Who are we? Who are you?

[JaumeJ]

The term "Christian" is not "commonly" used as you say, but is used twice in the singular (in Acts 26v28 by King Agrippa and in 1Peter 4v16 by Peter), and once in the plural in Acts 11v26 where it simply says "And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch."

And it was because Greek was the language. It is but the beginning of the re-separation of the Good Shepherd's Original Flock from that Other Flock He had gathered with it.
One may say it was the beginning of the great apostasy of men.

 

[Aaron56]

I use Bible Hub. It gives a word count. After a bit more research, I found that some translators substituted "Christian" for "believer".

Bible Hub has most of the versions. King James is not the original. The Wycliffe version predates it. Funnily enough, so do the Greek and Hebrew originals.

I've never used the KJV. I use the words Christian/believer/brethren interchangeably myself. Do you think that Peter followed Roman customs? He was a fisherman, not a philosopher.

I don't know what you are trying to prove. Perhaps you could explain it. I'm not a philosopher either. Or a fisherman for that matter.

No, Peter did not follow Roman customs, but his writing reveals what I’m saying.

“Indeed, none of you should suffer as a murderer or thief or wrongdoer, or even as a meddler. But if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but glorify God that you bear that name.”

He is writing to believers who know that suffering for Christ is a staple of the gospel. There is no shame in this. Peter redresses the shame for suffering “as a Christian” because that is the label others put upon them. His encouragement was “They associate you with Christ! Glorify God!”

What arose out of this Roman influence, among others, was a systematic, religious system not anything like what we see between Christ and His disciples. And, nothing that fulfills the characteristics of a “holy nation”.

 

[Aaron56]

King James is not the original.

Of course. I wrote “the original KJV” because there are several versions of the KJV.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Of course. I wrote “the original KJV” because there are several versions of the KJV.

Those are not "versions" but updated changes in spelling, punctuation, etc. The original KJV matches our present KJV exactly in terms of content.

 

[JaumeJ]

Those are not "versions" but updated changes in spelling, punctuation, etc. The original KJV matches our present KJV exactly in terms of content.

This is a bit of a nit-pick. Of course there are versions of the KJV.

The original had included the Apocrypha. As for up-dated versions, yes, they too are versions.

 

[Blik]

My thoughts about who I am goes further back than most of these posts. I see myself as created by God and need to look to God for why he created me. I found that I was created a mortal who is dead in my sins, and I must do something about that. So I gave myself to God who gave me a new birth. That new person that I now am is forgiven all sin through Christ who died for me.

 

[posthuman]

Short version we are christian, I am a Christian, but what does that imply?
Christian was a slang term used by the romans to identify those who follow the Christ and his teachings.
The mormons say there christian, Jehovah witness say the same. Do you identify with them?
The Catholic Church say their christian do you identify with them.
Evangelicals say they are christian do you identify with them.
The list goes on and on to those who say there christian, so are all these religious affiliated groups christian?
According to Jesus and the gospels the saved in Christ are a distinct and peculiar people but christian is not used to identify them.
In fact Jesus himself asked others....who do you say that I am? Referring to himself. Not that he himself did not know but thought it important for others to know his identity.
So again I ask.....who are we?......who are you.

They will know by our love

 

[Nehemiah6]

This is a bit of a nit-pick. Of course there are versions of the KJV. The original had included the Apocrypha. As for up-dated versions, yes, they too are versions.

That is incorrect. A "version" is actually a revision of what was in the original. And there are no revisions between 1611 and 2022. Check it out for yourself since you want to nit-pick.

 

[JaumeJ]

With the Apocrypha would be another version. Stop here please.

From one Google,
Currently, there are more than 40 different versions in English, from the King James Version, which was published in 1611 and is still going strong, to modern versions, some of them in very simplified English. 4 What is the King James version of the Bible?

 

[pottersclay]

In the days of synagogue worship the jews called the gentiles who came to worship "God fearers".
Shortly after the Ascension those that followed the Christ were known as "of the way".
The romans not knowing or caring of core beliefs of individuals called them christian.
As the church grew they seemed to divide by there core beliefs and attached names to there christian belief to identify their core understanding of scripture. Even to the point of up holding a founders name such as Lutheran.
Baptist, pentecostal, roman Catholic, and so on.
Even today these churches break off once again into different names becoming less and less scriptural. Embracing theological doctrine over holy truth.
The sad part about this is it's all under the name of christianity.
Christian to me has become a generic term. Just as the romans termed it to be.
What separates us from the rest? Who and what do we believe? How do we look to the unbelievers.
How are (we) you different?