"3 ...so that in whatever place I am, there ye may be also." (
the very next verse saying, "4 And to the place I am going, ye know the way.") Don't forget the verse which states, (
Jn3:13) "... even the Son of man WHICH/WHO
IS IN HEAVEN" (present tense; but He stated this while standing on the earth
)
Anyway, on to my point:
Some of us believe "
the man child"
of Rev12:5 / "
the male [G730 - arsena / arren]" of
Rev12:13 IS "the Church
WHICH IS HIS BODY" (not speaking of Jesus Christ exclusively).,, "the woman which HAD BROUGHT FORTH
THE MALE [G730 - arsena / arren]"
Rev12:13, where
verse 5 says, and her child was
"CAUGHT UP [G726 - harpazo] TO GOD AND TO HIS THRONE"
...and where the FIRST PART OF THAT VERSE speaks of "who shall rule all the nations with an iron sceptre," but bear also in mind what
Rev2:26-27 had already said, "[
he that overcometh (that's the SAVED, as I'd mentioned)]...
to him will I give power/authority over the nations, and he shall rule them with a rod/sceptre of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers:
EVEN AS I RECEIVED OF MY FATHER"
So,
Rev12:13's "[the woman] which HAD BROUGHT FORTH the male [G730]" speaks of the male having been born PRIOR TO this
mid-trib point in the chronology, that is the general chpt 12 setting; and these verses about "the man child / the male [G730]" correspond with:
Micah 5:3 (whereas v.2 speaks of Jesus' OWN birth,
verse 3 does NOT) -
Berean Study Bible [to help show context]
Therefore
Israel will be abandoned
until she who is in labor has given birth;
then the rest of His brothers will return to the children of Israel.
King James Bible
Therefore will he give them up,
until the time
that she which travaileth hath brought forth:
then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel.
[colors showing the 3 distinct persons of BOTH this
Micah 5:3 text and the
Rev12:5,13,[17] text to which it corresponds]
