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No, I just read the Bible and hypothetical mealy mouthed reasons why I shouldn't follow the Lord's leading are to be completely rejected. If you are worried that some family member will be offended because you didn't get the vaccine then you are not worthy of the kingdom.You must just read the threads from CC about the vaccine.
Be glad if this is not in your area!
No, I just read the Bible and hypothetical mealy mouthed reasons why I shouldn't follow the Lord's leading are to be completely rejected. If you are worried that some family member will be offended because you didn't get the vaccine then you are not worthy of the kingdom.
So what is your point? The Lord said 49 I came to cast fire upon the earth; and [y]what do I desire, if it is already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Think ye that I am come to give peace in the earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 for there shall be from henceforth five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 They shall be divided, father against son, and son against father; mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother; mother in law against her daughter in law, and daughter in law against her mother in law.Brother, i am not shure that you understand what I wrote. I have no problem with my family. We are all vaccined. My youngest daughter had recently Covid. ( She was the only one who was not boostered)
That the vaccine question is splitting families I see in Christian (mostly russiangermans) families and in families of non Christians. And again I see it here on CC where we all are claim to be children of God and follower of Christ.
So what is your point? The Lord said 49 I came to cast fire upon the earth; and [y]what do I desire, if it is already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Think ye that I am come to give peace in the earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 for there shall be from henceforth five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 They shall be divided, father against son, and son against father; mother against daughter, and daughter against her mother; mother in law against her daughter in law, and daughter in law against her mother in law.
Are you saying this is a fulfillment of the Lord's word here concerning His coming?
54 And he said to the multitudes also, When ye see a cloud rising in the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it cometh to pass. 55 And when ye see a south wind blowing, ye say, There will be a [z]scorching heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye know how to [aa]interpret the face of the earth and the heaven; but how is it that ye know not how to [ab]interpret this time?
Are you trying to interpret this time as the Day of the Lord?
57 And why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right? 58 For as thou art going with thine adversary before the magistrate, on the way give diligence to be quit of him; lest haply he drag thee unto the judge, and the judge shall deliver thee to the [ac]officer, and the [ad]officer shall cast thee into prison. 59 I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou have paid the very last mite.
are you saying that this mandate is not right and we should all be judging this mandate as from the evil one?
Are you saying this is a fulfillment of the Lord's word here concerning His coming?
You don't understand what Jesus said. In order to bring in the kingdom families being split apart is inevitable. You do not allow the unbeliever to drive the car or determine your walk. I will follow the Lord, if that results in a fire falling on the Earth and a division in a family, well the Lord told us that would be the case.As I said, you dont understand what I wrote.
It is simply the fact that the vaccine question is splitting Christians and Families. Thats a tragedy. And instead to support this fact. We should fight against this fact.
I'm not twisting anything. He has made his "simple point" extremely clear. He is saying that families are being split over the vaccine, and this is because of Christians who are refusing to be vaccinated despite this causing division. He is saying (though he is obtuse, you have to familiarize yourself with all that Aidan has posted) that for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian we should go ahead and stop speaking against the vaccine and even go and get vaccinated.You do twist what others have said - when they make a simple point and do so to express a reality in those lives of whom they are speaking. You are not nearly well enough equipped to make prophetic claims, brother - but you will and the fruit will be reaped from your own threshing floor. I tried to engage you previously in another thread and you made the same schismatic gestures - only that time it was away from a prophetic meaning because you cannot hold to a prophetic line of reason. Perhaps you ought to go back to teaching those science subjects you walked away from because you are more determined to run for your life - than you are willing to lay it down in the service of others.
I'm not twisting anything. He has made his "simple point" extremely clear. He is saying that families are being split over the vaccine, and this is because of Christians who are refusing to be vaccinated despite this causing division. He is saying (though he is obtuse, you have to familiarize yourself with all that Aidan has posted) that for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian we should go ahead and stop speaking against the vaccine and even go and get vaccinated.
My post on the other hand says that "for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian" we must follow the Lord and should not be surprised if the result is a fire, uprisings, protests, and division.
We need to speak truth in love. Being concerned for others doesn't mean we stop speaking the truth.
No it is not COVID that is killing vast numbers. What's killing people are (1) the total sabotage of early and very effective treatments and (2) the bogus "vaccines" which are simply lethal and toxic injections.
Also there is someone who disagrees with post #130, which is actually a RESEARCH PAPER showing the harmful effects of graphene oxide. So now --- through the propaganda wars -- people (such as yourself) are choosing to believe all the lies rather than the cold hard facts.
That is how insidious propaganda is. All the governments, public health agencies, and mainstream media have been flat out lying to the public day after day for two years. And as the Fascists and Communists noted long ago, when you repeat a lie long enough and strong enough, it becomes "the truth".
George Orwell already described this Dystopia in 1984.
SLAVERY IS FREEDOM -- LIES ARE TRUTH -- EVIL IS GOOD.
The Lord has come to cast fire on the Earth. Everyone has the choice to receive the savior or be the black coal that is consumed in this fire.Then walk in the midst of fires and pluck from the flames those whom the Lord has called out - stop throwing black coal into the flames.
I'm not twisting anything. He has made his "simple point" extremely clear. He is saying that families are being split over the vaccine, and this is because of Christians who are refusing to be vaccinated despite this causing division. He is saying (though he is obtuse, you have to familiarize yourself with all that Aidan has posted) that for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian we should go ahead and stop speaking against the vaccine and even go and get vaccinated.
My post on the other hand says that "for the sake of oneness and being a good Christian" we must follow the Lord and should not be surprised if the result is a fire, uprisings, protests, and division.
We need to speak truth in love. Being concerned for others doesn't mean we stop speaking the truth.
I do not determine who is following the Lord and who isn't. That would put me in the position of a judge and I am not a judge, I am a witness. I neither judge who is following the Lord, who isn't, or who is "the true follower". I find it strange that anyone who claims to be a believer that Jesus is Lord would seek to usurp the Lord's position and judge others. Especially since the NT is extremely clear on this point that we are not to judge another man's servant.So according you is someone who get the vaccine not following the Lord? The vaccined is the sinner and the unvaccined is the true follower of Christ?
Help me to understand.
The Lord has come to cast fire on the Earth. Everyone has the choice to receive the savior or be the black coal that is consumed in this fire.
2Peter 3:7 but the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
Telling people of the coming judgement is what it means to be a witness who does not withhold from you the whole counsel of God.
Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, having in like manner with these given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.
Sin will be judged. You are not showing people any mercy or love to not tell people this.
Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22 And on some have mercy, who are in doubt; 23 and some save, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
First you build yourselves up in the faith. How? Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. If you are not speaking the word of God you are not building anyone up in the faith. With our faith built up we are able to keep ourselves in love and mercy. Telling people not to tell the truth is neither love or mercy.
Then we need to have mercy on some. Who? Those who are in doubt. Strengthen their faith by speaking the word.
"Snatch some from the fire". The world is a condemned building that is on fire. The Pandemic is a fire, the vaccine is gasoline. Warning people is our attempt to snatch them out of this burning building.
So according you is someone who get the vaccine not following the Lord? The vaccined is the sinner and the unvaccined is the true follower of Christ?
Help me to understand.
So according you is someone who get the vaccine not following the Lord? The vaccined is the sinner and the unvaccined is the true follower of Christ?
Help me to understand.
I do not determine who is following the Lord and who isn't. That would put me in the position of a judge and I am not a judge, I am a witness. I neither judge who is following the Lord, who isn't, or who is "the true follower". I find it strange that anyone who claims to be a believer that Jesus is Lord would seek to usurp the Lord's position and judge others. Especially since the NT is extremely clear on this point that we are not to judge another man's servant.
So I hope this helps you to understand, in brief do not judge lest you yourself will be judged. With what judgement you judge others you shall be judged.
My responsibility is to witness, what you do with that is up to you. If I keep quiet your blood will be on my hands, if I speak then I will be free of your blood.
The medical authorities conspicuously and purposely withheld IVM, HCQ, intravenous vitamin C.Thats always a matter, whom to believe.
Btw: till the date of today.much more people died because of the virus and not because of the vaccine. This is a fact! While your claime is till today unproofen!
The future will reveal you claime is right or wrong. Till today at least it is wrong!
We are not vaccinated in my immediate family......none of us. And strangely enough it's like COVID never existed at all. A total nothingburger.Brother, i am not shure that you understand what I wrote. I have no problem with my family. We are all vaccined. My youngest daughter had recently Covid. ( She was the only one who was not boostered)
That the vaccine question is splitting families I see in Christian (mostly russiangermans) families and in families of non Christians. And again I see it here on CC where we all are claim to be children of God and follower of Christ.