Which Jesus are you trusting ?

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Blik

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Hmm from what I read..I don't think I have to believe in Father son holy Spirit ..or I am not saved. Nor do I have to believe Jesus Christ is God. I think what was said OT NT anyone that calls on the name of the lord shall be saved" "remember me". Yes a truth Yeshua/Jesus Christ came in the flesh born by the virgin Mary. Died on the cross for the worlds sin was buried rose the 3rd day is seated at the right hand of the Father is the only way to the Father. <---this we know they are of God.

Man says easy to be lost.. most will be lost. I find there will be so many from every nation tribe in heaven NO MAN can count! Far easier to be saved than lost. Anyone that comes to Him He will never cast out.

Debating is not evil... there are those that come and will not listen. You believe their way or its you thats in error. <---to me that is not of God. There are so many that in a debate saw the error and repented.. or just got it right... on and on. How do you talk to a wall?
It seems to me that Christ tells us to give our life to Him, and that is salvation. You can sit on a hill looking down on all other people and committing what Christ told us is the same as murder, yet declare over and over that Christ saves, and that way give up your salvation.

Scripture tells us the message of Christ was repent, the kingdom of God is near. We say that message was to come to Christ for salvation. Living in the earth as strangers, with our real home with the Lord, includes going to Christ with faith in all of Christ. It includes living for Christ as listening to Christ with faith in what we are told by Him.
 

Hann57

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#22
I'm beginning to wonder which Jesus you are trusting since you won't answer my simple question, so here it is again...

"...you don't believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are God?"
The question should be. Do you believe the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are God ?
And the answer is, YES
 

oyster67

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#23
"The second person of the triune Godhead" is NOT in the scriptures.
Is.

Galatians
4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
 

KelbyofGod

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#24
Where did you hear that from. "The second person of the triune Godhead" is NOT in the scriptures. You are not trusting the gospel that was given to Paul by Christ I fear. It is imperative that you understand that you have to trust in what the scriptures says, otherwise you will be damming your own soul.
Gotta love your spunk! :) I'm not against what you're saying because some things are not in the bible no matter how universally they are taught and accepted. Mainly I"m just hoping that you are able to keep that "throw out anything not written in scripture" attitude when someone points out (accurately, not accusingly) that you have also jumped to a conclusion that is not written. Because we all fill in gaps with assumptions.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

Hann57

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Gotta love your spunk! :) I'm not against what you're saying because some things are not in the bible no matter how universally they are taught and accepted. Mainly I"m just hoping that you are able to keep that "throw out anything not written in scripture" attitude when someone points out (accurately, not accusingly) that you have also jumped to a conclusion that is not written. Because we all fill in gaps with assumptions.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
You cannot assume what the scriptures do not say.

2Ti_1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
 

KelbyofGod

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You cannot assume what the scriptures do not say.

2Ti_1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
Even though we're not supposed to, we all do it to some extent. I'm not making excuse for it. I just want you to be thankful (and not get offended, or defensive of your assumption) if someone points one out.

"There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man:..." 1 Corinthians 10:13

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

Hann57

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So you believe 1 John 5:7 in the KJV, you just don't call it the trinity?
I believe that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again as the gospel for my salvation. 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4.
Not here to debate.
 

Hann57

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Do you see from the KJV that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One?

1Co_8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
What does the word of God say ? One God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ. It dont say Trinity.
 

ResidentAlien

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#37
I believe that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again as the gospel for my salvation. 1 Corinthians 15: 3,4.
Not here to debate.
You seem to confuse give and take with debate. I'm not looking for a debate either.
 

ResidentAlien

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#38
1Co_8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
What does the word of God say ? One God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ. It dont say Trinity.
Okay, thank you.
 

KelbyofGod

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1Co_8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
What does the word of God say ? One God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ. It dont say Trinity.
Still like your spunk. :) :)

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

BonnieClaire

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Wow! You twist everything I state here. The trinity is not in the scriptures.
But you said you believe the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are God...so which one is God at the present time?