Are you saved? If Yes, What have you believed to be saved?

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Blain

Blain

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Blik said:
It is simple to know that we are not God's who has control of the heavens, only God has that control. But that does not mean that we are to close our eyes and refuse to listen to all the many things God tells us about salvation.
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True and then you have to consider how we tend to put our own thinking into salvation and what it takes and means to be saved instead of God's.

Sadly salvation is indeed watered down and divided I am grateful I came to him knowing very little it was easy and beautiful for me but I worry for others who grew up with all kinds of doctrines and over complicate salvation
 
Blik

Blik

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Blain said:
True and then you have to consider how we tend to put our own thinking into salvation and what it takes and means to be saved instead of God's.

Sadly salvation is indeed watered down and divided I am grateful I came to him knowing very little it was easy and beautiful for me but I worry for others who grew up with all kinds of doctrines and over complicate salvation
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It is not easy to learn God's ways of the gospel because man has added their doctrines for 2,000 years.

To protect myself I make it a habit never t accept one interpretation of a scripture unless it is verifies by another scripture. The Lord never disagrees with himself whether He is speaking in the OT or the NT.
 
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Hann57

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Blain said:
something tells me @Hann57 doesn't follow Christ I have seen members of the Paul cult before
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Somth
Blik said:
It is simple to know that we are not God's who has control of the heavens, only God has that control. But that does not mean that we are to close our eyes and refuse to listen to all the many things God tells us about salvation.
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"It is simple to know that we are not God's" ? Anyone who is saved belongs to God
 
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Hann57

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Blain said:
True and then you have to consider how we tend to put our own thinking into salvation and what it takes and means to be saved instead of God's.

Sadly salvation is indeed watered down and divided I am grateful I came to him knowing very little it was easy and beautiful for me but I worry for others who grew up with all kinds of doctrines and over complicate salvation
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I notice you don't come right out with how you got saved, if you are really saved. That is the key.
 
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1 John 5:11 - And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
 
Blik

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Hann57 said:
Somth

"It is simple to know that we are not God's" ? Anyone who is saved belongs to God
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oops!! That apostrophe had no business creeping in where it does not belong. I have naughty fingers.
 
ResidentAlien

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John 3:3-6 and verse 12:

"Jesus answered and said to him, 'Most assuredly I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.' Nicodemus said to Him, 'How can a man be born, being old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?' Jesus answered, 'Most assuredly I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.' "

"If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?"

John the Baptist baptized. Jesus' followers baptized. Jesus taught baptism. I wonder if there might be something to it?
 
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Blain said:
you have to consider how we tend to put our own thinking into salvation and what it takes and means to be saved instead of God's.
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See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception [pseudo-intellectual babble], according to the tradition [and musings] of mere men, following the elementary principles of this world, rather than following [the truth—the teachings of] Christ.
 
Blain

Blain

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Hann57 said:
I notice you don't come right out with how you got saved, if you are really saved. That is the key.
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Apparently you must have missed it but I gave you my testimony of how I got saved so let me tell you again. I came to him with a meek and broken heart like a small child.
To go into more detail I was broken and in tears I longed to know what it is like to be loved and to feel loved I was alone in my room at night I looked at my life and everything I owned and it was trash to me I honestly didn't care if I lived or died and I cried out to him begging him to come into my heart I even tried to bargain with him offering him all I owned and everything I was if he would only come into my heart and show me what it is like to be loved I went to bed that night thinking myself in my tears he won't answer me I wouldn't answer me as soon as I woke up I was filled with life, not energy but life itself and I am someone who requires a lot of caffiene to get going in the morning but I leaped out of bed and began dancing in joy in happy tears thanking him over and over again.

From then on it was a love story with him and I I treasured every second I spent with him and when I read the word it was satisfying to my soul as if reading food being fed for the first time. I told you before he and I share a very intimate and very close relationship.
Jesus is my precious beloved my hearts yearning he makes me bleed love for him longing to hold him in my arms with desperate longing to bury my face in his arms and express with words that this tongue cannot speak my affection and love for him.

I answered you now you tell me who is he to you and what makes you think you are saved? The ball is in your court
 
Blain

Blain

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Hann57 said:
Somth

"It is simple to know that we are not God's" ? Anyone who is saved belongs to God
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I never said this blik was the one who said this please don't misquote me
 
Blain

Blain

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ok now it makes sense. I was curious about @Hann57 so I checked his user page it says he is not Christian and he has two people who follow him one of them is banned which isn't a good sign. So no he is not saved.
 
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ImageofGod

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not saved? or listening to man. to their teachings - not to Christ.
 
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1 Corinthians 3
Divisions in the Church

1But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. 2I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, 3for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?
5What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. 6I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. 8He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field, God’s building.
 
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Grandpa

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We are saved by Grace through faith.

We aren't saved by trying to believe words written in a book.

We are saved by believing that the Lord Jesus Christ has the ABILITY to save us from our condition and calling on Him for His Help.


After we are saved, we begin to understand the words written in the book. We believe these words because we have experienced them.


To try and say that people MUST believe before God acts is ignorant, in my opinion. Where did your belief come from in the first place?

John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.


This way, scripture is absolutely True. Salvation is a gift. Grace is a gift. Faith is a gift. Everything needful for Salvation is a Gift of God. And not from the work of people.
 
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Hann57

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Blain said:
Apparently you must have missed it but I gave you my testimony of how I got saved so let me tell you again. I came to him with a meek and broken heart like a small child.
To go into more detail I was broken and in tears I longed to know what it is like to be loved and to feel loved I was alone in my room at night I looked at my life and everything I owned and it was trash to me I honestly didn't care if I lived or died and I cried out to him begging him to come into my heart I even tried to bargain with him offering him all I owned and everything I was if he would only come into my heart and show me what it is like to be loved I went to bed that night thinking myself in my tears he won't answer me I wouldn't answer me as soon as I woke up I was filled with life, not energy but life itself and I am someone who requires a lot of caffiene to get going in the morning but I leaped out of bed and began dancing in joy in happy tears thanking him over and over again.

From then on it was a love story with him and I I treasured every second I spent with him and when I read the word it was satisfying to my soul as if reading food being fed for the first time. I told you before he and I share a very intimate and very close relationship.
Jesus is my precious beloved my hearts yearning he makes me bleed love for him longing to hold him in my arms with desperate longing to bury my face in his arms and express with words that this tongue cannot speak my affection and love for him.

I answered you now you tell me who is he to you and what makes you think you are saved? The ball is in your court
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I have showed you the gospel over and over. Asking Jesus into you heart is not the gospel according to the scriptures.
You have to believe the gospel given to Paul 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4.
 
Blain

Blain

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ImageofGod said:
1 Corinthians 3
Divisions in the Church

1But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. 2I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, 3for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way? 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not being merely human?
5What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. 6I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. 8He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field, God’s building.
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If I may ask who are you addressing this to?
 
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Hann57

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Grandpa said:
We are saved by Grace through faith.

We aren't saved by trying to believe words written in a book.

We are saved by believing that the Lord Jesus Christ has the ABILITY to save us from our condition and calling on Him for His Help.


After we are saved, we begin to understand the words written in the book. We believe these words because we have experienced them.


To try and say that people MUST believe before God acts is ignorant, in my opinion. Where did your belief come from in the first place?

John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.


This way, scripture is absolutely True. Salvation is a gift. Grace is a gift. Faith is a gift. Everything needful for Salvation is a Gift of God. And not from the work of people.
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You made all that up. That is called a fable.
 
Blain

Blain

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Hann57 said:
I have showed you the gospel over and over. Asking Jesus into you heart is not the gospel according to the scriptures.
You have to believe the gospel given to Paul 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4.
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Answer me this do you follow Christ or do you follow Paul?
 
Blain

Blain

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Hann57 said:
You made all that up. That is called a fable.
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Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
 
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Blain said:
If I may ask who are you addressing this to?
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to anyone, to gain knowledge - that we are not to follow man. not a man in New Testament, and not now.

and to be able to understand that the before mentioned person might be listening to men and not to God .
 
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