'Reductionist' versus 'Complete' view of the Gospel
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Ok, go back and see my posts and your responses. Now count how many of your responses were not to my post rather to a line take out of context to suit your designing way of perverting anyone's posts. You have dont that to just about everyone you have feigned dialoging with. Instead of addressing their posts done in honesty and faith, you take a line out of their post which does not reflect what the entire post is conveying.
I thought if you could do that, perhaps I could also. You do not like it appears, so stop doing that or you will be receiving this same attitude from ail of those other people who are perfecting you *not.
Now, in the future if you cannot address an entire post to which you claim to be responding, just stay away, it is a very unkind manner. God bless you to learn this and change your way.
I thought if you could do that, perhaps I could also. You do not like it appears, so stop doing that or you will be receiving this same attitude from ail of those other people who are perfecting you *not.
Now, in the future if you cannot address an entire post to which you claim to be responding, just stay away, it is a very unkind manner. God bless you to learn this and change your way.
Sir. I hear what you're saying. But I cannot honor your request. I do not have the time to address each point that is made in every long post that are offered in any given post. To date, not one person has ever done this for me. No one responds to each point in a post.
I'm sorry that you are upset with me and feel that I am not fair. I feel that I am in a corner and I don't know how to get out of it.
Also, I want you to listen to me and believe what I have to say. It is very important that you Trust and believe me on this:
I do not feel like a victim. Let's look at the definition of "Victim."
"One who is harmed by or made to suffer under a circumstance or condition."
Sir, no one is harming me. No one here is causing me to suffer. I say this gently . . . I am not a victim as you have labeled me. What I am doing is trying to make the point that we should all just be able to come here, make our points and if we don't agree . . . who cares! But when we begin to argue, my desire is that it would stop. Again, what I am trying to do is point out that we need to stop arguing. And again, I do not feel like a victim. I couldn't care less what anyone, here, says to me or about me. This is why I ask that people join me in a face-to-face video call . . . so that they can see that I'm not angry. I'm not upset. They would see that I am calm, happy and totally unoffended.
I am very sorry if my words seem harsh. But I need you to understand that these are just little black letters that make up words. But, there is no feeling in them. I am not what you think . . . if you were to speak with me, you would find that I am your friend. You would likely find that I would literally lay down my life to protect you. I am not your enemy, but your friend. I would do nearly anything to help you if I were able. I hope that you understand.
David
I'm sorry that you are upset with me and feel that I am not fair. I feel that I am in a corner and I don't know how to get out of it.
Also, I want you to listen to me and believe what I have to say. It is very important that you Trust and believe me on this:
I do not feel like a victim. Let's look at the definition of "Victim."
"One who is harmed by or made to suffer under a circumstance or condition."
Sir, no one is harming me. No one here is causing me to suffer. I say this gently . . . I am not a victim as you have labeled me. What I am doing is trying to make the point that we should all just be able to come here, make our points and if we don't agree . . . who cares! But when we begin to argue, my desire is that it would stop. Again, what I am trying to do is point out that we need to stop arguing. And again, I do not feel like a victim. I couldn't care less what anyone, here, says to me or about me. This is why I ask that people join me in a face-to-face video call . . . so that they can see that I'm not angry. I'm not upset. They would see that I am calm, happy and totally unoffended.
I am very sorry if my words seem harsh. But I need you to understand that these are just little black letters that make up words. But, there is no feeling in them. I am not what you think . . . if you were to speak with me, you would find that I am your friend. You would likely find that I would literally lay down my life to protect you. I am not your enemy, but your friend. I would do nearly anything to help you if I were able. I hope that you understand.
David
Not game playing but straightening out spiritual confusion. Repentance followed by faith followed by baptism is what we see in Scripture. The point is that water baptism is Christ's command for every Christian. Regardless of whether a person can fully understand its implications. Later on people will see how important it is.
Exactly! It still amazes me (to this day) that I used to think and feel that I was some sort of a Biblical Master, though I have never even read the Old Testament. Sure, I had read Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, and then petered out after that. And yes, I've read portions of the Old Testament for several decades . . . but I had never taken the time to read not only the entire OT, but I began to read it in a timeline, chronological order so that I could begin to understand the Story of God. And what is the Story of God? Well, that just happens to be the entire Gospel of Jesus Christ.
It's easy to tell, when talking to another person, if they understand the Bible in a timeline, chronological order, for by the simple way that they talk about the Bible makes it obvious. When a person begins to read the Bible with the below question in mind, THEN they will begin to understand.
What is the Gospel? What is the Mysterious Plan of God?
Note below that Paul asks for prayer that he be given the ability to clearly speak of and reveal this plan. That tells me that the Plan is not some simple little "thing" that we can disclose in simple terms like, "The Gospel is the Good News of Jesus Christ!" No, it is much more than that. In fact, it is so much more than Phillip needed to get up and in the Eunuchs chariot and have a seat. It takes time to fully explain. There is a context that spans all the way into the Old Testament, just as Phillip and the Eunuch made evident.
Ephesians 1:9 NLT - "God has now revealed to us his mysterious plan regarding Christ, a plan to fulfill his own good pleasure.
Ephesians 6:19 NLT - "And pray for me, too. Ask God to give me the right words so I can boldly explain God's mysterious plan that the Good News is for Jews and Gentiles alike."
Colossians 2:2 NLT - "I want them to be encouraged and knit together by strong ties of love. I want them to have complete confidence that they understand God's mysterious plan, which is Christ himself."
It's easy to tell, when talking to another person, if they understand the Bible in a timeline, chronological order, for by the simple way that they talk about the Bible makes it obvious. When a person begins to read the Bible with the below question in mind, THEN they will begin to understand.
What is the Gospel? What is the Mysterious Plan of God?
Note below that Paul asks for prayer that he be given the ability to clearly speak of and reveal this plan. That tells me that the Plan is not some simple little "thing" that we can disclose in simple terms like, "The Gospel is the Good News of Jesus Christ!" No, it is much more than that. In fact, it is so much more than Phillip needed to get up and in the Eunuchs chariot and have a seat. It takes time to fully explain. There is a context that spans all the way into the Old Testament, just as Phillip and the Eunuch made evident.
Ephesians 1:9 NLT - "God has now revealed to us his mysterious plan regarding Christ, a plan to fulfill his own good pleasure.
Ephesians 6:19 NLT - "And pray for me, too. Ask God to give me the right words so I can boldly explain God's mysterious plan that the Good News is for Jews and Gentiles alike."
Colossians 2:2 NLT - "I want them to be encouraged and knit together by strong ties of love. I want them to have complete confidence that they understand God's mysterious plan, which is Christ himself."
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If a person refused water baptism, it would be the same as a person refusing to be physically circumcised, for they both point to the exact same thing . . . commitment to Purity, Righteousness, and Holiness. And if this is True, then what was applicable to those who refused to be circumcised would be applicable to those who refuse the public display of water baptism (being ashamed of this public display).
Genesis 17:14 NLT - "Any male who fails to be circumcised will be cut off from the covenant family for breaking the covenant."
Shame is what we've been dealing with since Adam and Eve served the Devil.
Genesis 17:14 NLT - "Any male who fails to be circumcised will be cut off from the covenant family for breaking the covenant."
Shame is what we've been dealing with since Adam and Eve served the Devil.