Inflation 👂👂📌📌

[JTB]

Seeing how you say you are not a Christian, this is the ONLY thing you need. You came to this site to cause trouble, but maybe the Lord wants you to be here to hear THIS:

THE Gospel unto Salvation:
God wrapped Himself in human flesh in the form of His Son, Jesus the Messiah. Conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of a virgin. He suffered, was crucified, and died to pay OUR sin debt. He was raised to life from the grave to prove He had defeated death. If you confess Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that His Father resurrected Him to Life on the 3rd day, you WILL be saved. You will be filled, and sealed with the Holy Spirit, who will empower ALL to turn from their sins. The sin of adultery, lying, stealing, homosexuality, gossip, slander, drunkenness, covetousness, etc... And most importantly the sin of DEAD works, or a moral life in an attempt to EARN Salvation. He will also equip you to love like He did and do good works for HIS Glory.

 

[JTB]

The employees at McDonald's do a whole lot more than just flip burgers. If the cashiers at a union shop are unhappy with the wages they are free to try somewhere else. Unions protect the least productive, without which some of these employees would be out of a job. I really don't have a favorable opinion on unions. Unions have played a part in having US manufacturing shipped to China or Mexico.

When most employers are having a race to the bottom, telling someone to "find another employer" is a straw man.

So is saying that unions, trying to uphold a middle class standard, are the reason jobs are going overseas.

Do you really think the best way for this country to compete with third-world economies is by becoming one? Because that's what your proposals here are preaching.

Yes Joe American worker, if some 5 year old kid in China can work for $2 an hour, so can you!

 

[RichMan]

This country is all about freedom.
I will fight to defend your freedom.
But there must be a balance.
Your freedom can not limit my freedom.
When a right gives you an advantage over me, that is not the American way.
Surely we can agree on that.

 

[Nihilianth]

This country is all about freedom.
I will fight to defend your freedom.
But there must be a balance.
Your freedom can not limit my freedom.
When a right gives you an advantage over me, that is not the American way.
Surely we can agree on that.

That's the beauty of Constitutional law. This is typically a go-to argument of mine, and one I forgot to mention in a previous post where I talked about "responsibility."

Yes, freedoms CAN cross paths. The classic example is yelling "fire" in a crowded theater just to set people into a panic.

Do you know what the 9th and 10th amendments are, before I go any further, and the purpose they both serve?

 

[RichMan]

When most employers are having a race to the bottom, telling someone to "find another employer" is a straw man.

So is saying that unions, trying to uphold a middle class standard, are the reason jobs are going overseas.

Do you really think the best way for this country to compete with third-world economies is by becoming one? Because that's what your proposals here are preaching.

Yes Joe American worker, if some 5 year old kid in China can work for $2 an hour, so can you!

This would not be the case if people would just say no to those imports.
Walmart has become so successful because of the American workers wanted to pay less.

 

[RichMan]

That's the beauty of Constitutional law. This is typically a go-to argument of mine, and one I forgot to mention in a previous post where I talked about "responsibility."

Yes, freedoms CAN cross paths. The classic example is yelling "fire" in a crowded theater just to set people into a panic.

Do you know what the 9th and 10th amendments are, before I go any further, and the purpose they both serve?

I agree. But when one starts yelling left wing or right wing court got it wrong, that is the beginning of the end of the rule of law.

 

[Nihilianth]

I agree. But when one starts yelling left wing or right wing court got it wrong, that is the beginning of the end of the rule of law.

Indeed. That's where you need to use logic, rather than emotion, to formulate an argument. That's the height of what "freedom" and it's responsibility is supposed to be. To listen to an argument. Counter the argument or accept that you were incorrect. You come to a much more accurate and better conclusion.

 

[ZNP]

 

[tourist]

When most employers are having a race to the bottom, telling someone to "find another employer" is a straw man.

So is saying that unions, trying to uphold a middle class standard, are the reason jobs are going overseas.

Do you really think the best way for this country to compete with third-world economies is by becoming one? Because that's what your proposals here are preaching.

Yes Joe American worker, if some 5 year old kid in China can work for $2 an hour, so can you!

Unions have wrecked havoc in the auto industry. Most of those high paying jobs are now in China, Mexico, or South Korea being done at a fraction of the cost. There is nothing wrong at all trying to uphold a middle-class standard. The thing is, there is no middle-class anymore. I'm not proposing anything,. just took exception of the disparaging McDonald's workers comment.

 

[Handyman62]

No, grammatically that was a question. But obviously your intent is to dodge so I'll wish you well and move on.

I see you're still as dense as a stone. But hey that's your choice.

 

[ZNP]

 

[Handyman62]

And here is the problem--
You do not see that $60 per hour does not add to inflation.
These people who make $60 per hour are the same that complain about the increased price of a hamburger so that McDonald's can make $14 per hour, or the price of milk because that grocery store clerk makes $15 per hour.
Seems to be the attitude of so many, I need more money, but do not raise the price.
It has never worked that way. It can not work that way.

I remember watching a humorous video that I believe Jesse Watters put together before he had his own show. It was about some purported union workers that were picketing a Walmart because they weren't unionized and didn't pay their employees more than minimum wage or provide benefits.
What was funny about it was that the picketers weren't union workers at all, but temporary people hired by the union and were only paid minimum wage and given no benefits.

 

[JTB]

This would not be the case if people would just say no to those imports.
Walmart has become so successful because of the American workers wanted to pay less.

That's true, when you buy those products made by 5 year old kids earning $2 an hour, you are complicit. But that goes back to the greed element. Do I want to pay 10 bucks for a framistaff made in timbuktoo or do I want to pay $20 for one made by an american so he can have a better way of life? Up until the 50's/60's the answer was to support the American. But then the national mantra went from 'one for all and all for one' to 'me-me-me I'm the one'. Screw that burger flipper, let him find his own health care. Too, I'd be more inclined to spend the $20 if I knew it was going to the guy I actually interact in the market with instead of buying the boss a bigger yacht. Again greed raises it's ugly head. I buy the cheaper item because I know it's not really going to help the people who need it.

Unions have wrecked havoc in the auto industry. Most of those high paying jobs are now in China, Mexico, or South Korea being done at a fraction of the cost. There is nothing wrong at all trying to uphold a middle-class standard. The thing is, there is no middle-class anymore. I'm not proposing anything,. just took exception of the disparaging McDonald's workers comment.

Yes, the lure of cheap labor (which only exists under the shadow of poverty), has drawn jobs out of the country. No middle class jobs, no middle class, right? Again do we compete with third world economies by becoming one?

I see you're still as dense as a stone. But hey that's your choice.

He who resorts to insults has lost his case.

Bless you and goodbye

 

[Handyman62]

He who resorts to insults has lost his case.

Bless you and goodbye

What case have I lost? Oh and by the way that's a question and not a statement. See the difference? Wait a minute is that another question? Why yes it was. See how easy it is to ask an actual question. You should try it sometime.

 

[Nihilianth]

Unions have wrecked havoc in the auto industry. Most of those high paying jobs are now in China, Mexico, or South Korea being done at a fraction of the cost. There is nothing wrong at all trying to uphold a middle-class standard. The thing is, there is no middle-class anymore. I'm not proposing anything,. just took exception of the disparaging McDonald's workers comment.

So you're going to sit here and pick and choose one single industry, just because it suits your needs? And you only chose cars? What about commercial vehicles? We outproduce China in CMVs. So. There!

Also, remember that China has about 4.5 times the population as the United States. When you take total manufacturing per Capita, it take four Chinese workers to produce what one American worker can produce.

We also have much better and more efficient infrastructure (thanks, taxes in the mid-20th century, as well as thank you, FDR and Eisenhower!) Connections on the world's two largest oceans that can go directly to four major continents, and the harbors to handle the traffic. Again, thanks to high taxes on upper incomes and investment into this country!

As JBF said above, what do you want us to do? Perform a race to the bottom so Joe American Worker can get paid $5/day, the same as an 8 year old Chinese kid? You offer up no solutions. Just criticisms of American workers wanting the American Dream!

 

[Nihilianth]

What case have I lost? Oh and by the way that's a question and not a statement. See the difference? Wait a minute is that another question? Why yes it was. See how easy it is to ask an actual question. You should try it sometime.

What are you blabbering on about? He responded to your post where you decided to sling an insult in an unchristian fashion, rather than actually address the argument. You couldn't address the argument, because you don't have an actual argument to make. Instead of admitting you were wrong, you decided to go completely off-topic and break the forum rules instead by being disrespectful. If you actually had a case, you would have made it, rather than resort to childish antics.

PS:

I really need to learn to use the multi quote function. My bad everyone. I'll do better in the future.

 

[Oblio]

 

[ZNP]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fertilizer-prices-just-hit-record-174439996.html

Fertilizer prices just hit a record high sparking fears of global starvation and the worst food insecurity level since World War II

 

[Handyman62]

Perhaps he will tell us what the going rate is for trolls now with our newly enacted inflation.

 

[ZNP]

According to Rasmussen poll 64% of Americans blame Biden for the inflation

These are the wrong questions! There are Americans who see this as the end of the age, the apocalypse, the Lord's day and that all things are under God. There are other Americans who take the word to "not grumble" to heart. Then there are Americans who are so disinterested in politics they don't know and don't care.

Also I would point out that in these days where the DOJ is weaponized against parents at school board meetings people will be concerned about the word "blame". I think the word "responsible" is a far better word to use. I also think this question should be framed in the negative. If you ask if Biden is responsible it suggests "fully" or "totally". It is reasonable that many are seeing many factors. But if you ask if Biden is not responsible then those who don't hold him fully responsible would also respond.

Instead, I suspect you will get something like 22% saying Biden is not responsible. This is not wild speculation but based on a variety of polls that we have seen in the last year and the bias we see in their responses towards the democrats.