Galatians Discussion
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I do not claim that I personally have lived a perfect life but only that it is possible to live a perfect life.
I live that life from day to day inasmuch as I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4).
I live that life from day to day inasmuch as I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4).
If we claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us 1John1:8
Notice, it does not say, "If we say that we do no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If it said that, it would be contradicting immediate context (1 John 3:5-9).
1 John 1:8 is speaking of the element of indwelling sin.
We all have sin dwelling in us; however that element of sin can be rendered dead (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it no longer has any say over our behaviour (Romans 6:14).
We are not obligated to obey the flesh (Romans 8:12 (kjv, NLT)).
Therefore, when it comes to practicing or committing sin, it is possible to live a life of perfect holiness for an extended period of time; even for the rest of our lives (Luke 1:74-75); walking not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4) in a consistent manner for an extended period of time.
The doctrine of the inevitability of sin, for the believer, is therefore a false doctrine and a heresy.
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
Notice, it does not say, "If we say that we do no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If it said that, it would be contradicting immediate context (1 John 3:5-9).
1 John 1:8 is speaking of the element of indwelling sin.
We all have sin dwelling in us; however that element of sin can be rendered dead (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it no longer has any say over our behaviour (Romans 6:14).
We are not obligated to obey the flesh (Romans 8:12 (kjv, NLT)).
Therefore, when it comes to practicing or committing sin, it is possible to live a life of perfect holiness for an extended period of time; even for the rest of our lives (Luke 1:74-75); walking not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4) in a consistent manner for an extended period of time.
The doctrine of the inevitability of sin, for the believer, is therefore a false doctrine and a heresy.
Notice, it does not say, "If we say that we do no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If it said that, it would be contradicting immediate context (1 John 3:5-9).
1 John 1:8 is speaking of the element of indwelling sin.
We all have sin dwelling in us; however that element of sin can be rendered dead (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it no longer has any say over our behaviour (Romans 6:14).
We are not obligated to obey the flesh (Romans 8:12 (kjv, NLT)).
Therefore, when it comes to practicing or committing sin, it is possible to live a life of perfect holiness for an extended period of time; even for the rest of our lives (Luke 1:74-75); walking not after the flesh but after the Spirit (Romans 8:4) in a consistent manner for an extended period of time.
The doctrine of the inevitability of sin, for the believer, is therefore a false doctrine and a heresy.
As I showed you yesterday, the corinthians committed sin, James tells us to confess our faults/sins one to another.
Im afraid anyone who claims to be without sin does not have the truth in them
So now you have to try and turn what is written in 1John 1:8 on its head. We have sin in us as we do not live a perfect life according to the letter of the law, for, the letter of that law kills(1Cor3:6)
As I showed you yesterday, the corinthians committed sin, James tells us to confess our faults/sins one to another.
Im afraid anyone who claims to be without sin does not have the truth in them
As I showed you yesterday, the corinthians committed sin, James tells us to confess our faults/sins one to another.
Im afraid anyone who claims to be without sin does not have the truth in them
By definition if you walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit, the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in you, so, no, you would not be committing sin in those moments.
''But I can and do live a perfect life inasmuch as I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit from day to day and from moment to moment.''
So, do you ever commit sin or do you not?
If you are not without sin you commit sin,
If I am not without sin, it is still possible that sin can be rendered dead within me (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it no longer has any say over my behaviour (Romans 6:14).
Sin still dwells within me; it just does not control me.
No you don't have your definitions right.
If I am not without sin, it is still possible that sin can be rendered dead within me (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it no longer has any say over my behaviour (Romans 6:14).
Sin still dwells within me; it just does not control me.
If I am not without sin, it is still possible that sin can be rendered dead within me (Romans 6:6, Galatians 5:24, Romans 7:8) so that it no longer has any say over my behaviour (Romans 6:14).
Sin still dwells within me; it just does not control me.
you wrote:
''But I can and do live a perfect life inasmuch as I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit from day to day and from moment to moment.''
So, do you ever commit sin or do you not?
''But I can and do live a perfect life inasmuch as I walk not after the flesh but after the Spirit from day to day and from moment to moment.''
So, do you ever commit sin or do you not?
I will say that it is possible for me to never commit sin again in this life; while it remains to be seen how such a thing will be played out in my life.
If I said yes then it would be a statement of rebellion against God, saying that I am going to commit sin as an act of my will.
I will say that it is possible for me to never commit sin again in this life; while it remains to be seen how such a thing will be played out in my life.
I will say that it is possible for me to never commit sin again in this life; while it remains to be seen how such a thing will be played out in my life.