Can someone here explain to me what is wrong with giving to the poor?
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Yes, I am a Christian.
Yes, I do get angry when people flaunt their fake "Christianity," pretending to be Christian while hating Jesus and everything he preached about.
Perhaps I need to calm down, but Paul said it's better to be hot or cold than luke warm, so I'm not sure it's such a bad thing for me to be angry.
Yes, I do get angry when people flaunt their fake "Christianity," pretending to be Christian while hating Jesus and everything he preached about.
Perhaps I need to calm down, but Paul said it's better to be hot or cold than luke warm, so I'm not sure it's such a bad thing for me to be angry.
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Merriam Webster defines "liberal" thusly:
Liberal (adjective)
a: marked by generosity : a liberal giver
b: given or provided in a generous and openhanded way : a liberal meal
If you don't like a worldly source, the Bible has these things to say:
Proverbs 11:25 A liberal man will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.
1 Titus 6:18 They are to do good, to be rich in good deeds, liberal and generous.
Any person who is not liberal isn't a Christian.
If you want to dispel liberal attributes, you are a friend of Satan.
Liberal (adjective)
a: marked by generosity : a liberal giver
b: given or provided in a generous and openhanded way : a liberal meal
If you don't like a worldly source, the Bible has these things to say:
Proverbs 11:25 A liberal man will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.
1 Titus 6:18 They are to do good, to be rich in good deeds, liberal and generous.
Any person who is not liberal isn't a Christian.
If you want to dispel liberal attributes, you are a friend of Satan.
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What I sense from your above posts is that you disagree with, or you don't believe in, the idea of personal property. That is the bigger issue I see here. A person living on benefits is living on other people's property/communal property which has been allocated for a specific purpose. Trump/Bezos/Gates/Obama they are living off their own property and they can do whatever they want with it, as they are not taking other people's property. Do you think there should be limitations on how they use their property? What you want is socialism, even though you say you are a Republican, is for the poor person to forcibly get more of Trump/Bezos/Gates/Obama's property and spread that around. Also you take somehow take offense, or you are in denial, that there are some people who scam benefits (that is my main point). I do think Jesus would want Trump/Bezos/Gates/Obama to give away more through spiritual calling, yes.
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I would say that if someone is apparently well-fed, clothed, and sheltered then their economic status is irrelevant. Being financially poor isn't really a problem to God, actually the Bible warns a lot about having too much money.
If someone is clearly in dire need, such as in famine, injured, unclothed, sick, or unsheltered in dangerous conditions, and unable to provide for themselves then it's time to step in and provide some form of assistance. It doesn't need to be monetary assistance; teaching someone to overcome their struggles and/or hardships on their own is a much greater blessing upon them.
Also, someone getting on the Internet and claiming to be poor isn't a valid reason to give them money. Anyone can claim to be anyone and it's unsafe to electronically wire money to strangers because that can reveal personally identifiable information.
If someone is clearly in dire need, such as in famine, injured, unclothed, sick, or unsheltered in dangerous conditions, and unable to provide for themselves then it's time to step in and provide some form of assistance. It doesn't need to be monetary assistance; teaching someone to overcome their struggles and/or hardships on their own is a much greater blessing upon them.
Also, someone getting on the Internet and claiming to be poor isn't a valid reason to give them money. Anyone can claim to be anyone and it's unsafe to electronically wire money to strangers because that can reveal personally identifiable information.
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I'm definitely not a liberal now and never will be and I share that trait with most true Christians. By saying "Any person who is not liberal isn't a Christian" means you have taken it upon yourself to condemn many people. The problem with that is it's Jesus job to judge anyone's salvation which is something you should already know.
I had my suspicions that you were just a liberal plant (which you have now confirmed). You are one of several on here and I don't waste much time with them and I will do the same with you.
I had my suspicions that you were just a liberal plant (which you have now confirmed). You are one of several on here and I don't waste much time with them and I will do the same with you.
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Might help if you don't cherry pick Scripture. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 20:15). If you don't think abortionists will end up in hell you better take a look into the Book again.
The Bible says "Those who do not work don't deserve to eat". It also says " The poor you will have with you always." Obviously the Word makes a distinction between those not willing to work and those who cannot work. So why are you having difficult understanding it?
We had a poster here who admitted to being gay. I don't know if he's still here, he and I had some wonderful private talks. I don't condemn homosexuality or worldly people, God does. That doesn't mean we don't try to reach them with the Gospel. Scientists?! You mean disagreeing with Fauci? I hardly think that has anything to with spiritual matters. lol
You don't think taking money and giving it to people who refuse to work for a living isn't a misuse of wealth? We had couple in our church that were living off the gov't and bragging about it. Both were able bodied. The women of the church gave her a big baby shower trying to help the couple out, thinking they were in need. Only a sick person doesn't wish to help those truly in need. But people who are liberal, like you, try to look holier than thou, when you full well know we are discussing people like the couple above. Americans as a whole and around the world are known as the most giving, the first on the scene in any disaster, even when those countries refuse help. So I don't know who you think you're preaching at, but no one here doesn't wish to help the needy and do all we can to do so.
More liberal foolishness, come legally, the same as everyone else. I came here from Canada, legally. I paid my way, I obeyed the law, I came legally. I'm not allowed to live off the gov't. Why should illegals come in and be allowed to do so? Do you know who helped my family come into the country legally, the Catholics. And when I went to their offices in the city they had all kinds of people who don't speak English that they were helping to come legally into the country. Yes, it was the church, not the gov't that was helping immigrants.
Now you're doing what you blamed others for doing, judging.
That sounds like a comment from a 15 yr old. It's gross? No, it's sin and if you claimed to love or care about that person you'd tell them the truth. Now I will agree, it's not up to us to do the convicting, but we need to share the Word with them so they will not be lost and in bondage.
Why would you condemn wealth? David, Solomon, Job, the women that supported Jesus ministry were all wealthy. There is nothing wrong with wealth, greed is the issue. I don't know one person that doesn't like having money, we need it to live. But you're talking about greed, and that's a different subject.
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The other people the Bible is talking about is those who refuse to work!! It's not talking about disabled, it's not talking about Vets who can't work, it's not talking about those who are looking and can't find jobs. So stop stewing everyone together like you don't know who this is talking to!! If you CAN work and you REFUSE to work, you DON'T DESERVE TO EAT!! Simple!!
Lady no body here has a reason to be ashamed, other than you! You're making up utter nonsense. People who can work should. Any sane person agrees with that. If you allow them to take from the gov't you're taking away from the actual poor, which is who you were talking about in the first place!!
Lady no body here has a reason to be ashamed, other than you! You're making up utter nonsense. People who can work should. Any sane person agrees with that. If you allow them to take from the gov't you're taking away from the actual poor, which is who you were talking about in the first place!!
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Looks like you omitted a very critical word -- ILLEGAL. "Illegal immigrants" are law-breakers and should be either (a) jailed or (b) deported post haste. Are you free to break the laws of the land? No. But migrant invaders by the millions are being encouraged to break the immigration laws. While those who wish to immigrate lawfully have to wait sometimes for years before being granted their request.
Now getting back to the migrant invaders at the southern border of the United States, the Democrats are deliberately handing over the border to the drug cartels so that they will have millions of potential voters in the future, while lawful citizens give up their jobs for these criminals. And taxpayers are paying billions of dollars to keep this scam going. This is lawlessness and evil deeds.
Getting back to giving to the poor, there are times when that is the absolutely righteous thing to do. But when healthy, able-bodied adults choose to become parasites, then they should be totally discouraged from going on with their parasitic behavior.
Now getting back to the migrant invaders at the southern border of the United States, the Democrats are deliberately handing over the border to the drug cartels so that they will have millions of potential voters in the future, while lawful citizens give up their jobs for these criminals. And taxpayers are paying billions of dollars to keep this scam going. This is lawlessness and evil deeds.
Getting back to giving to the poor, there are times when that is the absolutely righteous thing to do. But when healthy, able-bodied adults choose to become parasites, then they should be totally discouraged from going on with their parasitic behavior.
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