Well the truth of the matter is that the states and regions with the most draconian restrictions also had the most infections. Which proved that they were all useless. On the other hand Sweden with no lockdowns basically had no issues and their coronavirus death rate was 0.06%. Why didn't Trump follow Sweden's example? And why didn't Trump listen to Zelenko?
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"Wilful ignorance" is NOT one of my strong suits. Find some other accusation, like "Believes in true science over bogus science". BTW I am a microbiologist, so I understand all the shenanigans of the so-called "experts". But could we apply "wilfully blind" to people such as yourself?
Does anyone recall all the Fraudulent Fauci Flip-Flops? Masks today. No masks tomorrow. Oh sorry, masking is pure theater. However, get your masks back on, otherwise how can we control you? "I am Science". And on and on. Then Rochelle Walensky imitated Fauci with all her foolish flip-flops until everyone got the message -- politics trumps science in order to maintain tyranny.
Does anyone recall all the Fraudulent Fauci Flip-Flops? Masks today. No masks tomorrow. Oh sorry, masking is pure theater. However, get your masks back on, otherwise how can we control you? "I am Science". And on and on. Then Rochelle Walensky imitated Fauci with all her foolish flip-flops until everyone got the message -- politics trumps science in order to maintain tyranny.
Wow, I'm impressed, here I thought you were all shots from the hip lol. No, I'm with you on 90% of this.
Simple viruses yes. But if this is a lab rat gone rogue, who knows what other functions they gained it with? They're certainly not going to tell us that. That's why I hold a question mark here, until we know 100% it didn't come from Wuhan, we can't count anything out.
And outdoors, yes there would be less transmission but in a densely packed crowd there's still an exposure. I figure if I'm close enough to smell them, I'm close enough to be exposed. And expose.
Vaxes, you're right there. A non-lethal dosage just makes bugs stronger. We had a chance to present a lethal dose, but that was at the very start... and now we don't have that ability any more. I won't get a booster without getting an antibody count first. That's how my wife's Dr is handling it, since she had covid last November she's been testing antibody levels and so far they're staying high. (As opposed to all those who preach natural immunity but never bother to see if they actually have it.) So no vax needed for her. Seems the smartest way to go to me.
ZDoggMD did a blog on the effects of viral load reduction. The amount of exposure is definitely a factor. But people don't get that. In so many things these days, it's all or nothing. There's no gradient.
I'm glad you get that
Simple viruses yes. But if this is a lab rat gone rogue, who knows what other functions they gained it with? They're certainly not going to tell us that. That's why I hold a question mark here, until we know 100% it didn't come from Wuhan, we can't count anything out.
And outdoors, yes there would be less transmission but in a densely packed crowd there's still an exposure. I figure if I'm close enough to smell them, I'm close enough to be exposed. And expose.
Vaxes, you're right there. A non-lethal dosage just makes bugs stronger. We had a chance to present a lethal dose, but that was at the very start... and now we don't have that ability any more. I won't get a booster without getting an antibody count first. That's how my wife's Dr is handling it, since she had covid last November she's been testing antibody levels and so far they're staying high. (As opposed to all those who preach natural immunity but never bother to see if they actually have it.) So no vax needed for her. Seems the smartest way to go to me.
ZDoggMD did a blog on the effects of viral load reduction. The amount of exposure is definitely a factor. But people don't get that. In so many things these days, it's all or nothing. There's no gradient.
I'm glad you get that
My friend, anyone who truly believes the Jan 6 traitors were just pranksters has not just drunk the coolaid, they've bathed in, mainlined and transfused it. Makes you completely unreliable as a source of information on anything. How about we do the mutual ignore thing, then we won't have to waste time considering each other's insanity?
We already have peer reviewed studies showing the effectiveness for HCQ if used early is quite high.
Exposure is how your body develops immunity. It is the basic theory behind a vaccine. Expose the body to a weakened form of the virus so it can develop immunity. It is not some bizarre game of chance that the same states that did not have lockdowns and that had numerous large outdoor rallies and gatherings are the same states that are doing the best. People were able to develop immunity by being in those gatherings.
If what you are saying is that we could have knocked Covid out if we could have just vaccinated everyone at once that is not true. There never was any chance to "present a lethal dose". Even if you had vaccinated 90% of America in a single day that would not have done it. The US only represents 5% of the world's population and this virus was already worldwide. No reasonable person could possibly think it would have been possible. As long as the vaccine only provides partial immunity the strategy would be crystal clear, limited use of the vaccine would have made it more effective for those who needed it most.
Exposure is how your body develops immunity. It is the basic theory behind a vaccine. Expose the body to a weakened form of the virus so it can develop immunity. It is not some bizarre game of chance that the same states that did not have lockdowns and that had numerous large outdoor rallies and gatherings are the same states that are doing the best. People were able to develop immunity by being in those gatherings.
If what you are saying is that we could have knocked Covid out if we could have just vaccinated everyone at once that is not true. There never was any chance to "present a lethal dose". Even if you had vaccinated 90% of America in a single day that would not have done it. The US only represents 5% of the world's population and this virus was already worldwide. No reasonable person could possibly think it would have been possible. As long as the vaccine only provides partial immunity the strategy would be crystal clear, limited use of the vaccine would have made it more effective for those who needed it most.
I believe there were at most 1,000 people guilty of a crime even if more than 500 were guilty of no more than trespassing. However, I also believe there were 500,000 people at that rally which means that 99.8% of the people there were not guilty of any crime and only 0.1% were guilty of anything more than trespassing.
That said 80 people have been arrested and to my mind they haven't even arrested the worst ones like these guys who work for the FBI and were inciting the protestors to enter the capital. The other ones that were the worst of the worst were scaling the walls and breaking the glass at the capital at the same time that Trump was speaking over at the Whitehouse. I want those guys arrested, they obviously did not come to listen to Trump but just to riot. To put that in perspective, 99.98% of the people who were at the rally were not arrested and have not been charged with a crime.
Still a crime was committed, they should have their day in court, but they should also be treated humanely in jail and they aren't being, they should be given an opportunity to meet with counsel and for the majority of them get out on bail and prepare for their trial from home. The contrast with the Antifa and BLM riots is stark. Government buildings were burned down, stores were looted, people were killed and yet we were told that they were "mostly peaceful" yet when you run the numbers you learn there were over 500 of these riots that were not peaceful in less than a year. The amount of damage done was much greater than what was done at the capital and the violence was much greater.
It is that stark contrast that has people alarmed.
That said 80 people have been arrested and to my mind they haven't even arrested the worst ones like these guys who work for the FBI and were inciting the protestors to enter the capital. The other ones that were the worst of the worst were scaling the walls and breaking the glass at the capital at the same time that Trump was speaking over at the Whitehouse. I want those guys arrested, they obviously did not come to listen to Trump but just to riot. To put that in perspective, 99.98% of the people who were at the rally were not arrested and have not been charged with a crime.
Still a crime was committed, they should have their day in court, but they should also be treated humanely in jail and they aren't being, they should be given an opportunity to meet with counsel and for the majority of them get out on bail and prepare for their trial from home. The contrast with the Antifa and BLM riots is stark. Government buildings were burned down, stores were looted, people were killed and yet we were told that they were "mostly peaceful" yet when you run the numbers you learn there were over 500 of these riots that were not peaceful in less than a year. The amount of damage done was much greater than what was done at the capital and the violence was much greater.
It is that stark contrast that has people alarmed.
Multiple Airline CEOs Come Out Against Biden's Mask Mandates, Point Out Major Gap in Leftist Logic
https://www.westernjournal.com/mult...-mask-mandates-point-major-gap-leftist-logic/
https://www.westernjournal.com/mult...-mask-mandates-point-major-gap-leftist-logic/
Had this matter been left solely to the discretion of individuals, that would have been fine. But mask mandates were a part of Psy Ops (Psychological Warfare) against the general public. Force people to comply with every STUPID DIRECTIVE with severe penalties so that they can no longer question or oppose government shenanigans, corruption, and deception. And it worked. Now if the governments send out a directive saying "Swallow this poison pill because it is good for you" what do you think will happen?
At some point you have to realize it is time to leave
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...erate-attempt-deter-looters-smashing-windows/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...erate-attempt-deter-looters-smashing-windows/
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If he could have afforded to, my older brother would have been there climbing the walls. I have to wonder how many more there are like him around this country.
And yes cops that were complicit should be held accountable. But really, you're not going to get that kind of fairness from the left or the right. I've stopped expecting it.
I can't join in on the "if this bad is really bad, then that bad is good" bandwagon either. Yes many of the BLM/antifa protests were criminal. That doesn't make the Jan 6 rioters/qanon any better. We HAVE to stop supporting the lesser evil just because we hate the greater evil "that much".
And yes cops that were complicit should be held accountable. But really, you're not going to get that kind of fairness from the left or the right. I've stopped expecting it.
I can't join in on the "if this bad is really bad, then that bad is good" bandwagon either. Yes many of the BLM/antifa protests were criminal. That doesn't make the Jan 6 rioters/qanon any better. We HAVE to stop supporting the lesser evil just because we hate the greater evil "that much".
I was there at the rally but not at the capital. I had gotten up at 5 and had been standing in the cold for 8 hours so I wanted to go back to my hotel and lie down. My plan was to return at night for a candlelight vigil thinking they would be spending the whole night in deliberations. When I got up to my room the city erupted in police sirens and my phone was ringing off the hook and I had no idea what all the fuss was about.
God warned us, repeatedly, where the world would be at the end.
1. The world would wholesale turn away from God - and we see that happening on the left.
2. False prophets would arise to deceive the elect and turn them away from His truth as well.
I don't suppose there's any way I could convince you that no. 2 is being accomplished by the right, can I?
My advice would be, if you feel you need to attend a political rally, you should go to church instead.
1. The world would wholesale turn away from God - and we see that happening on the left.
2. False prophets would arise to deceive the elect and turn them away from His truth as well.
I don't suppose there's any way I could convince you that no. 2 is being accomplished by the right, can I?
My advice would be, if you feel you need to attend a political rally, you should go to church instead.
I have no issue with seeing false prophets on the right. Anyone who thinks our salvation is coming through politics is clearly deceived.
In my opinion this is a multi front war, the Stop the Steal rally represented the "Samson' wing. Not all that clear on the ways of God but will still bring down the temple of Baal.
In my opinion this is a multi front war, the Stop the Steal rally represented the "Samson' wing. Not all that clear on the ways of God but will still bring down the temple of Baal.
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What caused Samson's downfall? Delilah. What caused these 80 with the Stop the Steal rally to be arrested? The Deep State working through the FBI. The FBI tried this earlier with Whitmer kidnapping just like Delilah tried earlier with this same group to entrap them.
Samson's hair was shaved signifying his oath to not violate the law. However, after a season they brought him out to have sport with him into their temple.
The house of congress is a temple to Baal. This Jan 6th hearing is them bringing Samson back out to have sport. When Pelosi and the rest of them get exposed it will be Samson bringing the entire Temple down on their heads.
Samson killed more in death than in life. This collapse of the whole Temple of Baal will do much more damage than the Stop the Steal rallies ever did.
Samson's hair was shaved signifying his oath to not violate the law. However, after a season they brought him out to have sport with him into their temple.
The house of congress is a temple to Baal. This Jan 6th hearing is them bringing Samson back out to have sport. When Pelosi and the rest of them get exposed it will be Samson bringing the entire Temple down on their heads.
Samson killed more in death than in life. This collapse of the whole Temple of Baal will do much more damage than the Stop the Steal rallies ever did.
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What is with the Democrats obsession with everyone dying for Christmas?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...reid-claims-fox-news-wants-viewers-die-video/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...reid-claims-fox-news-wants-viewers-die-video/
