About the book of Job
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I see what you're saying. Example:
Job said:
Job 14:7 NLT - "Even a tree has more hope! If it is cut down, it will sprout again and grow new branches."
Eliphaz replied:
Job 15:2 NLT - "A wise man wouldn't answer with such empty talk! You are nothing but a windbag."
I suppose that it is fair to say that Job was discouraged by being called a name. However, Eliphaz wasn't the only name-caller in the Bible.
Jesus said:
Matthew 12:34 NKJV - "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks."
Perhaps it is fair to acknowledge all of our ideas regarding Job. It is sad (for me) to see that Job claims that he has "no hope." To me, after having my incredible Spiritual Experience, I would NEVER say such words. It is impossible! I know that I could be tortured, but I would long for my death knowing, fully, that this is where my hope resides. Why? Because my relationship with God is apparently a bit different from Jobs's relationship with the Lord. (This is not to suggest that I am better than Job . . . I would never claim such a thing.)
Psalm 116:15 NKJV - "Precious in the sight of the LORD Is the death of His saints."
I would prefer not to suffer in my death, but if I should, I will not curse God. I know that regardless of how I die, the Peace and Love found in Heaven is such an incredible reward that none of us will care about how we died in this physical world. I assure all of us that when we enter the gates of Heaven, the way we died and the pain that we might suffer will be totally and utterly inconsequential. Trust me on this, for this, I know as well as I know my own reflection.
Job said:
Job 14:7 NLT - "Even a tree has more hope! If it is cut down, it will sprout again and grow new branches."
Eliphaz replied:
Job 15:2 NLT - "A wise man wouldn't answer with such empty talk! You are nothing but a windbag."
I suppose that it is fair to say that Job was discouraged by being called a name. However, Eliphaz wasn't the only name-caller in the Bible.
Jesus said:
Matthew 12:34 NKJV - "Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks."
Perhaps it is fair to acknowledge all of our ideas regarding Job. It is sad (for me) to see that Job claims that he has "no hope." To me, after having my incredible Spiritual Experience, I would NEVER say such words. It is impossible! I know that I could be tortured, but I would long for my death knowing, fully, that this is where my hope resides. Why? Because my relationship with God is apparently a bit different from Jobs's relationship with the Lord. (This is not to suggest that I am better than Job . . . I would never claim such a thing.)
Psalm 116:15 NKJV - "Precious in the sight of the LORD Is the death of His saints."
I would prefer not to suffer in my death, but if I should, I will not curse God. I know that regardless of how I die, the Peace and Love found in Heaven is such an incredible reward that none of us will care about how we died in this physical world. I assure all of us that when we enter the gates of Heaven, the way we died and the pain that we might suffer will be totally and utterly inconsequential. Trust me on this, for this, I know as well as I know my own reflection.
That Mary was not identified as the Magdalene 
In fact, it was much more likely Lazarus and Martha's
sister, Mary, a woman of the city of Bethany, as described in Luke 7:37, and here, from John 12:
1 Six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus
had raised from the dead. 2 Here a dinner was given in Jesus’ honor. Martha served, while
Lazarus was among those reclining at the table with him. 3 Then Mary took about a pint
of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with
her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
In fact, it was much more likely Lazarus and Martha's sister, Mary, a woman of the city of Bethany, as described in Luke 7:37, and here, from John 12:
1 Six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus
had raised from the dead. 2 Here a dinner was given in Jesus’ honor. Martha served, while
Lazarus was among those reclining at the table with him. 3 Then Mary took about a pint
of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with
her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
Eliphaz replied:
Job 15:2 NLT - "A wise man wouldn't answer with such empty talk! You are nothing but a windbag."
“Should a wise man utter vain knowledge, and fill his belly with the east wind? (according to the interlinear translation)
That’s a really good example. How is it possible for Eliphaz to speak like that whereas in the beginning of chapter 4 he recognizes that Job helped a lot of people through his advice. He was really short-minded (Someone who's small-minded has a narrow perspective or very firm, unchangeable opinions on things. ... If you're small-minded, you have a biased view of the world, and you're probably not very tolerant of those with different opinions or experiences according to the dictionary).
Job 15:2 NLT - "A wise man wouldn't answer with such empty talk! You are nothing but a windbag."
“Should a wise man utter vain knowledge, and fill his belly with the east wind? (according to the interlinear translation)
That’s a really good example. How is it possible for Eliphaz to speak like that whereas in the beginning of chapter 4 he recognizes that Job helped a lot of people through his advice. He was really short-minded (Someone who's small-minded has a narrow perspective or very firm, unchangeable opinions on things. ... If you're small-minded, you have a biased view of the world, and you're probably not very tolerant of those with different opinions or experiences according to the dictionary).
I hear you. In no way is the following meant to brag, but I've been writing a personal commentary on the Bible, but in a very distinct way that mostly revolves around Colossians 2:9-15, the Circumcision of Christ. From the book of Job, I pull out vastly different ideas and concepts, such as the following notes (or, "personal commentary).
Job 17:4 NLT - "You have closed their minds to understanding, but do not let them triumph." - Although this is Job likely talking about his three friends that don't seem to be soothing or comforting him, this is a glimpse of the Jews and their hardened hearts. Or, this is referring to all of humanity and their Indwelling Curse of Adam and Eve.
Or, I point out other passages such as:
Job 36:31 - Tanakh: "By these things He controls peoples; He gives food in abundance." - The NLT translation uses the word "nourishes" and the footnotes include the possibility of "governs" whereas the Tanakh uses the word "controls."
As in verse 31 above, I am also fascinated by how the Lord controls people . . . including our actions and thoughts. I think that there are some incredibly heavy concepts and ideas that we should be more considering of than others.
The Lord Takes Responsibility
Job 42:2 CSB - "I know that you can do anything and no plan of yours can be thwarted." - God is in control of all things and it really doesn't become more clear than what Job said above.
Job 17:4 NLT - "You have closed their minds to understanding, but do not let them triumph." - Although this is Job likely talking about his three friends that don't seem to be soothing or comforting him, this is a glimpse of the Jews and their hardened hearts. Or, this is referring to all of humanity and their Indwelling Curse of Adam and Eve.
Or, I point out other passages such as:
Job 36:31 - Tanakh: "By these things He controls peoples; He gives food in abundance." - The NLT translation uses the word "nourishes" and the footnotes include the possibility of "governs" whereas the Tanakh uses the word "controls."
As in verse 31 above, I am also fascinated by how the Lord controls people . . . including our actions and thoughts. I think that there are some incredibly heavy concepts and ideas that we should be more considering of than others.
The Lord Takes Responsibility
Job 42:2 CSB - "I know that you can do anything and no plan of yours can be thwarted." - God is in control of all things and it really doesn't become more clear than what Job said above.
That Mary was not identified as the Magdalene In fact, it was much more likely Lazarus and Martha's
sister, Mary, a woman of the city of Bethany, as described in Luke 7:37, and here, from John 12:
1 Six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus
had raised from the dead. 2 Here a dinner was given in Jesus’ honor. Martha served, while
Lazarus was among those reclining at the table with him. 3 Then Mary took about a pint
of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with
her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
In fact, it was much more likely Lazarus and Martha's sister, Mary, a woman of the city of Bethany, as described in Luke 7:37, and here, from John 12:
1 Six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus
had raised from the dead. 2 Here a dinner was given in Jesus’ honor. Martha served, while
Lazarus was among those reclining at the table with him. 3 Then Mary took about a pint
of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with
her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
Matthew 26 : 6-13 :
The name of the woman is not mentionned
Mark 14:3-9 :
The name of the woman is not mentionned
Luke 7:36-50 :
The name of the woman is not mentionned except the fact that she was a sinner
John 12:1-8
Mary, the sister of martha and lazarus
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It is a customary assumption Mary was a fairly common name; the
New Testament mentions six different women with the name Mary.
Mary Magdalene has been named in places where there is no reason to do so.
Although the RCC is most often seen as an original perpetrator of this mix-up...
Since Pope Gregory (540 – 604) gave a homily in Rome that pronounced that Mary
Magdalene, Luke’s unnamed sinner, and Mary of Bethany were the same person.
Mary was a fairly common name; the New Testament mentions six different women with the name Mary.
Mary Magdalene has been named in places where there is no reason to do so.
Although the RCC is most often seen as an original perpetrator of this mix-up...
Since Pope Gregory (540 – 604) gave a homily in Rome that pronounced that Mary
Magdalene, Luke’s unnamed sinner, and Mary of Bethany were the same person.
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So, God's worst enemy in the universe walks up to Him and says "hey God I want to screw with one of your kids" and God tells him "have at it".
I just can't imagine any earthly parent who loves their children allowing their worst enemy to harm their kids.
Why does God get a pass on that?
I just can't imagine any earthly parent who loves their children allowing their worst enemy to harm their kids.
Why does God get a pass on that?
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Job had TWO personal problems: "Behemoth" (a tendency to rely on HIS OWN personal Strength/Wisdom, and "Leviathan" (Personal PRIDE).
The book illustrates HOW FAR God is willing to go to get us to REALIZE our spiritual problems, and repent of them (As Job did Job 42:6). And it gives insight into how God will USE satan surgically to accomplish His goals.
Job, of course, WAS NOT a "Born AGain believer" - NOBODY WAS then. He did, however have FAITH.
The book illustrates HOW FAR God is willing to go to get us to REALIZE our spiritual problems, and repent of them (As Job did Job 42:6). And it gives insight into how God will USE satan surgically to accomplish His goals.
Job, of course, WAS NOT a "Born AGain believer" - NOBODY WAS then. He did, however have FAITH.
That's a great and legitimate question. My extremely short answer would be this: The Book of Job is a demonstration of Power, and not that of Satan, but that of God. The Lord, in His incredible Power, is able to control all events, including the restoration of Job and his belongings. This is the number one lesson to be gained from Job. From that point downward, that could be any number of explanations.
As said, this is the short explanation, but it is what I have to offer at this point.
As said, this is the short explanation, but it is what I have to offer at this point.
Absolutely, in fact, I'll demonstrate the control of God over Isreal, which is the REAL reason for why the Jewish religious leaders couldn't accept Jesus. It was for one reason only and any other reason is elusive:
Romans 11:7-8 NLT - "So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have--the ones God has chosen--but the hearts of the rest were hardened. 8 As the Scriptures say, "God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear."
Romans 11:7-8 NLT - "So this is the situation: Most of the people of Israel have not found the favor of God they are looking for so earnestly. A few have--the ones God has chosen--but the hearts of the rest were hardened. 8 As the Scriptures say, "God has put them into a deep sleep. To this day he has shut their eyes so they do not see, and closed their ears so they do not hear."
I hear what you're saying and appreciate your offering. Have you ever thought about king David and how he was being taught by the Spirit from his mother's breast? My point is that not all people are required to be "born again." David was always Righteous and Holy. And this demonstrates Exoduce 33:19, which is that the Lord can Purify anyone He so chooses, at any time, any place . . . no questions asked.
Exodus 33:19 KJV - "And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy."
And David:
Psalm 22:9 NLT - "Yet you brought me safely from my mother's womb and led me to trust you at my mother's breast."
Exodus 33:19 KJV - "And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy."
And David:
Psalm 22:9 NLT - "Yet you brought me safely from my mother's womb and led me to trust you at my mother's breast."
Except, of course, for being a MURDERER, and an Adulterer. WHat David always did RIGHT, though, was when GOd would convict him of SIN, he'd roll over and repent.
And the MEANS by which the God could "Purify anyone He so chooses" was the perfect SIN OFFERING of Jesus on the cross. God could FORGIVE (which only requires a decision) of course, but purification requires BLOOD to be shed.
And the MEANS by which the God could "Purify anyone He so chooses" was the perfect SIN OFFERING of Jesus on the cross. God could FORGIVE (which only requires a decision) of course, but purification requires BLOOD to be shed.
Our behavior is not what makes a person Righteous and Holy. It is the Circumcision of Christ, and this all points back to Abraham and the Covenant of Circumcision in Genesis chapter 17.
Below is the explanation of the Gospel, and not the mere description that people cling to.
Colossians 2:11-15 NLT - "When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. 12 For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead. 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. 14 He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. 15 In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross."
The entire Bible revolves around the Effectual Acts of Christ. It isn't your fault for not being aware of Colossians 2:9-15 (yes, the first two verses explain the remaining 5), for the best of teachers do not teach these Seven Perfect Verses, and for remarkable reasons.
Respect to you . . . may God Bless you with the greatest of Blessing there is.
Below is the explanation of the Gospel, and not the mere description that people cling to.
Colossians 2:11-15 NLT - "When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. 12 For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead. 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. 14 He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. 15 In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross."
The entire Bible revolves around the Effectual Acts of Christ. It isn't your fault for not being aware of Colossians 2:9-15 (yes, the first two verses explain the remaining 5), for the best of teachers do not teach these Seven Perfect Verses, and for remarkable reasons.
Respect to you . . . may God Bless you with the greatest of Blessing there is.
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