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It's confusing when all they do is talk about women. If they're so happy being single, then why not talk about something else? 
It helps that, with both MGTOW and conspiracy theorists, they can clothe their bitter tirades in "we need to warn you about those people." Then they can feel good about ranting so much about the people they hate.
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It's confusing when all they do is talk about women. If they're so happy being single, then why not talk about something else?
I think it's part education and part bonding. I actually bought a book and watch a few youtube channels.
If men don't talk about issues, how will others know that there are people, who are going through the same thing?!?!
It's like wise elders telling the youngsters what's going on. I'm guessing you never heard of mentoring? lol
Not gonna mention any youtube channel in specific, but someone breaks down arguments that woman have, and dismantles them by using logic. Not insults, but rational thinking. Sort of like what I'm doing now. lol
I will admit this MGTOW thing is rather new, so not a spokesperson by any means, but it's important for men to have an outlet for a man's perspective. This isn't wrong in my book. There a plenty of woman's groups out there.
To answer your question more direct, I have tried many times to steer the singles forum away from relationship topics, but all hope is lost. It's just part of the forum and it has been that way for some time.
It's confusing when all they do is talk about women. If they're so happy being single, then why not talk about something else?
Heh, they sound like clubs for axe grinders
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Why do the men say women over 30 are worthless?
Why do these women complain about men not doing "housework"?
I mean even if they both work, who's going out to fix the car/lawnmower/snowblower, mow the lawn, shovel the snow, fix the mailbox, garbage disposal, fix/replace the toilet, carbon monoxide and fire detector, maintain the furnace, hotwater heater, saltwater tank, maintain the outside property fill-in concrete cracks, pave the drive, kill the weeds, goffers, mice, ants, take out the garbage, pick up the dog doodoo and change the lightbulbs? I mean, lot's of husbands I know do all that and help setting the table, make some meals, do the dishes and help with housework because they love their wives, but the expectation of needing to help with 'housework' makes we wonder if these women are jumping up to do all the prior things in this list. There's a lot of traditional divisions of labor that are just practical, but every couple have their own skills and preferences as to how they break responsibilities up.
What sort of emotional needs are they talking about?
The only people I hear talking angrily about the opposite sex is from people with righteous indignation.
Why do these women complain about men not doing "housework"?
I mean even if they both work, who's going out to fix the car/lawnmower/snowblower, mow the lawn, shovel the snow, fix the mailbox, garbage disposal, fix/replace the toilet, carbon monoxide and fire detector, maintain the furnace, hotwater heater, saltwater tank, maintain the outside property fill-in concrete cracks, pave the drive, kill the weeds, goffers, mice, ants, take out the garbage, pick up the dog doodoo and change the lightbulbs? I mean, lot's of husbands I know do all that and help setting the table, make some meals, do the dishes and help with housework because they love their wives, but the expectation of needing to help with 'housework' makes we wonder if these women are jumping up to do all the prior things in this list. There's a lot of traditional divisions of labor that are just practical, but every couple have their own skills and preferences as to how they break responsibilities up.
What sort of emotional needs are they talking about?
The only people I hear talking angrily about the opposite sex is from people with righteous indignation.
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The Picture I posted previously is an illustrative way to show the differences in thinking …Not to show that women are crazy or don’t know where they are going …
There are unique and wonderful differences between how women and men think none of which is set in stone…. but typically, a man is linear or sequential in thinking…. and a women tend to spiderweb things… or more circular undulating.
There are a few things missing from the picture that could be added to both sides. On the woman’s side I would put shelves and compartments ….on the men’s side I would put boxes…and maybe rooms with boxes.
Starting with the men: We have boxes or rooms that we put things in….. it is more distinctive than a woman’s compartment. The rooms might contain several boxes that are related (that’s about as close as we get to multitasking) We have boxes for everything, like…. Work, Personal relationships, family, activities, sports, research, entertainment, responsibilities, friends, vehicles..…everything! ………they are all categorized, and we open the box when it’s time to participate in that. After we are done, we close the box….
And YES…. all men have a “nothing box” that we visit frequently……in computer terms, it is almost a default box. So when you ask us what we are thinking about ….Many times we try to cover ourselves ….we quickly start searching for the relationship boxes so we can come up with the right answer ….but when we say NOTHING …we really mean it. This is very puzzling to women because they can’t do this.
Women are very different: The spiderweb is a great illustration of a woman’s mind ….everything is tied together ….and I will not pretend to know how it works …but it does and it’s unique and beautiful and …. sometimes scarry.
Everything is connected to everything …which is why Women remember things, because they attach emotion to it, and when you attach emotions to something, it is etched in your memory. When I say everything is attached to everything, Guys…. you have no idea….I have no idea. But I can tell you… The noise you made from eating soup two years ago, is why you didn’t take out the garbage last night.
Some points of interest for guys
If something is not settled in a woman’s minds it goes on the shelf…. where it is readily accessible. This could be brought up two days from now or 10 years from now …and it might be in the form of “you never” or “you always”. (those words should never be use in a relationship)
A woman needs to talk things (problems) through….. completely…from every angle,,, because it is attached to many things in the spiderweb…not just the issue you are talking about. Yes, it is beating a dead horse… No, I don’t understand…. Yes, that is the way it is. So….. what would take a couple of guys 2 minutes to deal with ….you might want to block out an hour or two.
If a woman has a problem or situation that she is talking to you about.… DO NOT… try to fix it, or offer a solution. If she ask’s you what you think → LISTEN… LISTEN…. LISTEN…. if she asks for a solution, offer a solution in the form of a question….she will get there on her own ….and she will thank you for it.
If a woman says “We need to talk” this is not a 5 minutes and we got it settled …you should block out at least an hour….and depending on the voice inflection …it could be much longer….don’t try to cut this short or it will end up on the shelf and not the compartment.
“If nothing is wrong” when she is visible upset…. trust me, something is very wrong…. and only a fool says “ok” and walks away….don’t ever walk away….. She just may need some cuttle time. And, If and when she starts to express her feelings …listen between the lines of what she is saying….it’s somewhere in there ….I’m sorry guys it does seem complicated but….. IF YOU LOVED HER YOU SHOULD KNOW…. You are on your own with that line….. it varies with the situation and with the woman…I can tell you…. that humility works best…I have tried the smart aleck retorts ….didn’t go well.
The beauty of the minds of the man and woman is they complement each other in an odd curious sort of way….People who put the other sex down just don’t understand the design and maybe humor of God.
There are unique and wonderful differences between how women and men think none of which is set in stone…. but typically, a man is linear or sequential in thinking…. and a women tend to spiderweb things… or more circular undulating.
There are a few things missing from the picture that could be added to both sides. On the woman’s side I would put shelves and compartments ….on the men’s side I would put boxes…and maybe rooms with boxes.
Starting with the men: We have boxes or rooms that we put things in….. it is more distinctive than a woman’s compartment. The rooms might contain several boxes that are related (that’s about as close as we get to multitasking) We have boxes for everything, like…. Work, Personal relationships, family, activities, sports, research, entertainment, responsibilities, friends, vehicles..…everything! ………they are all categorized, and we open the box when it’s time to participate in that. After we are done, we close the box….
And YES…. all men have a “nothing box” that we visit frequently……in computer terms, it is almost a default box. So when you ask us what we are thinking about ….Many times we try to cover ourselves ….we quickly start searching for the relationship boxes so we can come up with the right answer ….but when we say NOTHING …we really mean it. This is very puzzling to women because they can’t do this.
Women are very different: The spiderweb is a great illustration of a woman’s mind ….everything is tied together ….and I will not pretend to know how it works …but it does and it’s unique and beautiful and …. sometimes scarry.
Everything is connected to everything …which is why Women remember things, because they attach emotion to it, and when you attach emotions to something, it is etched in your memory. When I say everything is attached to everything, Guys…. you have no idea….I have no idea. But I can tell you… The noise you made from eating soup two years ago, is why you didn’t take out the garbage last night.
Some points of interest for guys
If something is not settled in a woman’s minds it goes on the shelf…. where it is readily accessible. This could be brought up two days from now or 10 years from now …and it might be in the form of “you never” or “you always”. (those words should never be use in a relationship)
A woman needs to talk things (problems) through….. completely…from every angle,,, because it is attached to many things in the spiderweb…not just the issue you are talking about. Yes, it is beating a dead horse… No, I don’t understand…. Yes, that is the way it is. So….. what would take a couple of guys 2 minutes to deal with ….you might want to block out an hour or two.
If a woman has a problem or situation that she is talking to you about.… DO NOT… try to fix it, or offer a solution. If she ask’s you what you think → LISTEN… LISTEN…. LISTEN…. if she asks for a solution, offer a solution in the form of a question….she will get there on her own ….and she will thank you for it.
If a woman says “We need to talk” this is not a 5 minutes and we got it settled …you should block out at least an hour….and depending on the voice inflection …it could be much longer….don’t try to cut this short or it will end up on the shelf and not the compartment.
“If nothing is wrong” when she is visible upset…. trust me, something is very wrong…. and only a fool says “ok” and walks away….don’t ever walk away….. She just may need some cuttle time. And, If and when she starts to express her feelings …listen between the lines of what she is saying….it’s somewhere in there ….I’m sorry guys it does seem complicated but….. IF YOU LOVED HER YOU SHOULD KNOW…. You are on your own with that line….. it varies with the situation and with the woman…I can tell you…. that humility works best…I have tried the smart aleck retorts ….didn’t go well.
The beauty of the minds of the man and woman is they complement each other in an odd curious sort of way….People who put the other sex down just don’t understand the design and maybe humor of God.
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The name of this Thread is -----
Why do men and women hate each other?
I personally don't think men and women Hate each other ---Hate is a strong word -----
I personally say they struggle for power over each other or there is conflict between them ------
Your answer lies in Genesis 3:16 ---where God curses Eve for her disobedience -----
God created both Adam and Eve to be equal ---to be a support for each other ---Love one another ---Eve was created to be a strong helper to Adam -----there was peace and harmony between them -----
God Cursed Eve and having her husband rule over her was one of her Curses as well as having pain in child birth ----
The Conflict between men and women started there ------Genesis 3:16 Amp
3:16 To the woman He said, I will greatly multiply your grief {and} your suffering in pregnancy {and} the pangs of childbearing; with spasms of distress you will bring forth children. Yet your desire {and} craving will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.
I say ------So because of Eve's disobedience we women have an inferiority complex and feel lesser than men and are constantly struggling to be the same as men -----
Here is the thing will all the Feminist movements and all the struggling women go through to have equality with men is futile ---as this Curse was deemed by God and it will remain in place until Jesus comes back and fixes this earth to be renewed where all people will remain equal in their Spiritual state ----
Now that being said ---If the woman and man in marriage accepts Christ as their Lord and saviour that Curse is then broken and the Blessing is in place which then one sees that there is no unequal partner they are equal as they are one under Christ -----they are to love one another and support one another in harmony and peace -----
Galatians 3:28 AMP
AMP
There is [now no distinction in regard to salvation] neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you [who believe] are all one in Christ Jesus [no one can claim a spiritual superiority].
Why do men and women hate each other?
I personally don't think men and women Hate each other ---Hate is a strong word -----
I personally say they struggle for power over each other or there is conflict between them ------
Your answer lies in Genesis 3:16 ---where God curses Eve for her disobedience -----
God created both Adam and Eve to be equal ---to be a support for each other ---Love one another ---Eve was created to be a strong helper to Adam -----there was peace and harmony between them -----
God Cursed Eve and having her husband rule over her was one of her Curses as well as having pain in child birth ----
The Conflict between men and women started there ------Genesis 3:16 Amp
3:16 To the woman He said, I will greatly multiply your grief {and} your suffering in pregnancy {and} the pangs of childbearing; with spasms of distress you will bring forth children. Yet your desire {and} craving will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.
I say ------So because of Eve's disobedience we women have an inferiority complex and feel lesser than men and are constantly struggling to be the same as men -----
Here is the thing will all the Feminist movements and all the struggling women go through to have equality with men is futile ---as this Curse was deemed by God and it will remain in place until Jesus comes back and fixes this earth to be renewed where all people will remain equal in their Spiritual state ----
Now that being said ---If the woman and man in marriage accepts Christ as their Lord and saviour that Curse is then broken and the Blessing is in place which then one sees that there is no unequal partner they are equal as they are one under Christ -----they are to love one another and support one another in harmony and peace -----
Galatians 3:28 AMP
AMP
There is [now no distinction in regard to salvation] neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you [who believe] are all one in Christ Jesus [no one can claim a spiritual superiority].
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my mum got mad at my dad when he painted the new letterbox then refused to install it, saying he had done his job. I am not sure who else is going to do it since I dont actually have the tools to put it on.
I just told my friend who was dropping off stuff for me to leave it outside on the berm. She'll know what house is ours by the falling apart letterbox.
my mum complains about housework too and I never hear the end of it. My dad just wears headphones
But I figure if you dont want to do housework dont live in a house, you can just live in a tent. OR if you really dont want to do housework, have lots of children train them then PAY your children to do it.
I am sure there are also groups consisting of children who complain about their parents. Its not that they hate them they are just really hard to live with sometimes.
I once worked in retirement villages where people under the age of 50 were banned from living there. Its not that the oldies hated kids...well ok some of them did. But it seems they thought kids were too noisy and dumb to live there. Just kidding.
Im sure they had a good reason. Maybe if you do really love someone, you shouldnt live with them! But just admire them from afar.
I just told my friend who was dropping off stuff for me to leave it outside on the berm. She'll know what house is ours by the falling apart letterbox.
my mum complains about housework too and I never hear the end of it. My dad just wears headphones
But I figure if you dont want to do housework dont live in a house, you can just live in a tent. OR if you really dont want to do housework, have lots of children train them then PAY your children to do it.
I am sure there are also groups consisting of children who complain about their parents. Its not that they hate them they are just really hard to live with sometimes.
I once worked in retirement villages where people under the age of 50 were banned from living there. Its not that the oldies hated kids...well ok some of them did. But it seems they thought kids were too noisy and dumb to live there. Just kidding.
Im sure they had a good reason. Maybe if you do really love someone, you shouldnt live with them! But just admire them from afar.
I put up our new mail box last year. It came in like a kit but nothing really matched and it was a nightmare to put together and install in the ground. Now the thing is leaning to one side. Going to have to get some big rocks to prop it up. If that fails then maybe have to mix some quikrete, dig around the sides and pour it in. Funny story about your dad though.
In regards to housework, I do all of the dishwashing, take out the trash, occasional grocery shopping and am tasked to cook dinner 3 times a month. Also clean and change the kitty litter box and get the mail every day. In the summer I mow the lawn every week or so and rake the leaves.
I like that headphone idea of your dad.
In regards to housework, I do all of the dishwashing, take out the trash, occasional grocery shopping and am tasked to cook dinner 3 times a month. Also clean and change the kitty litter box and get the mail every day. In the summer I mow the lawn every week or so and rake the leaves.
I like that headphone idea of your dad.
some things are just hard to do
like..having a baby is hard work. They dont call it labour for nothing
clearing thorns and thistles from the ground is also hard. They also grow back.
I dont know why humans are cursed to do these things when they could just live in a garden without clothes on and eat from trees like us birds do but but they do. sigh
like..having a baby is hard work. They dont call it labour for nothing
clearing thorns and thistles from the ground is also hard. They also grow back.
I dont know why humans are cursed to do these things when they could just live in a garden without clothes on and eat from trees like us birds do but but they do. sigh
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I've seen metion of men doing some handyman jobs so housework is a womans job...well this woman can and does also cut grass, change toilet seats, kills bugs, can change tires if i have to...it doesnt hurt a fellow to rinse up after himself every once in a while. A couple should balance eachother out. Why cant we share all the chores/experiences ? I love getting my hands dirty working on things..
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Okay so obviously not all of them hate each other...but a good portion of people online and especially on sites like Reddit and Youtube seem to form these two groups of people: one for men and one for women. A lot of the time the content/posts these groups make are to talk trash about the opposite sex.
For example, MGTOW and Red Pill groups claim that all women are the same and that they shouldn't be trusted because they just want money. Some of these guys advise younger men to not even bother with marriage because the woman usually initiates a divorce and takes the children with her along with his money. Guys in these groups say women over 30 are worthless.
There are women groups like the one above that pretty much say the same thing but of men. Again, they tell young women not to get married or have babies because men don't help with housework or they cannot meet their emotional needs. They sometimes poke fun at men who cannot do things around the house. Women in these groups talk trash about short men.
This type of thinking is toxic and unhealthy but I see it everyday online and sometimes even in person.
Why is this happening? Why are people so angry against the opposite gender? Is there a way to fix this type of thinking?
For example, MGTOW and Red Pill groups claim that all women are the same and that they shouldn't be trusted because they just want money. Some of these guys advise younger men to not even bother with marriage because the woman usually initiates a divorce and takes the children with her along with his money. Guys in these groups say women over 30 are worthless.
There are women groups like the one above that pretty much say the same thing but of men. Again, they tell young women not to get married or have babies because men don't help with housework or they cannot meet their emotional needs. They sometimes poke fun at men who cannot do things around the house. Women in these groups talk trash about short men.
This type of thinking is toxic and unhealthy but I see it everyday online and sometimes even in person.
Why is this happening? Why are people so angry against the opposite gender? Is there a way to fix this type of thinking?
Hurt is inevitable. Avoiding relationships will reduce that risk.
These are people trying to talk themselves into staying single by venting their reasons.
It can't be fixed. Life is too short to read trashy stuff on the internet.