antichrist, it is said, will have an overwhelming military superiority for 3.5 years.

But after this time period the kings from the East would, it seems, challenge this Antichristian Kingdom. And true to form, China is creating an incredibly powerful force on earth, capable of challenging a unified Europe. Even if the US and Russia, also European peoples, joined in with this European Union, China would be able to challenge it. What do you think?

This is very interesting I wonder about this one world order they are trying to establish and might it have something to do with the ten states you mentioned and then there is revelation which speaks of ten kings or rather it speaks of the beast in which the ten kings rise from.

 

[randyk]

This is very interesting I wonder about this one world order they are trying to establish and might it have something to do with the ten states you mentioned and then there is revelation which speaks of ten kings or rather it speaks of the beast in which the ten kings rise from.

Yea, the One World Order is an effort to unite human civilization behind Satan, which represents mankind living independent of God, living life as one pleases. Even the non-Christian world requires order, and they have devised schemes to take care of basic human needs without God. Communism does that through a dictatorship representing the People. Evolution does that by avoiding any supernatural explanations for the diversity of life and for the origins of life. Politically, the only order imposed is one that promotes unity on behalf of diversity, destroying any "narrow way."

I do believe the Antichrist Empire will comprise European Civilization, perhaps from Australia to Europe, including the Americas. But the world has shrunk, and the West needs to trade with the East, and vice versa. And so, we have unity of satanic sentiment across the world, but the main power will reside in Europe, I believe.

If you follow the path of ancient Rome, the Western branch experienced a kind of "death" when Rome fell in 476 AD. But in the East, the Byzantine Kingdom continued for a thousand years, until 1453 AD. In the meantime, the Holy Roman Empire gave a rebirth to Roman Civilization when the Pope crowned Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor.

From that time forward, Europe has had a new hybrid form of Roman Empire, separating the secular Christian powers from the religious leaders in the various states that evolved. At various times, Italy, France, Germany, Spain, and Austria have carried the flag for the Holy Roman Emperor. I feel confident these are some of the 10 states that will comprise the future Antichristian Empire. It likely will include the UK and Russia, and perhaps even the US and Canada. I don't know--I'm just speculating. But we're definitely heading in this direction, you think?

 

[Blain]

Yea, the One World Order is an effort to unite human civilization behind Satan, which represents mankind living independent of God, living life as one pleases. Even the non-Christian world requires order, and they have devised schemes to take care of basic human needs without God. Communism does that through a dictatorship representing the People. Evolution does that by avoiding any supernatural explanations for the diversity of life and for the origins of life. Politically, the only order imposed is one that promotes unity on behalf of diversity, destroying any "narrow way."

I do believe the Antichrist Empire will comprise European Civilization, perhaps from Australia to Europe, including the Americas. But the world has shrunk, and the West needs to trade with the East, and vice versa. And so, we have unity of satanic sentiment across the world, but the main power will reside in Europe, I believe.

If you follow the path of ancient Rome, the Western branch experienced a kind of "death" when Rome fell in 476 AD. But in the East, the Byzantine Kingdom continued for a thousand years, until 1453 AD. In the meantime, the Holy Roman Empire gave a rebirth to Roman Civilization when the Pope crowned Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor.

From that time forward, Europe has had a new hybrid form of Roman Empire, separating the secular Christian powers from the religious leaders in the various states that evolved. At various times, Italy, France, Germany, Spain, and Austria have carried the flag for the Holy Roman Emperor. I feel confident these are some of the 10 states that will comprise the future Antichristian Empire. It likely will include the UK and Russia, and perhaps even the US and Canada. I don't know--I'm just speculating. But we're definitely heading in this direction, you think?

I know Australia already is spouting the phrase new world order and has taken into a communist way of lifeno freedom no rights you either do as they say or pay the price this is just a foreshadow of what is to come and if the new world order gains ground and other countries begin to take this same method it is only a matter of time before the intichrist kingdom is put into place.

I also think europe is a major player in all this and I would even dare say the antichrist will rise from europe. Though this all is still in future we aren't there quite yet but it is all being set up I am focusing on Israel and Iran because that whole scenario is a huge piece of the puzzle

 

[randyk]

I know Australia already is spouting the phrase new world order and has taken into a communist way of lifeno freedom no rights you either do as they say or pay the price this is just a foreshadow of what is to come and if the new world order gains ground and other countries begin to take this same method it is only a matter of time before the intichrist kingdom is put into place.

I also think europe is a major player in all this and I would even dare say the antichrist will rise from europe. Though this all is still in future we aren't there quite yet but it is all being set up I am focusing on Israel and Iran because that whole scenario is a huge piece of the puzzle

I completely agree with you. Thank God He's giving us "eyes to see."

 

[Blain]

I completely agree with you. Thank God He's giving us "eyes to see."

Sorry I have been gone a while I have been in a storm lately one that has been very trying and has required me to simply trust in God the enemy has been attacking more and more as of late
We have been given the eyes to see but I also think we don't fully understand either. In regards to the tribulation the beast system the antichrist and also the rapture we have been given the pieces but I see so much diversity in understanding. This has always troubled me and is perhaps the most trying issue within the church especially pertaining to the rapture but one thing we all seem to agree on at least is that the stage is being set up for the tribulation.

A flood is coming, a vicious storm of darkness God's judgement is coming just like in the days of Noah the world doesn't see it or believe it is coming but it is and it will sweep them all in an unexpected fell swoop however regardless of how we believe the rapture will happen we need to properly prepare and I say properly because people seem to be doing this in different ways. Some act more like doomsday preppers stocking up on supplies and taking money out of the banks others prepare by not preparing believing it is still in the far future by several years thinking certain events or prophecies have to be fulfilled first but I truly believe more than ever we need to draw close to God and listen to the voice of wisdom that calls for understanding because all this is indeed on the horizon and at our doors dangerously so

 

[Jesusfollower]

We are near to the end times, Jacob's trouble coming this way. I have been warned about this in spirit. The NWO is growing very fast, they have started to modify the human genome with the covid shot. Musk from tesla is involved in trans-humanist activities wiring brains to machine, a total abomination. the covid pass is becoming a worldwide thing and is transforming itself gradually into the mark of the beast. The Jewish people are ready to rebuild the temple. The end times prophecies are unraveling before our very eyes.....Brothers in Christ, follow the events closely it is happening very fast now.

Peace be with you all.

JF