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Dino246 said:
Remember that non-Christians aren't merely ignorant. Rather, they actively reject God. This is clearly taught in Romans 1.
Actually, it is both. Some unbelievers do intentionally reject God, but some are ignorant of God and His salvation plan. That is why we need to spread the Gospel. There are still those out there who have never really heard the "true Gospel" of Jesus. They have heard many other "gospels" offered by science and the world, and even some false teachers, but the True Gospel is yet to be preached to them.
Remember that non-Christians aren't merely ignorant. Rather, they actively reject God. This is clearly taught in Romans 1.
Actually, it is both. Some unbelievers do intentionally reject God, but some are ignorant of God and His salvation plan. That is why we need to spread the Gospel. There are still those out there who have never really heard the "true Gospel" of Jesus. They have heard many other "gospels" offered by science and the world, and even some false teachers, but the True Gospel is yet to be preached to them.
I've always said that there has to be more than our existence because time doesn't make sense. You can keep going back and back and say, "Well, what came before that?" You can do the same with the idea of creation or the Big Bang. Well, what caused that? What came before that? That's why I figure God's not bound by time, so it makes sense on another level, but not in our human limitations. As for our existence, we can only go back so far before we have to accept that there's more than we can understand. It's definitely interesting to consider all the theories, though.
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KrisWampler
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@Jesusfollower it was really necessary to react “zzz” to my post, right? Couldn’t just move on from something you didn’t like?
i've had brothers in CHRIST get mad at me for trying to wake atheists. Like GOD doesn't want us to try and reach out to them or something.
Why would an atheist be wasting time judging people on ethics unless they knew there was a Judging GOD?
Romans 2:1
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 2:14-15
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; )
Romans 2:1
Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
Romans 1:21
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 2:14-15
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; )
Apologists I like to listen are:
William Lane Craig
James White
Sean McDowell
Braxton Hunter
Tim Stratton
Frank Turek
Greg Koukl
Leighton Flowers
Gary Habermas
William Lane Craig
James White
Sean McDowell
Braxton Hunter
Tim Stratton
Frank Turek
Greg Koukl
Leighton Flowers
Gary Habermas
I think apologetics has a place, but I don't have any "favorites." If they help clarify God's word they're in. If they make it up as they go along, they're out. 
Your effort is welcome but, time would be better spent elsewhere of God's word, because;
There is no such thing as an atheist as proven by the following;
NO one has possession of all the knowledge in the world and it is possible that God exists in the amount of knowledge that a mind does not possess. Therefore, the concept of being an atheists is nullified.
It's called interference patterns
Look how strange the core of our reality is:
https://fb.watch/a-BzeamsVq/
hmm cant say Im a FAN but I do have apologetics in the church library
Lee Strobel is one I recall
I find that apologetics needs to be for a particular audience for example, CS Lewis is one that postwar educated or academic british atheists read , though it will seem dated now to people today, and anyone not British would not necessarily relate to his arguments, because the church he was referring to was the Church of England
He also made sure never to use scripture directly in his work. But the danger of that (in a work like Mere Christianity) is that scripture is then downplayed as unimportant when its actually the most important evidence we have of Jesus and what He said.
Lee Strobel is one I recall
I find that apologetics needs to be for a particular audience for example, CS Lewis is one that postwar educated or academic british atheists read , though it will seem dated now to people today, and anyone not British would not necessarily relate to his arguments, because the church he was referring to was the Church of England
He also made sure never to use scripture directly in his work. But the danger of that (in a work like Mere Christianity) is that scripture is then downplayed as unimportant when its actually the most important evidence we have of Jesus and what He said.
I found Answers in Genesis a good apologetics site for those with a scientific background or somewhat sceptical about creation.
I cant recall who was the author of it, Ken Ham or somebody. It didnt profess to have ALL the answers but it kind of made one want to enquire more and also question whether charles dawins evolutionary theory has any credible basis. There are some things Darwin observed that were correct but his conclusions seems off, plus never accounted for the fact that animals can and do migrate and the earth can move very suddenly.
I cant recall who was the author of it, Ken Ham or somebody. It didnt profess to have ALL the answers but it kind of made one want to enquire more and also question whether charles dawins evolutionary theory has any credible basis. There are some things Darwin observed that were correct but his conclusions seems off, plus never accounted for the fact that animals can and do migrate and the earth can move very suddenly.
I couldn't disagree with...... apologetics relating to the Bible.... more. A form of the word....apology.
We should NEVER enter apologies having to do with God's word and that is the inference of application of the detestable word...apologetics. Has nothing to do with proper representation of God's word including Christ our Savior.
We are to witness for Christ and that includes the proper interpretation and explanation of scriptures.......to the extent of our abilities.
We are not to include any semblance of apologies.
The Bible says...in the end times there will be...... great deceptions....here is one of them....big time.
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KrisWampler
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You have been severely misinformed. "Apologetics" does NOT come from the word "apologize." It's from the Greek word "apologia" which means "speaking in defense." The biblical authority for apologetics is plainly stated in 1 Peter 3:15:
" But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,"
We are expressly told to be prepared to give a reason for the faith we have, which is exactly what apologetics does.
You missed my point....it is interpreted to be closely allied with apology by the general person...they do not look it up. ...here it is in part....Definition of apologetics...... 1 : systematic argumentative discourse. Thus the problem we don't argue about the Bible. We discuss and explain..
This is a back door way to infuse confusion and disarray in the Christian community. Why isn't..... witness for....enough?
Apologics is new...typical of introducing a negative into God's community by the new age religion type.
Show me the word in the Bible..I can't find it?
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KrisWampler
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Wait, so other people’s ignorance about a word should limit the express command I have to prepare an argument in defense of my faith?
Yeah, I’ll pass on that rule. And I doubt you apply it to any other area of your life. Just say the real reason you don’t like apologetics.
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KrisWampler
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In answer to your last question, here is where the word apologia occurs in the Bible. I hope you realize we inherited the Greek translation.
https://biblehub.com/greek/627.htm