Russia seizing US-Ukraine bioweapons labs in Ukraine

[ZNP]

Let me ask you a question. Should we have entered WW2?

What do you mean we? My dad fought in WWII when he was 12 years old, there is a historical marker in Pearl Harbor describing what happened. My grandfather was in the Navy. My grandmother was almost killed by shrapnel.

What exactly did you do in WWII?

If Russia bombs us like the Japanese did then yes, by all means we go after them.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

It seems you have never had to deal with the results war on family members.
My grandson was sent to Afghanistan twice.
The first time he was 18 years old.
The first time he went out on patrol, he was given a 12 gauge shotgun, had to lead 3 others int a building where he had to kill 4 men. He was 18 years old!
He said he knows he took the life of over 150 people and will have to live with that the rest of his life.
On his second time there at 20 years old, he was blown up and suffered brain damage that he will have to deal with for the rest of his life.
WHY!!!
What was accomplished?
A lot of arms manufactures got rich and shared that wealth with the politicians that sent this young man and many more to die and suffer.
This is not about protecting the US or any other nation.
It is about money and the power that money buys.
If you want to go, that is your choice.
I will not nor will I send anymore of my grandson to this madness.

This is irrelevant. A play on emotion and not logic. What happened on 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Their grandsons, sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, etc wasn't sent anywhere. The war found the mainland and our people died. That is the result of not playing an active role. In fact, you was just complaining about Europe countries should do more. Why? Wouldn't it just be better to not get involved?

So much more is at stake than just going to war. A destabilized Europe will directly affect the global economy and increase the threat of nuclear warfare which if left unchecked the fallout can easily hit wind currents and reach our border as well. Just as Chernobyl blew into Europe and many people got sick and died.

Then you have other countries looking to attack weakness like Taiwan.

I do not advocate for war but simply saying it will find us if left unchecked.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

What do you mean we? My dad fought in WWII when he was 12 years old, there is a historical marker in Pearl Harbor describing what happened. My grandfather was in the Navy. My grandmother was almost killed by shrapnel.

What exactly did you do in WWII?

If Russia bombs us like the Japanese did then yes, by all means we go after them.

Obviously from context we as in the US.

So you would rather wait until a 9/11 or Pearl Harbor before taking a positive action? Positive action doesn't just mean boots on the ground.

 

[RichMan]

This is irrelevant. A play on emotion and not logic. What happened on 9/11 or Pearl Harbor? Their grandsons, sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, etc wasn't sent anywhere. The war found the mainland and our people died. That is the result of not playing an active role. In fact, you was just complaining about Europe countries should do more. Why? Wouldn't it just be better to not get involved?

So much more is at stake than just going to war. A destabilized Europe will directly affect the global economy and increase the threat of nuclear warfare which if left unchecked the fallout can easily hit wind currents and reach our border as well. Just as Chernobyl blew into Europe and many people got sick and died.

Then you have other countries looking to attack weakness like Taiwan.

I do not advocate for war but simply saying it will find us if left unchecked.

Pearl Harbor happened because we stuck our nose in affairs that did not concern us and Roosevelt continued to push Japan until they attacked.
9/11 happened because we did not respond to the first threats and allows terrorists to enter and move freely unchecked into our nation.
LET THE EUROPEANS DEFEND EUROPE.
It's not my job nor my grandson's.
Sadly it is too late. War is coming. Many innocent will die. And just like all wars, the fault can be laid at the feet of a few politicians and those who blindly believe their rhetoric and support them.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Pearl Harbor happened because we stuck our nose in affairs that did not concern us and Roosevelt continued to push Japan until they attacked.
9/11 happened because we did not respond to the first threats and allows terrorists to enter and move freely unchecked into our nation.
LET THE EUROPEANS DEFEND EUROPE.
It's not my job nor my grandson's.
Sadly it is too late. War is coming. Many innocent will die. And just like all wars, the fault can be laid at the feet of a few politicians and those who blindly believe their rhetoric and support them.

No Pearl Harbor happened because we made strategically mistakes as to harbor many of our battleships beside each other in one harbor, we miscalculated the will and strategy of Japan, and we at no fault of anyone tried to stay out of war as long as possible but unfortunately it took many lives before we entered the inevitable.

9/11 occurred because George Bush Sr and Clinton let terrorist training camps intact after Desert Storm. We got out but left the enemy largely intact. Much like how Biden did in Iran. Of course, warnings was missed or ignored but we allowed an enemy to rise knowing they wanted to destroy us.

There is also the variable of allies and alliances. Would WW2 have been won if the only country left standing was America?

 

[RichMan]

No Pearl Harbor happened because we made strategically mistakes as to harbor many of our battleships beside each other in one harbor, we miscalculated the will and strategy of Japan, and we at no fault of anyone tried to stay out of war as long as possible but unfortunately it took many lives before we entered the inevitable.

9/11 occurred because George Bush Sr and Clinton let terrorist training camps intact after Desert Storm. We got out but left the enemy largely intact. Much like how Biden did in Iran. Of course, warnings was missed or ignored but we allowed an enemy to rise knowing they wanted to destroy us.

There is also the variable of allies and alliances. Would WW2 have been won if the only country left standing was America?

Believe as you please. Do as you please.
I will fight my next war when my locked gate is broken.
I will die to defend my family, but not a wicked world.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Believe as you please. Do as you please.
I will fight my next war when my locked gate is broken.
I will die to defend my family, but not a wicked world.

What of your neighbors?

In defense strategy you never want the full force of the enemy at your doorstep. Not only self-defense but national defense.

It is actually called,

deep defence or elastic defence a military strategy that seeks to delay rather than prevent the advance of an attacker, buying time and causing additional casualties by yielding space.

Rather than defeating an attacker with a single, strong defensive line, defence in depth relies on the tendency of an attack to lose momentum over time or as it covers a larger area.

This for a home could be things like a fence, locks, dogs, lights, alarms, etc that may deter or slow down the enemy giving you time to plan your defense or put your plans in motion.

For a nation we have to do the same for our borders. Just speaking of missiles alone, it would be better to have a defense before they fly over the border.

 

[ZNP]

Obviously from context we as in the US.

So you would rather wait until a 9/11 or Pearl Harbor before taking a positive action? Positive action doesn't just mean boots on the ground.

I have already said I support flying refugees out to the US. That is positive action.

9/11 was an inside job to manipulate us into going into Iraq. I have learned from that and don't want to be manipulated again.

BTW I met one of the 911 terrorists and reported him. I was going to get fired for that except 911 happened and they didn't want to be embarrassed publicly for not responding to my warning.

 

[RichMan]

What of your neighbors?

In defense strategy you never want the full force of the enemy at your doorstep. Not only self-defense but national defense.

It is actually called,

deep defence or elastic defence a military strategy that seeks to delay rather than prevent the advance of an attacker, buying time and causing additional casualties by yielding space.

Rather than defeating an attacker with a single, strong defensive line, defence in depth relies on the tendency of an attack to lose momentum over time or as it covers a larger area.

This for a home could be things like a fence, locks, dogs, lights, alarms, etc that may deter or slow down the enemy giving you time to plan your defense or put your plans in motion.

For a nation we have to do the same for our borders. Just speaking of missiles alone, it would be better to have a defense before they fly over the border.

I have warned my neighbors and invited them to join me, but they think I am nuts to think the US could ever fall.

 

[ZNP]

I have warned my neighbors and invited them to join me, but they think I am nuts to think the US could ever fall.

 

[RichMan]

I see where Biden has finally decided to stop buying Russian oil.
Everyone had better get ready for shortages, rationing, and un-affordable prices.
I remember the 80's when we waited in line every other day to get our 10 gallons only to be told they just ran out and we would have to wait two more days to try again.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I have warned my neighbors and invited them to join me, but they think I am nuts to think the US could ever fall.

That is the last resort when it possibly could be prevented altogether.

 

[RichMan]

That is the last resort when it possibly could be prevented altogether.

The possibly of prevention past long ago.

 

[JStates]

I will say I'm not impressed with ProphecyClub. I reached out to Stan with a question about one of his videos; he said that Khazakstan is a region in Ukraine and they are Moloch worshipers which is why Putin is being used by God to clear them out. But Khazakstan and Ukraine are separate countries and not even neighboring each other.

I asked him if he had any explanatory material or other information about this... he took the time to reply but his answer was this: "No." Exactly that. I have a problem with people who cannot explain their truth claims or give a general direction at least where others can look for more info.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

The possibly of prevention past long ago.

It is never too late to try and prevent any escalation. I'd hate to have a leader with that mentality.

 

[RichMan]

It is never too late to try and prevent any escalation. I'd hate to have a leader with that mentality.

There comes a time when we must look at reality.
There was a time when God told Isiah not to pray for Israel, He would not hear.
Judgement is coming. Don't kid yourself. Do what you can to prepare. Get right with God. And prey.

 

[gb9]

There comes a time when we must look at reality.
There was a time when God told Isiah not to pray for Israel, He would not hear.
Judgement is coming. Don't kid yourself. Do what you can to prepare. Get right with God. And prey.

america has long since ceased to be a Christian nation.

proff- spend some time on twitter. you will see how far we have fallen.

 

[JStates]

The United States has now admitted the existence of bioweapons labs in Ukraine near Russian border.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ine-following-china-russia-accusations-video/

 

[ZNP]

There comes a time when we must look at reality.
There was a time when God told Isiah not to pray for Israel, He would not hear.
Judgement is coming. Don't kid yourself. Do what you can to prepare. Get right with God. And prey.

Prey??

 

[ZNP]

The United States has now admitted the existence of bioweapons labs in Ukraine near Russian border.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ine-following-china-russia-accusations-video/

Oops, everyday the justification for Russia's invasion grows.