ABOUT THE BOOK OF JOB CHAPTER TWO

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Job became ill. People may say that when things go wrong, it’s bad. But not completely because in such a situation, you can learn a lot especially about the people you know, your family, your friends… Job’s wife is a good example: she tells Job to curse God and die. What a good help indeed! Job’s answer about what she says is clear: we must accept everything from God. It’s not because we are in trouble that we must go away from him. Then you get three men who know Job who come to comfort him. They can’t recognize him meaning he is in real trouble. They see his pain, they weep and stay with him seven days and nights without saying a word. They want to share his condition but they also show respect to him. It is definitely different from the attitude of Job’s wife. The next chapters will show them in a different way!
 

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They want to share his condition but they also show respect to him.
If you carefully read the comments of Job's "friends" they all accused him of having sinned, and therefore having to pay "the price". Even the man who was not included among his friends ended up accusing Job. So no one really showed Job any respect (other than God) who said that Job's friends had not spoken well of God.

And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. (Job 42:7)

The amazing thing is that Job probably wrote this book (later on) by divine inspiration, hence every word is properly recorded.
 

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If you carefully read the comments of Job's "friends" they all accused him of having sinned, and therefore having to pay "the price". Even the man who was not included among his friends ended up accusing Job. So no one really showed Job any respect (other than God) who said that Job's friends had not spoken well of God.

And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. (Job 42:7)

The amazing thing is that Job probably wrote this book (later on) by divine inspiration, hence every word is properly recorded.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/jun/28/philosophy-judaism


The Book of Job is one of the first documents in history to concentrate solely on how a just G-d can allow the suffering of innocents. Some scholars claim it might have been written in the 5th century BCE; and some traditional Jewish views even claim Moses was the author of the story.


https://www.thomasnelsonbibles.com/blog/who-wrote-the-book-of-job/

Authorship

The author is uncertain. The name of the author is not indicated in the book. That Job himself could not have written all of it is shown by the inclusion of the record of his death (Job 42:17 KJV). Some have suggested that Moses wrote the account. This hypothesis would explain its inclusion in the canon, but it is mere speculation.
 

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If you carefully read the comments of Job's "friends" they all accused him of having sinned, and therefore having to pay "the price". Even the man who was not included among his friends ended up accusing Job. So no one really showed Job any respect (other than God) who said that Job's friends had not spoken well of God.

And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath. (Job 42:7)

The amazing thing is that Job probably wrote this book (later on) by divine inspiration, hence every word is properly recorded.
In Chapter two, they show proper respect. After, that's another story.
 
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The Book of Job is also Prophetic and is the Revelation from God for the Second Coming of Christ.
 

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Could you give details?
 
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Could you give details?
Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you! 2Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten. 3Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have heaped up treasure in the last days. 4Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabbath. 5You have lived on the earth in pleasure and luxury; you have fattened your hearts as in a day of slaughter. 6You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you.

Be Patient and Persevering
7Therefore be patient, brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. 8You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord [f]is at hand.

9Do not grumble against one another, brethren, lest you be condemned. Behold, the Judge is standing at the door! 10My brethren, take the prophets, who spoke in the name of the Lord, as an example of suffering and patience. 11Indeed we count them blessed who endure. You have heard of the perseverance of Job and seen the end intended by the Lord—that the Lord is very compassionate and merciful.

12But above all, my brethren, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or with any other oath. But let your “Yes” be “Yes,” and your “No,” “No,” lest you fall into judgment.

Meeting Specific Needs
13Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing psalms. 14Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. 15And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. 17Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain; and it did not rain on the land for three years and six months. 18And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth produced its fruit.


Bring Back the Erring One
19Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
 

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In Chapter two, they show proper respect. After, that's another story.
Yes. They mourned with Job for all his losses. Then they decided that Job must be a sinner and a hypocrite. In their thinking, how could any righteous man be so severely punished?
 

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and some traditional Jewish views even claim Moses was the author of the story.
Why not allow Job to be the writer and God to be the Author who gave Job all the words recorded therein? God singled out Noah, Daniel, and Job as the three righteous men in Ezekiel whose righteousness would not save wicked Israel.

No one knows the authorship for certain, but we know this for a fact -- this book was divinely inspired and is an integral part of the Hebrew canon. And the narrative is definitely not legendary (as some claim).
 
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Why not allow Job to be the writer and God to be the Author who gave Job all the words recorded therein? God singled out Noah, Daniel, and Job as the three righteous men in Ezekiel whose righteousness would not save wicked Israel.

No one knows the authorship for certain, but we know this for a fact -- this book was divinely inspired and is an integral part of the Hebrew canon. And the narrative is definitely not legendary (as some claim).
Can you SEE why God combined these three Prophets?
 

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Job 6:2 Oh that my grief were throughly weighed, and my calamity laid in the balances together!
Job 6:3 For now it would be heavier than the sand of the sea: therefore my words are swallowed up.
Job 6:4 For the arrows of the Almighty are within me, the poison whereof drinketh up my spirit: the terrors of God do set themselves in array against me.

Job sure knows what he is talking about. I hope his friends are taking notes.
 

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Job 6:25 How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove?
Job 6:26 Do ye imagine to reprove words, and the speeches of one that is desperate, which are as wind?
Job 6:27 Yea, ye overwhelm the fatherless, and ye dig a pit for your friend.
Job 6:28 Now therefore be content, look upon me; for it is evident unto you if I lie.
Job 6:29 Return, I pray you, let it not be iniquity; yea, return again, my righteousness is in it.
Job 6:30 Is there iniquity in my tongue? cannot my taste discern perverse things?

Can anyone answer Jobs question?
 

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Job 9:13 If God will not withdraw his anger, the proud helpers do stoop under him.
Job 9:14 How much less shall I answer him, and choose out my words to reason with him?
Job 9:15 Whom, though I were righteous, yet would I not answer, but I would make supplication to my judge.
Job 9:16 If I had called, and he had answered me; yet would I not believe that he had hearkened unto my voice.
Job 9:17 For he breaketh me with a tempest, and multiplieth my wounds without cause.

Fun stuff!
 

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Yes. They mourned with Job for all his losses. Then they decided that Job must be a sinner and a hypocrite. In their thinking, how could any righteous man be so severely punished?
Remember the super apostles at the time of Paul or the religious leaders at the time of Jesus.
 

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Yes. They mourned with Job for all his losses. Then they decided that Job must be a sinner and a hypocrite. In their thinking, how could any righteous man be so severely punished?
Sometimes jealousy may push people in some directions! But they received God's condamnation!
 

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There is always something to learn about people’s attitudes, may it be right or wrong ! It may be difficult to understand sometimes but it helps us to reflect and to act in one way or another, remembering how people reacted in different situations. When it is present in our minds we may reflect again and again from time to time and help us to be mentally stronger and staying humble at the same time. We always have the choice and the decision is ours !
 

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Speaking with job would be like opening a book of value, full of all the events of his life!
 
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There is always something to learn about people’s attitudes, may it be right or wrong ! It may be difficult to understand sometimes but it helps us to reflect and to act in one way or another, remembering how people reacted in different situations. When it is present in our minds we may reflect again and again from time to time and help us to be mentally stronger and staying humble at the same time. We always have the choice and the decision is ours !
Which is why we need to always forgive and pray for one another - amen.
 

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Speaking with job would be like opening a book of value, full of all the events of his life!

Yep, lots of value.

Job 7:12 Am I a sea, or a whale, that thou settest a watch over me?
Job 7:13 When I say, My bed shall comfort me, my couch shall ease my complaint;
Job 7:14 Then thou scarest me with dreams, and terrifiest me through visions:
Job 7:15 So that my soul chooseth strangling, and death rather than my life.
Job 7:16 I loathe it; I would not live alway: let me alone; for my days are vanity.
Job 7:17 What is man, that thou shouldest magnify him? and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him?
Job 7:18 And that thou shouldest visit him every morning, and try him every moment?
Job 7:19 How long wilt thou not depart from me, nor let me alone till I swallow down my spittle?
Job 7:20 I have sinned; what shall I do unto thee, O thou preserver of men? why hast thou set me as a mark against thee, so that I am a burden to myself?




Job 9:13 If God will not withdraw his anger, the proud helpers do stoop under him.
Job 9:14 How much less shall I answer him, and choose out my words to reason with him?
Job 9:15 Whom, though I were righteous, yet would I not answer, but I would make supplication to my judge.
Job 9:16 If I had called, and he had answered me; yet would I not believe that he had hearkened unto my voice.
Job 9:17 For he breaketh me with a tempest, and multiplieth my wounds without cause.
Job 9:18 He will not suffer me to take my breath, but filleth me with bitterness.
Job 9:19 If I speak of strength, lo, he is strong: and if of judgment, who shall set me a time to plead?
Job 9:20 If I justify myself, mine own mouth shall condemn me: if I say, I am perfect, it shall also prove me perverse.
Job 9:21 Though I were perfect, yet would I not know my soul: I would despise my life.
Job 9:22 This is one thing, therefore I said it, He destroyeth the perfect and the wicked.
Job 9:23 If the scourge slay suddenly, he will laugh at the trial of the innocent.
Job 9:24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
 
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