Can someone here explain to me what is wrong with giving to the poor?

[Pureness]

if you read carefully, you will see that is what I did

in fact, read you own posts above my comments. posts such as this one, where you were jumping to a wrong conclusion

#65

and this one:

#66

so called Christian? that is not just a question

Take your own advice and don't jump to conclusions. So call Christians is part of the question I was asking for Christ sakes. Its a term I seen thrown around here numerous of times here and I was asking a question about it. Calm down hun , and take your time when reading comments and questions. God bless my u dear

 

[NotmebutHim]

Take your own advice and don't jump to conclusions. So call Christians is part of the question I was asking for Christ sakes. Its a term I seen thrown around here numerous of times here and I was asking a question about it. Calm down hun , and take your time when reading comments and questions. God bless my u dear

If I understand your question correctly, the term "so-called Christian" is used to describe a person who claims to be a Christian but who doesn't do what is fitting for a believer according to the Scriptures. Jesus and His brother James both said that it's futile to call Him "Lord" and then to not do what He says. And Paul says that we are to "work out our salvation with fear and trembling". That certainly doesn't mean that works save us, but it does mean that works will naturally follow our salvation.

The problem, unfortunately, is that different people have different ideas of what a "true Christian" and what a "so-called Christian" are. In many cases, a person will say "such and such a person is not a real Christian because he/she doesn't do and say what I do and say". I realize that's a simplistic explanation but again, if I'm understanding you correctly, that's the gist of it. Paul touches on this issue in Romans 14, where he tells believers to not judge one another regarding non-essential issues.

 

[Pureness]

If I understand your question correctly, the term "so-called Christian" is used to describe a person who claims to be a Christian but who doesn't do what is fitting for a believer according to the Scriptures. Jesus and His brother James both said that it's futile to call Him "Lord" and then to not do what He says. And Paul says that we are to "work out our salvation with fear and trembling". That certainly doesn't mean that works save us, but it does mean that works will naturally follow our salvation.

The problem, unfortunately, is that different people have different ideas of what a "true Christian" and what a "so-called Christian" are. In many cases, a person will say "such and such a person is not a real Christian because he/she doesn't do and say what I do and say". I realize that's a simplistic explanation but again, if I'm understanding you correctly, that's the gist of it. Paul touches on this issue in Romans 14, where he tells believers to not judge one another regarding non-essential issues.

Love the response👍

 

[HillsboroMom]

yeah. that is not going to happen

nobody likes an angry Jesus who rails at people and uses questionable language

Well, some people do.

And those who don't will burn.

Because that's the only Jesus through whom salvation comes.

If you want a nice, fluffy Jesus who doesn't care if you hurt others, you can go join a social club. That's not Christianity.

 

[Pureness]

Well, some people do.

And those who don't will burn.

Because that's the only Jesus through whom salvation comes.

If you want a nice, fluffy Jesus who doesn't care if you hurt others, you can go join a social club. That's not Christianity.

Can you explain your meaning of Christianity?

 

[HillsboroMom]

So comparing people to Nazis is bringing them to true. Interesting. 🤔

If someone is behaving like Nazis, then yes, telling them that they're behaving like Nazis would be telling them the truth.

For example, claiming that "the law of the land" is more important than God's law.

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. One would think that in a group intended for CHRISTIAN CHAT, there wouldn't be any disagreement that God's Law supersedes "the law of the land."

And yet here we are. Multiple people here telling me ***I'M*** wrong for pointing that out.

So I'm sorry, Pureness, and I know anger is not godly. It's absolutely something I have to work on.

On the other hand, Jesus himself lost his temper under lesser violations than this, so at least I'm in good company.

 

[HillsboroMom]

Can you explain your meaning of Christianity?

Sure, and thanks for asking. I really appreciate your interaction here.

To me, a Christian is someone who follows, to the best of their ability, the examples set by Jesus, as set forth in the Bible.

Obviously, no one is perfect. Even Paul said "For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing." Based on that, my understanding is that one who strives to follow Jesus, whether they hit the mark 100% of the time or not, is a Christian.

Those who don't even try -- who call themselves "Christian" but make no attempt to live their lives according to Jesus' commandments? This is where I have trouble. Obviously I can't judge what is in their heart. But if someone says something that goes against everything in Scripture, I have to wonder why they call themselves a Christian.

 

[Aerials1978]

If someone is behaving like Nazis, then yes, telling them that they're behaving like Nazis would be telling them the truth.

For example, claiming that "the law of the land" is more important than God's law.

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. One would think that in a group intended for CHRISTIAN CHAT, there wouldn't be any disagreement that God's Law supersedes "the law of the land."

And yet here we are. Multiple people here telling me ***I'M*** wrong for pointing that out.

So I'm sorry, Pureness, and I know anger is not godly. It's absolutely something I have to work on.

On the other hand, Jesus himself lost his temper under lesser violations than this, so at least I'm in good company.[/QUOTE

You really seem to put the focus on yourself and what your decree is. Being ill tempered and using bombastic language with whom you have a disagreement with doesn’t make you a patron saint. You come across as belligerent and….well just plain mean. Maybe a little humbling is in order. Just saying

 

[17Bees]

I kind of think maybe these kinds of debates are more political than religious in nature. I think most all Christians and Christian churches are very concerned with the poor and willingly give to help, but when we spend the money from a community pot - like taxes from he feds - the arguments are more about how the dollars are spent and to who and less about whether one has compassion.

In the case of scripture we can all recite many things Christ said imploring believers to care for the poor, especially from the rich, but not once did Christ seek the enforcement of the Roman sword to ensure that it happened.

 

[Adstar]

Why would you ask that? Is there something you need to confess?

If so, know that Jesus forgives all sins. I don't need to hear any confessions, but Jesus loves you, no matter what.

There is nothing i need to confess in regards to Homosexuality..

I do note however you have failed to answer my question..

 

[Adstar]

Maybe they're poor gays.

That was not the context of her opening post..

 

[Handyman62]

Sure, and thanks for asking. I really appreciate your interaction here.

To me, a Christian is someone who follows, to the best of their ability, the examples set by Jesus, as set forth in the Bible.

Obviously, no one is perfect. Even Paul said "For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing." Based on that, my understanding is that one who strives to follow Jesus, whether they hit the mark 100% of the time or not, is a Christian.

Those who don't even try -- who call themselves "Christian" but make no attempt to live their lives according to Jesus' commandments? This is where I have trouble. Obviously I can't judge what is in their heart. But if someone says something that goes against everything in Scripture, I have to wonder why they call themselves a Christian.

I looks to me like you believe you can work you way to heaven by being good.

 

[kaylagrl]

I kind of think maybe these kinds of debates are more political than religious in nature. I think most all Christians and Christian churches are very concerned with the poor and willingly give to help, but when we spend the money from a community pot - like taxes from he feds - the arguments are more about how the dollars are spent and to who and less about whether one has compassion.

In the case of scripture we can all recite many things Christ said imploring believers to care for the poor, especially from the rich, but not once did Christ seek the enforcement of the Roman sword to ensure that it happened.[/QUOTE]




Exactly!! We decide who and what we give to, not Gov. pet projects like transgenderism, abortion and teaching children CRT ( critical race theory) which is where the money really goes, not to the poor. The poor and down and out are still living on the streets and you can go anywhere in Cali. Chicago, NY and see them there. The church gives the money where it belongs, to the "poor and needy" not gov't pet projects.

 

[ZNP]

Agreed, how pathetic to think that voting for a government that takes people's money away and gives to all these various programs counts as "giving to the poor". When the poor widow gave all her living that was her decision, her living that she gave and the Lord saw that.

These pathetic wannabe self righteous holier than thou speakers who push this whole communist political agenda as being "Christian" are simply liars and thieves disguised as "angels of light".

 

[kaylagrl]

Agreed, how pathetic to think that voting for a government that takes people's money away and gives to all these various programs counts as "giving to the poor". When the poor widow gave all her living that was her decision, her living that she gave and the Lord saw that.

These pathetic wannabe self righteous holier than thou speakers who push this whole communist political agenda as being "Christian" are simply liars and thieves disguised as "angels of light".[/QUOTE]

Best post on the whole subject, right here. Well said!!

ps. Got myself attached in a quote bubble and can't get out. Need sister "Madge" to come rescue me. lol

 

[JTB]

I don't think anyone has a handle on claiming to be of God. Many Republicans are Christians, but that does not mean the party itself is Christian. But every Dem running for office will claim God, same as Repubs. Both do that. But the Dems have gone so radical that one cannot claim to be a Christian and a Dem at the same time. Their stand on abortion alone... It's rather interesting to me that the Gov. that lit the tower pink in NY to celebrate abortion has now resigned in defeat. I don't believe Repubs. are deceiving anyone, I believe they are very clear in what they believe.

Seriously?

That's some set of blinders you have on.

Ephphatha!

 

[Aerials1978]

Seriously?

That's some set of blinders you have on.

Ephphatha!

The GOP is surely not the party of Rocky Ronny anymore. There are some that still try to hold to principles of its founding, but they are the only opposition(I use that word loosely) to the onslaught of the Democrat party which has become Marxist machine.

 

[Nehemiah6]

For example, claiming that "the law of the land" is more important than God's law.

No one has made such a preposterous claim, so you just lied. The laws of the land and the rule of law are what distinguishes a civilized society from barbarians. But you would like to see the barbarians storm the gates and destroy everything. Migrant invaders (illegal aliens) are criminals since they are totally disregarding legal immigration laws with the encouragement of a criminal in the White House. No wonder there is daily organized looting of stores in all Democrat-run cities.

 

[kaylagrl]

Seriously?

That's some set of blinders you have on.

Ephphatha!

Seriously!! I assume you're living in America right now and aren't independently wealthy... No blinders.

 

[Pureness]

Sure, and thanks for asking. I really appreciate your interaction here.

To me, a Christian is someone who follows, to the best of their ability, the examples set by Jesus, as set forth in the Bible.

Obviously, no one is perfect. Even Paul said "For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing." Based on that, my understanding is that one who strives to follow Jesus, whether they hit the mark 100% of the time or not, is a Christian.

Those who don't even try -- who call themselves "Christian" but make no attempt to live their lives according to Jesus' commandments? This is where I have trouble. Obviously I can't judge what is in their heart. But if someone says something that goes against everything in Scripture, I have to wonder why they call themselves a Christian.

Thanks for your explanation