THE WOMEN OF THE CHURCH
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Can you see if you can bring my thinking to a logical conclusion.
Both Paul and Jesus was considered by the role of deakonos and both were single men. Both taught as teachers while serving others.
Paul must of forgot to eliminate himself as he was not a man of one spouse and so was Jesus.
Why the same word here as used for Phoebe?
Can only married men of one wife be a deacon or overseer?
Here is Paul saying he became a deacon of the gospel. Same word as deacon is translated as servant as well.
Ephesians 3:7
New International Version
7 I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God’s grace given me through the working of his power.
Now if you follow the doctrine of women submission to men then do you also apply in 1 Timothy 11 that men are not to have long hair and women are not to have shaved or short hair?
Are you enforcing this?
Or 1 Timothy 2 also says women can not have elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes?
Are you enforcing this as well?
They also must be submissive and be quiet when men are teaching? (Also this translation could mean husband not men in general which changes the context)
I know this is being taught already.
But near the end women are to be saved from the evil done by Eve through reproduction?
How do you teach this?
I want to know if we the individual is now the temple, we the individual is now the church, and where 2 or 3 are gathered this is an assembly what is your guidance on women teaching if two of these are men?
If a women breaks the rules and preaches the gospel leading men to Christ, will those men not be saved?
In context of 1 Corinthians do you agree Paul was addressing disorder in the church and that the Corinthians had women prophets? Is order of who speaks the same as not speaking entirely?
In context did you know the church of Corinthians and Ephesus had issues with pagan traditions related to women that very well could be the reasons only these Churches are addressed?
Even the concept of a women covering was due to pagan rituals especially shaven heads, fancy jewelry and clothes. In context Paul even addresses the issue of women trying to surpass the men with heresies.
Both Paul and Jesus was considered by the role of deakonos and both were single men. Both taught as teachers while serving others.
Paul must of forgot to eliminate himself as he was not a man of one spouse and so was Jesus.
Why the same word here as used for Phoebe?
Can only married men of one wife be a deacon or overseer?
Here is Paul saying he became a deacon of the gospel. Same word as deacon is translated as servant as well.
Ephesians 3:7
New International Version
7 I became a servant of this gospel by the gift of God’s grace given me through the working of his power.
Now if you follow the doctrine of women submission to men then do you also apply in 1 Timothy 11 that men are not to have long hair and women are not to have shaved or short hair?
Are you enforcing this?
Or 1 Timothy 2 also says women can not have elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes?
Are you enforcing this as well?
They also must be submissive and be quiet when men are teaching? (Also this translation could mean husband not men in general which changes the context)
I know this is being taught already.
But near the end women are to be saved from the evil done by Eve through reproduction?
How do you teach this?
I want to know if we the individual is now the temple, we the individual is now the church, and where 2 or 3 are gathered this is an assembly what is your guidance on women teaching if two of these are men?
If a women breaks the rules and preaches the gospel leading men to Christ, will those men not be saved?
In context of 1 Corinthians do you agree Paul was addressing disorder in the church and that the Corinthians had women prophets? Is order of who speaks the same as not speaking entirely?
In context did you know the church of Corinthians and Ephesus had issues with pagan traditions related to women that very well could be the reasons only these Churches are addressed?
Even the concept of a women covering was due to pagan rituals especially shaven heads, fancy jewelry and clothes. In context Paul even addresses the issue of women trying to surpass the men with heresies.
Paul taught the same doctrine to every church, everywhere he went.
1 Corinthians 4
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
1 Corinthians 4
16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
17 For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
No. I'm equating the same word in Greek to the same word used in the passage that you call an office position.
Please tell me the difference in preaching versus preaching in a building?
He taught the foundation while others like Apollos or Timothy built on top of the foundation. Some may build with gold while others hay. We debate over what is gold and what is hay.
I asked you. Still need answers to these.
Can only married men of one wife be a deacon or overseer?
Now if you follow the doctrine of women submission to men then do you also apply in 1 Timothy 11 that men are not to have long hair and women are not to have shaved or short hair?
Are you enforcing this?
Or 1 Timothy 2 also says women can not have elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes?
Are you enforcing this as well?
They also must be submissive and be quiet when men are teaching? (Also this translation could mean husband not men in general which changes the context)
How do you enforce this?
But near the end women are to be saved from the evil done by Eve through reproduction?
How do you teach this?
I want to know if we the individual is now the temple, we the individual is now the church, and where 2 or 3 are gathered this is an assembly what is your guidance on women teaching if two of these are men?
In context of 1 Corinthians do you agree Paul was addressing disorder in the church and that the Corinthians had women prophets? Is order of who speaks the same as not speaking entirely?
In context did you know the church of Corinthians and Ephesus had issues with pagan traditions related to women that very well could be the reasons only these Churches are addressed?
Please tell me the difference in preaching versus preaching in a building?
He taught the foundation while others like Apollos or Timothy built on top of the foundation. Some may build with gold while others hay. We debate over what is gold and what is hay.
I asked you. Still need answers to these.
Can only married men of one wife be a deacon or overseer?
Now if you follow the doctrine of women submission to men then do you also apply in 1 Timothy 11 that men are not to have long hair and women are not to have shaved or short hair?
Are you enforcing this?
Or 1 Timothy 2 also says women can not have elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes?
Are you enforcing this as well?
They also must be submissive and be quiet when men are teaching? (Also this translation could mean husband not men in general which changes the context)
How do you enforce this?
But near the end women are to be saved from the evil done by Eve through reproduction?
How do you teach this?
I want to know if we the individual is now the temple, we the individual is now the church, and where 2 or 3 are gathered this is an assembly what is your guidance on women teaching if two of these are men?
In context of 1 Corinthians do you agree Paul was addressing disorder in the church and that the Corinthians had women prophets? Is order of who speaks the same as not speaking entirely?
In context did you know the church of Corinthians and Ephesus had issues with pagan traditions related to women that very well could be the reasons only these Churches are addressed?
Both are teaching the Word of God and Biblically the role of pastor was to teach
Acts 20:28
English Standard Version
28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God,[a] which he obtained with his own blood.[b]
Footnotes
1438. heautou
Acts 20:28
English Standard Version
28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God,[a] which he obtained with his own blood.[b]
Footnotes
- Acts 20:28 Some manuscripts of the Lord
- Acts 20:28 Or with the blood of his Own
1438. heautou
Strong's Concordance
heautou: of himself, herself, itself
English- Overseer
1985. episkopos
English- Overseer
1985. episkopos
Strong's Concordance
episkopos: a superintendent, an overseer
(epískopos) has been regarded traditionally as a position of authority, in reality the focus is upon the responsibility for caring for others" (L & N, 1, 35.40).
