We need to take another look at The Garden of Eden

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Magenta said:
All my sins were covered the moment I came to believe. Jesus fulfilled all righteousness.

If it were up to each of us to remain absolutely sinless following conviction and
conversion, probably nobody would be saved. Jesus was sinless. We are not.

That is why we need to put on HIS righteousness.


Repent, believe in your heart, confess with your mouth. It is not a magic formula to never sin again.


Romans 10:9
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Do you know what hyper grace is?

Jeremiah 6:16
Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

2 Peter 1:9
But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
 
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DanielLL said:
No blood offering, of beast or bird, or man, can take away sin, for how can the conscience be purged from sin by the shedding of innocent blood? Nay, it will increase the condemnation.
The priests indeed receive such offering as reconciliation of the worshippers for the trespasses against the law of Moses, but for sins against the Law of God there can be no remission, save by repentance and amendment.
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This is one of THE most heretical things I've ever seen coming from a Christian on this site.
I would go so far as to say it's the spirit of antichrist.
Plain and simple!
 
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PennEd said:
This is one of THE most heretical things I've ever seen coming from a Christian on this site.
I would go so far as to say it's the spirit of antichrist.
Plain and simple!
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It's not Bible, but it almost looks like it at first glance until you think about what it's actually saying. I had to look it up, apparently it's something called Lection 33 from The Gospel of the Holy Twelve. It's definitely something new age and contradicts the Bible obviously.
 
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Here is what i don't get ...where does Scripture say repeated willful sin is Covered? Are you pretending that it isn't a sin? Cause if you are ...that's what that tree of knowledge is about.
 
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Obey-JESUS said:
Here is what i don't get ...where does Scripture say repeated willful sin is Covered? Are you pretending that it isn't a sin? Cause if you are ...that's what that tree of knowledge is about.
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Yelling (using an excessively large font or all caps) is not going to get you anywhere.

And no, that is not what the tree of knowledge is about. As I said previously, you may be quoting Scripture (in other posts) but you clearly do not understand it. Please, stop trying to teach others when you are so badly in need of sound instruction yourself.
 
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Oblio said:
Obey-JESUS has a similar teaching to DanielLL in that they both focus on the knowledge
of good and evil. They both showed up around the same time. Just sayin...
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And Sudakar.
 
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Runningman said:
It's not Bible, but it almost looks like it at first glance until you think about what it's actually saying. I had to look it up, apparently it's something called Lection 33 from The Gospel of the Holy Twelve. It's definitely something new age and contradicts the Bible obviously.
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If you can provide a link for the source, include it in a Report to the Moderator here. Since the OP isn't interested in receiving sound biblical teaching, he needs to be shown the door.
 
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If you can provide a link for the source, include it in a Report to the Moderator here. Since the OP isn't interested in receiving sound biblical teaching, he needs to be shown the door.
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i didn't write what he is talking about, but nice try.
 
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Do you see the world as a place to fulfil your lusts of self-idolatry ...sex, drugs, and entertainment? If so, GOD is a GOD of the living ...not your dead spirit. You don't have a love relationship with Him ...you don't have life while being a slave to sin. You stop lusting after you are a Child of GOD. You either become compatible with peaceful Infinity ...or you don't.

Mark 12:27​
He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. ...
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Colossians 3:2​
Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
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The following says only those Born of GOD are capable of Biblical Love ...unless you are claiming to know Him with repeated willful sin in your life? How did you NOT Overcome anything if you know Him?

1 John 4:7​
Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.​
 
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Obey-JESUS said:
2 Peter 1:9
But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
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And? In context, 2 Peter 1:9 says nothing to the effect that believers will never sin again.

 
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And? In context, 2 Peter 1:9 says nothing to the effect that believers will never sin again.
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Yeah, people read that and don't notice that "self-control" is right in the middle of building your Faith. Not a lot of self-control happening with repeated willful sin.
 
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Runningman said:
Hebrews 9:22
22And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
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The priests indeed receive such offering as reconciliation of the worshippers for the trespasses against the law of Moses, but for sins against the Law of God there can be no remission, save by repentance and amendment.
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it's the spirit of antichrist.
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The thief comes to kill/sheed innocent blood of sheep. But the Father wants Life.

John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
 
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Obey-JESUS said:
Yeah, people read that and don't notice that "self-control" is right in the middle of
building your Faith. Not a lot of self-control happening with repeated willful sin.
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Not a lot of understanding among those who think sinning abruptly stops forever after believing.

Notice too that "building your faith" is there, which strongly suggests a process. Take note.
 
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DanielLL said:
The priests indeed receive such offering as reconciliation of the worshippers for the trespasses against the law of Moses, but for sins against the Law of God there can be no remission, save by repentance and amendment.
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Why are you quoting from (Link to Google books) The Gospel of the Holy Twelve, but you won't cite the source? But when you actually quote scripture you include the book, chapter, and verse? It looks like you're trying to pass extra Biblical material off as scripture. You're posting it many places around the forum, too.
 
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