Something I'm opposed to.

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Something I'm opposed to is a person who asks a question, "What Religion was Jesus of Nazareth?" As an educated Socratic philosopher, I'm religiously opposed to this, I think that this is an impertinent question, and also blasphemous.
 

Mii

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I get being opposed to the question but I'd probably follow up with "what is religion?" if it were posed to me to explore what they mean a bit.

Or that Jesus taught against "religion" as it is typically understood and that it's more about relationship although there IS a relationship to the law (sowing and reaping for instance) and then point out how that works in the world today and then also not leave out the Pharisee angle if they are stubborn in lumping people together.

As I finished typing that I can see why that would be blasphemous but I'd first want to get a gauge on whether they are sincere or not and let him speak for himself via his word.
 
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Religion is human understanding. Re is a prefix meaning regarding or to be in the state of thinking about a thing. You can be thinking about a legion (group of centurions) or a legend (a narrative story) or a ledger (a numerical record of money spent). That is religion. Some religions are true, and some are false. If your religion is false, it is either because your understanding is false or because what you studied and viewed is not true.
 

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It seems if someone asks this question it may be they are ooking for the proper denomination. If this is the case, Jesus had no denomination unless you call worshiping in the faith of Abraham a denomination.


There was no such thing as Judaism until after Jesus Yeshua came to save us all, although He is of the tribe of Judah.

Aside from this, there is no harm in honestly asking such a question if the motives are pure.
 
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Jesus of Nazereth's four biographers state very clearly that he attended a Hebrew Synagogue.
 

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Whenever I have had this question posed to me (maybe a handful of times) It has always be a gotcha question….trying to corner me. But the majority of the time it’s been “what religion is God” To which my answer is….

Religion is what man thinks of God …Christianity is what God wrought through His son Jesus Christ…it’s a way of a Father with His family...because, at the root of all religions is a works-based theology or doctrine ……Christianity is grace based.
 

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Religion is human understanding.
Which I think it's of utility to try to operate within if I discern sincerity. Even if someone is trying to stir up trouble, it depends on their resolution in that and where it comes from. If it's from pain or frustration or confusion, I'm a little bit more understanding because I also struggle with those things.
 

p_rehbein

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Something I'm opposed to is a person who asks a question, "What Religion was Jesus of Nazareth?" As an educated Socratic philosopher, I'm religiously opposed to this, I think that this is an impertinent question, and also blasphemous.
I have no idea what a "Socratic Philosopher" is, but Jesus was not of any "religion." Jesus is God! God the Son. He came to earth to establish Gods Salvation Plan for all mankind. He established the New Covenant Faith! That is why Christianity is a FAITH, and not a religion. We serve a "living God!"

Looking into your claim of Socratic Philosopher, I see a few wee problems merging that earthly wisdom belief with Christianity, Gods Word.....

(example)

Socratic Paradoxes: No one desires evil. No one does wrong willingly. These two are directly against the Word of God............thus christians should dismiss them IMO.

Socrates stated: There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.
Again, completely against the Word of God. In fact; it COMPLETELY DISMISSES GOD!

Socrates did believe in an afterlife, but I see no evidence he believed in God, Jesus, or had any knowledge of Scripture. Now, all of this may have been unkonwn to him due to when he lived, but there seems to be no reason for Christians to take in his ideology, except as a way to expand ones knowledge of "worldly ways" that are not in keeping with Scripture IMO.......

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The religion of Jesus could be called Nazarene Judaism, later called Christianity.
 

p_rehbein

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Some religions are true, and some are false. If your religion is false, it is either because your understanding is false or because what you studied and viewed is not true.
What worldly religion is Truth? There is only ONE Truth, and that is the Word of God!

Now, be sure, to each his own, but I prefer to place my trust and faith in the One True Living God, and the wisdom of the Holy Spirit.

I do not place my faith and trust in the wisdom/philosophy of man. The reason is:

Proverbs, Chapter 3:

5) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6) In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

7) Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

(and)

1 Corinthians, Chapter 1:

24) But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25) Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26) For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27) But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

As I said, to each his own, but I am a blood bought, born again child of the Living God and I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus the Christ; and I lean on the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit for wisdom and understanding.
 
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I have no idea what a "Socratic Philosopher" is, but Jesus was not of any "religion." Jesus is God! God the Son. He came to earth to establish Gods Salvation Plan for all mankind. He established the New Covenant Faith! That is why Christianity is a FAITH, and not a religion. We serve a "living God!"

Looking into your claim of Socratic Philosopher, I see a few wee problems merging that earthly wisdom belief with Christianity, Gods Word.....

(example)

Socratic Paradoxes: No one desires evil. No one does wrong willingly. These two are directly against the Word of God............thus christians should dismiss them IMO.

Socrates stated: There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.
Again, completely against the Word of God. In fact; it COMPLETELY DISMISSES GOD!

Socrates did believe in an afterlife, but I see no evidence he believed in God, Jesus, or had any knowledge of Scripture. Now, all of this may have been unkonwn to him due to when he lived, but there seems to be no reason for Christians to take in his ideology, except as a way to expand ones knowledge of "worldly ways" that are not in keeping with Scripture IMO.......

15 Examples of Socrates Philosophy - Simplicable

The Philosophy of Socrates - Philosophy & Philosophers
You haven't read Plato? Wow. You're impoverished.
 
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What worldly religion is Truth? There is only ONE Truth, and that is the Word of God!

Now, be sure, to each his own, but I prefer to place my trust and faith in the One True Living God, and the wisdom of the Holy Spirit.

I do not place my faith and trust in the wisdom/philosophy of man. The reason is:

Proverbs, Chapter 3:

5) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6) In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

7) Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

(and)

1 Corinthians, Chapter 1:

24) But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25) Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26) For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27) But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

As I said, to each his own, but I am a blood bought, born again child of the Living God and I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus the Christ; and I lean on the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit for wisdom and understanding.
Religion isn't worldly, it's set apart. You really need to reread Exodus. There is a Sabbath Day which is set apart, hallowed and sanctified.