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[SIZE=+2] Witchcraft in America [/SIZE] NOTE: The following article is excerpted in its entirety from the March, 1988 issue of _Criminal Intelligence Report_ ("America's Only Professional Crime News Magazine"), pages 4-7. The February and March issues include a remarkably lengthy "enemies list" (which will eventually be scanned or re- keyed as SUSPECTS.CIR); these lists are accompanied by articles entitled "Satanism and Crime" (which will eventually be available here as S-CRIME.CIR) and the following article. - J. Brad Hicks Sysop WeirdBase, FidoNet 1:100/523 MagickNet Echo Conference Moderator Data: 1-314-741-2231, 2400 baud ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ W I T C H C R A F T I N A M E R I C A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Since our last isue, David Brom, 16, of Rochester, Minnesota who is described as a serious Church going youth, killed four members of his family with an axe. CIR has learned that teenagers in the Rochester area have been frequenting caves where detailed drawings of satanic emblems adorn the walls. Also, Brom had been reading satanic literature and had become so attracted to hard rock that the day of the slayings he had shaved the sides of his head and fashioned is hair into the spiked punk style. According to Sandy Gallant of the San Francisco police department's intelligence division, who is a recognized expert on Satanic crime, there is a relationship between hard rock music and occult violence. Because of what is obviously becoming a disturbing trend in our society, we have collected the following background material for your examination. The current growth of witchcraft (the craft of the _wicca_ or wise ones) can be dated to 1951, when the last of the British witchcraft laws was repealed, and to the subsequent publication in 1954 of _Witchcraft Today_ by Gerald Gardner, a self-proclaimed witch from the Isle of Man in Britain. Gardner's book signaled to the world that witches still existed. His work was based upon the thesis of Margaret Murray that witchcraft had existed since pre-Christian times in small, scattered occult groups practicing the old pagan religion and hidden in fear of persecution. Most contemporary witches have accepted Murray's historical thesis, but the legitimacy of her conclusions is now a matter of intense debate in the occult community. There can be little doubt that various, mostly agricultural religions existed in Europe at the time that the Christian Church was in the process of becoming the dominant religious form of Europe. There is also little doubt that in the 1400's, the church turned its Inquisitional powers on something called witchcraft. What was described as witchcraft was a mixture of the local religions, a number of things the church wanted to supress, and some things wholly in the imagination of the early inquisitors. It was during this era that various new images of witchcraft, particularly the one connecting it with Satan worship, were published. Many men, women and even children died in the witch scare that gripped Europe in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. In the face of the myth of satanic witchcraft, some genuine Satanists and even genuine witches arose. The most famous incident was the Black Mass scandal which rocked the court of Louis XIV and led to the arrest of more than three hundred persons. In the 1670's, Madame LaVoisin, one of Louis XIV's mistresses, suspected she was losing Louis' affection and hired a priest to say Black Masses, hoping thereby to win back the king. Some of the masses included the killing of babies; some of the masses were offered on Madame LaVoisin's nude body. Louis imprisoned or banished the participants in the heinous affairs. Contemporary witchcraft bears little resemblance to the witchcraft described in the literature of the witchcraft trials. Going beyond the medieval image, modern witches try to separate themselves from any connection with Satanism. Rather than reacting to Christianity (i.e., being anti- Christians), they see themselves as an alternative faith (like Buddhism or Islam). As magicians, they have selected the old faiths of Europe with which to identify. Just what are the elements of wicaan [sic] faith? This question is not an easy one to answer, there being a wide variety of definitions in the literature. First, witchcraft is a religion. There is much more to the adherents' faith than just magick. Witchcraft offers a world-view, a relationship to deity and an ethical code. Of course, magick and psychic development are a part of the religion; much of the ritual and energy of witches is spent in their practice. "Witchcraft is the raising and manipulation of psychic power," says one witch. Wicca is polytheist, finding its pantheon in various European pre- Christian nature religions. The prime deities ar the Goddess and God, usually represented as the Triple Goddess and Horned God. The triple aspects of the Goddess are maiden, mother, and crone. There are different explanations of the origin of these gods, although most agree that the Goddess is ascendent in modern cultic expressions. Psychic development, besides being training for magick, is also for communion with the deity. (The Horned God was connected with Satan by medieval witch-hunters, and Satan has been pictured since with a goatee and cloven hoofs.) The two essential books of the witch are the grimoire and the book of shadows. The grimoire is the book of spells and magical procedures. The best known grimoiries are medieval: the _Greater Key of Solomon the King_ and _The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abra-Melin the Mage_. The book of shadows is the traditional book of rituals. According to custom, it is copied by hand by each individual witch, and thus no two copies are alike. The basic organization of witches is the coven, though there is also an associational tie between covens of like belief and practice, especially where one coven has broken off from another and owes its initiation to the other. Such a relationship exists in the Gardnerian covens. The coven consists of 13 people (an optimum number which may vary from four to twenty) who meet regularly to practice witchcraft. The regular meeting of the coven is called an esbat; but eight times a year there are seasonal festivals, sabbats. The most famous festival is October 31, Halloween. Others include Candlemas or Oimelc (February 2), May Eve or Beltane (April 30), August Eve or Lammas (August 1), and the lesser sabbats - the two solstices (June 22 and December 22) and the equinoxes (March 21 and September 21). The eight festivals are reflected in the common practice of publishing witch-oriented periodicals eight times a year. Most covens have both a basic initiation and higher initiations which are reserved for potential and actual priests and priestesses, who are the coven leaders. There are usually three degrees which require a year and a day between each initiation. Work within the coven is done with the magick circle, a circle nine feet in diameter, drawn on the floor or ground. Magick is done within the circle, which functions both for protection and concentration. Within the circle are placed the various magical items. They include the _athame_, a ritual knife; the _pentacle_, a disc-shaped talisman; a chalice; and a sword. These items vary from coven to coven. The _athame_ is the most ubiquitous. Many covens worship in the nude (i.e., skyclad); but in most, street clothes or ritual robes are worn. When the robe is worn it is bound with a cord, the color of which designates the degree of initiation. The work of the coven covers all religious practices (psychic healing and problem-solving playing a big part) and includes hand fasting (marriage). Witches share with all magicians a belief in reincarnation and the manipulative world-view. They also place belief in the power of spells. They cast spells for themselves and others, for their own betterment (financially, sexually) and, on rare occasions, against someone else. For most witches, the magical world-view is tempered by a poetic-mystical appreciation of nature. In their writings are numerous references to ecology, being natural and, in a few cases, vegetarianism. For most, acceptance of the gods is a poetic expression of attunement with the forces of life. AFRICAN WITCHCRAFT Voodoo, the major folk religion of Haiti, is an African form of magick and witchcraft mixed with New World elements, complete with the ruling mother goddess, a pantheon of lesser deities (correlated to specific human needs), a psychic ritual and a manipulative world-view. Voodoo has a significant history in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries particularly in the Creole country. In the nineteenth century, Dr. John and, later, Marie Laveau, the voodoo queen of New Orleans, openly flaunted their magical powers in public. They were followed by Dr. Alexander and Lou Johnson. For a number of reasons, modern witchcraft practice has had little input from voodooism, apart from the romantic aura of the word. This lack of intercourse can be traced to a number of elements, the same that have prevented many books on voodoo from appearing. Voodoo is not a literary religion; this source material must be gathered directly from practitioners. Practitioners are few in number and hard to find. The are mostly members of the black community or recent immigrants from the Caribbean. The latter often have a language problem.
 

zone

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WHAT'S ALL THAT SPAM?

more EXCUSES FOR YOU TO pretend you're CASTING OUT DEVILS?

keep it up Linda: YOU ARE IN SATAN'S CAMP AND YOU LIKE IT.

i am sick to death of the HYPER-CHARISMATICS AND THE LIKE PRETENDING THEY ARE FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS.

YOU'RE PAGANS.
 
May 21, 2009
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WHAT'S ALL THAT SPAM?

more EXCUSES FOR YOU TO pretend you're CASTING OUT DEVILS?

keep it up Linda: YOU ARE IN SATAN'S CAMP AND YOU LIKE IT.

i am sick to death of the HYPER-CHARISMATICS AND THE LIKE PRETENDING THEY ARE FAITHFUL CHRISTIANS.

YOU'RE PAGANS.

You said you would never bring down a strong hold or tell Satan to get away from you.
You need to read the bible.
I get tired of your antichrist attitude too.
Life is fun when you do it the way Jesus said, try it.
 

zone

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You said you would never bring down a strong hold or tell Satan to get away from you.
You need to read the bible.
I get tired of your antichrist attitude too.
Life is fun when you do it the way Jesus said, try it.
1) YOU HAVE no clue WHAT A STRONGHOLD IS BIBLICALLY
2) here: GET THEE HENCE O SATAN! for thou savorist the things of MAN, AND NOT GOD!
3) you need TO GET A BIBLE and learn to read.
4) i've seen what happens to people who do what you do.....NO EARS, NO EYES. HEADLONG OVER THE CLIFF.

Matthew 15:14
Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
 
May 2, 2011
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This is certainly a good and important topic. I would prefer to see you open the discussion
with some scripture references, then a short summary of any article such as the one
posted, then the use of paragraphs, to aid in reading.

I myself have agonized over whether to post such long posts since there is an ability to
add attachment files. I compromised and summarized or excerpted the article and added
reference links.

In addition, can you tell how satanism in an earlier thread is different in your view
(or scripture's view) from witchcraft (and how it might be similar)?

There is a Pokemon thread in the teen forum where I was impressed with the insight and
wisdom of some of the younger generation as it pertains to witchcraft. Perhaps a short
list of a few simple examples would help open the discussion. I'll start with one --

I have been arrested, detained of jailed many times for nothing. I believe this is
witchcraft that prompts the attacks, and satanism that responds to them.

Tell us more ... make it easy on us though. What about Harry Potter, Pokemon, and other
related common examples?
 
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DiscipleWilliam

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A paragraph is only supposed to have (6) sentences in it, not a hundred and thirty ;)
 
May 6, 2011
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Loveschild...you realize that article is like 23 years old right?
 
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Scotth1960

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[SIZE=+2] Witchcraft in America [/SIZE] NOTE: The following article is excerpted in its entirety from the March, 1988 issue of _Criminal Intelligence Report_ ("America's Only Professional Crime News Magazine"), pages 4-7. The February and March issues include a remarkably lengthy "enemies list" (which will eventually be scanned or re- keyed as SUSPECTS.CIR); these lists are accompanied by articles entitled "Satanism and Crime" (which will eventually be available here as S-CRIME.CIR) and the following article. - J. Brad Hicks Sysop WeirdBase, FidoNet 1:100/523 MagickNet Echo Conference Moderator Data: 1-314-741-2231, 2400 baud ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ W I T C H C R A F T I N A M E R I C A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Since our last isue, David Brom, 16, of Rochester, Minnesota who is described as a serious Church going youth, killed four members of his family with an axe. CIR has learned that teenagers in the Rochester area have been frequenting caves where detailed drawings of satanic emblems adorn the walls. Also, Brom had been reading satanic literature and had become so attracted to hard rock that the day of the slayings he had shaved the sides of his head and fashioned is hair into the spiked punk style. According to Sandy Gallant of the San Francisco police department's intelligence division, who is a recognized expert on Satanic crime, there is a relationship between hard rock music and occult violence. Because of what is obviously becoming a disturbing trend in our society, we have collected the following background material for your examination. The current growth of witchcraft (the craft of the _wicca_ or wise ones) can be dated to 1951, when the last of the British witchcraft laws was repealed, and to the subsequent publication in 1954 of _Witchcraft Today_ by Gerald Gardner, a self-proclaimed witch from the Isle of Man in Britain. Gardner's book signaled to the world that witches still existed. His work was based upon the thesis of Margaret Murray that witchcraft had existed since pre-Christian times in small, scattered occult groups practicing the old pagan religion and hidden in fear of persecution. Most contemporary witches have accepted Murray's historical thesis, but the legitimacy of her conclusions is now a matter of intense debate in the occult community. There can be little doubt that various, mostly agricultural religions existed in Europe at the time that the Christian Church was in the process of becoming the dominant religious form of Europe. There is also little doubt that in the 1400's, the church turned its Inquisitional powers on something called witchcraft. What was described as witchcraft was a mixture of the local religions, a number of things the church wanted to supress, and some things wholly in the imagination of the early inquisitors. It was during this era that various new images of witchcraft, particularly the one connecting it with Satan worship, were published. Many men, women and even children died in the witch scare that gripped Europe in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries. In the face of the myth of satanic witchcraft, some genuine Satanists and even genuine witches arose. The most famous incident was the Black Mass scandal which rocked the court of Louis XIV and led to the arrest of more than three hundred persons. In the 1670's, Madame LaVoisin, one of Louis XIV's mistresses, suspected she was losing Louis' affection and hired a priest to say Black Masses, hoping thereby to win back the king. Some of the masses included the killing of babies; some of the masses were offered on Madame LaVoisin's nude body. Louis imprisoned or banished the participants in the heinous affairs. Contemporary witchcraft bears little resemblance to the witchcraft described in the literature of the witchcraft trials. Going beyond the medieval image, modern witches try to separate themselves from any connection with Satanism. Rather than reacting to Christianity (i.e., being anti- Christians), they see themselves as an alternative faith (like Buddhism or Islam). As magicians, they have selected the old faiths of Europe with which to identify. Just what are the elements of wicaan [sic] faith? This question is not an easy one to answer, there being a wide variety of definitions in the literature. First, witchcraft is a religion. There is much more to the adherents' faith than just magick. Witchcraft offers a world-view, a relationship to deity and an ethical code. Of course, magick and psychic development are a part of the religion; much of the ritual and energy of witches is spent in their practice. "Witchcraft is the raising and manipulation of psychic power," says one witch. Wicca is polytheist, finding its pantheon in various European pre- Christian nature religions. The prime deities ar the Goddess and God, usually represented as the Triple Goddess and Horned God. The triple aspects of the Goddess are maiden, mother, and crone. There are different explanations of the origin of these gods, although most agree that the Goddess is ascendent in modern cultic expressions. Psychic development, besides being training for magick, is also for communion with the deity. (The Horned God was connected with Satan by medieval witch-hunters, and Satan has been pictured since with a goatee and cloven hoofs.) The two essential books of the witch are the grimoire and the book of shadows. The grimoire is the book of spells and magical procedures. The best known grimoiries are medieval: the _Greater Key of Solomon the King_ and _The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abra-Melin the Mage_. The book of shadows is the traditional book of rituals. According to custom, it is copied by hand by each individual witch, and thus no two copies are alike. The basic organization of witches is the coven, though there is also an associational tie between covens of like belief and practice, especially where one coven has broken off from another and owes its initiation to the other. Such a relationship exists in the Gardnerian covens. The coven consists of 13 people (an optimum number which may vary from four to twenty) who meet regularly to practice witchcraft. The regular meeting of the coven is called an esbat; but eight times a year there are seasonal festivals, sabbats. The most famous festival is October 31, Halloween. Others include Candlemas or Oimelc (February 2), May Eve or Beltane (April 30), August Eve or Lammas (August 1), and the lesser sabbats - the two solstices (June 22 and December 22) and the equinoxes (March 21 and September 21). The eight festivals are reflected in the common practice of publishing witch-oriented periodicals eight times a year. Most covens have both a basic initiation and higher initiations which are reserved for potential and actual priests and priestesses, who are the coven leaders. There are usually three degrees which require a year and a day between each initiation. Work within the coven is done with the magick circle, a circle nine feet in diameter, drawn on the floor or ground. Magick is done within the circle, which functions both for protection and concentration. Within the circle are placed the various magical items. They include the _athame_, a ritual knife; the _pentacle_, a disc-shaped talisman; a chalice; and a sword. These items vary from coven to coven. The _athame_ is the most ubiquitous. Many covens worship in the nude (i.e., skyclad); but in most, street clothes or ritual robes are worn. When the robe is worn it is bound with a cord, the color of which designates the degree of initiation. The work of the coven covers all religious practices (psychic healing and problem-solving playing a big part) and includes hand fasting (marriage). Witches share with all magicians a belief in reincarnation and the manipulative world-view. They also place belief in the power of spells. They cast spells for themselves and others, for their own betterment (financially, sexually) and, on rare occasions, against someone else. For most witches, the magical world-view is tempered by a poetic-mystical appreciation of nature. In their writings are numerous references to ecology, being natural and, in a few cases, vegetarianism. For most, acceptance of the gods is a poetic expression of attunement with the forces of life. AFRICAN WITCHCRAFT Voodoo, the major folk religion of Haiti, is an African form of magick and witchcraft mixed with New World elements, complete with the ruling mother goddess, a pantheon of lesser deities (correlated to specific human needs), a psychic ritual and a manipulative world-view. Voodoo has a significant history in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries particularly in the Creole country. In the nineteenth century, Dr. John and, later, Marie Laveau, the voodoo queen of New Orleans, openly flaunted their magical powers in public. They were followed by Dr. Alexander and Lou Johnson. For a number of reasons, modern witchcraft practice has had little input from voodooism, apart from the romantic aura of the word. This lack of intercourse can be traced to a number of elements, the same that have prevented many books on voodoo from appearing. Voodoo is not a literary religion; this source material must be gathered directly from practitioners. Practitioners are few in number and hard to find. The are mostly members of the black community or recent immigrants from the Caribbean. The latter often have a language problem.
This is too much. We are responsible before God for our own sins. We can't blame everything on the devil. And we must call upon the LORD to deliver us from the evil one. Because yes, there is a devil. We should be more concerned with serving God and in all things seeking His mercy and forgiveness, since we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It's not healthy to look to much at Witchcraft and Satanism. We only need to call on God and ask God to deliver us from satan. It's better to not focus so much on how sinful America is, or Americans are, but on how much God has blessed us and forgiven so many sinful people in His mercy, because, as sinful as we all are, God is love. His mercy endureth forever.

 
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This is too much.

We are responsible before God for our own sins. We can't blame everything on the devil.
And we must call upon the LORD to deliver us from the evil one.
Because yes, there is a devil.

We should be more concerned with serving God and in all things seeking His mercy and
forgiveness, since we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It's not healthy
to look to much at Witchcraft and Satanism.

We only need to call on God and ask God to deliver us from Satan. It's better to not focus
so much on how sinful America is, or Americans are, but on how much God has blessed us
and forgiven so many sinful people in His mercy, because, as sinful as we all are, God is
love.

His mercy endureth forever.

Scotth1960: You can reply to other's messages/posts with a simple Quick Reply, or
alternatively, you can Multi-Quote only certain parts of someone else's post for a
reference. Note how I edited your post here.


I presume you have something meaningful to say -- but much of it get's lost from the
start by re-posting
something you are not specifically directing your post/response to.
 
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This is too much.

We are responsible before God for our own sins. We can't blame everything on the devil.
And we must call upon the LORD to deliver us from the evil one.

Because yes, there is a devil.

We should be more concerned with serving God and in all things seeking His mercy and
forgiveness, since we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It's not healthy
to look to much at Witchcraft and Satanism. We only need to call on God and ask God to
deliver us from satan. It's better to not focus so much on how sinful America is, or
Americans are, but on how much God has blessed us and forgiven so many sinful people in
His mercy, because, as sinful as we all are, God is love. His mercy endureth forever.

106 times DEVIL is mentioned in the King James, just 4 in the Old Testament. I agree, our
focus should be affirmative, on the Doctrines of Christ and The Way. But these Doctrines
include reproof and rebuke. We cannot ignore evil, but should not focus on it, other than
to warn and call out/away from evil behaviors and evil systems. How else shall that man
of perdition be revealed?

Leviticus 17:7
And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a
whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.

Deuteronomy 32:17
They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that
came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.

2 Chronicles 11:15
And he ordained him priests for the high places, and for the devils, and for the calves
which he had made.

Psalm 106:37
Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,

Matthew 13:39
The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the
reapers are the angels.

Mark 16:17
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they
shall speak with new tongues;

Luke 11:20
But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

1 Corinthians 10:21
Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the
Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the
faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

1 Peter 5:8
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about,
seeking whom he may devour:

Revelation 18:2
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and
is become the habitation of devils
, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every
unclean and hateful bird.
 

phil36

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That must be the biggest paragraph I have ever seen.
 
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AnandaHya

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This is too much. We are responsible before God for our own sins. We can't blame everything on the devil. And we must call upon the LORD to deliver us from the evil one. Because yes, there is a devil. We should be more concerned with serving God and in all things seeking His mercy and forgiveness, since we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It's not healthy to look to much at Witchcraft and Satanism. We only need to call on God and ask God to deliver us from satan. It's better to not focus so much on how sinful America is, or Americans are, but on how much God has blessed us and forgiven so many sinful people in His mercy, because, as sinful as we all are, God is love. His mercy endureth forever.

Amen, brother Scott. God is love. His mercy endureth forever. we should focus on" how much God has blessed us and forgiven so many sinful people in His mercy" :)

Jude 1:9
Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”
 
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This is certainly a good and important topic. I would prefer to see you open the discussion
with some scripture references, then a short summary of any article such as the one
posted, then the use of paragraphs, to aid in reading.

I myself have agonized over whether to post such long posts since there is an ability to
add attachment files. I compromised and summarized or excerpted the article and added
reference links.

In addition, can you tell how satanism in an earlier thread is different in your view
(or scripture's view) from witchcraft (and how it might be similar)?

There is a Pokemon thread in the teen forum where I was impressed with the insight and
wisdom of some of the younger generation as it pertains to witchcraft. Perhaps a short
list of a few simple examples would help open the discussion. I'll start with one --

I have been arrested, detained of jailed many times for nothing. I believe this is
witchcraft that prompts the attacks, and satanism that responds to them.

Tell us more ... make it easy on us though. What about Harry Potter, Pokemon, and other
related common examples?

I would love to hear your thoughts I've read about Satanist being in charge of the courts, jails and all.
Usually when I say anything I get all jumped on. I've been trying to tell people for a long to time wake up to what is happening around us but some get all mad at me. And the Satanist that get assigned to churches and Christian sites to cause trouble surely doesn't help.
I have to go to bible study. I'm glad to of talked to a nice person.
 
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I would love to hear your thoughts I've read about Satanist being in charge of the courts, jails and all.
Usually when I say anything I get all jumped on. I've been trying to tell people for a long to time wake up to what is happening around us but some get all mad at me. And the Satanist that get assigned to churches and Christian sites to cause trouble surely doesn't help.
I have to go to bible study. I'm glad to of talked to a nice person.


The reason is is that its tiring hearing about satan...we fight him all day. Every unsaved person on earth is taken captive by him at his will. Yes all the movers and shakers in the world worship him and have for thousands of years, a good part of the church is run by him.

And it will get progressivly worst till our Lord returns. So what is the point to talk about the obvious?
The duty we have is to preach the gospel. Nothing else to do but preach the gospel, thats all that will deliver and heal anyone.

If you want them out of the churches then preach the gospel, and rid it of heresy. There in the church
to preach heresy, but we dont wanna rock the boat and be unloving, so fine have satan in the church,
I gaurantee if you teach the true word they will hate it and leave.

Talk more of how to overcome him, tell of how he comes into churches by lying doctrines and cunning
procedures and maybe more people would have interest...but to just say the obvious isnt that interesting.

So what do you mean for people to wake up? Do you really think people dont know about satan? Is that becuase they dont like to give him their time to talk about him? Im sure they know...talk about his devices, tricks, schemes, and how to renew the mind to stand against him...study and help strengthen
the brethren with knowledge...not just a reminder that we already know.
 
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Hi Loveschild, Even though that article was old, I enjoyed reading it. I have come across a few witches in my lifetime. The last one was about 2 years ago. She was a beautiful person with a real warm heart. She believed she was doing good and also said she believed in God (along with a hundred other gods) I had a good talk to her about the scriptures. I showed her gently how God warns us to stay away from these things & how he is a jealous God, wanting us to serve only him and no other. She was speechless, and realised that she knew nothing about the true God. She had no wisdom to share with me. Whatever she lived for at that moment had no power over the truth. She also Had no idea that God considers her beliefs evil. She also looked so afraid and went white like a ghost. Something touched her that day, but I guess, it was taken away later. I heard that she has since gone mad. I dont know, maybe one day she will realise and the Lord will draw her to him. Some have to go down that wrong path first to find truth later.

I believe witchcraft is hidden every-where. On TV and in magazines & newspapers they have the starsigns, how to do spells, fortune tellers, everything associated with the occult. People love it. It draws in our young and vulnerable, even our old. They have no idea what they are getting into. I think it's good to get to the roots of witchcraft and show these people what it really is. EVIL. If we know the truth first, then any information about the occult can only be beneficial, because you never know when you will meet a witch and if we know what they are doing in their practise, then we can take them straight to the scriptures relating to that.

Thank you for the other good articles you have posted. Very informative.
 
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AnandaHya

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scriptures about witchcraft?

Deuteronomy 18:10
There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,

1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft,And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, He also has rejected you from being king.”
1 Samuel 15:22-24 (in Context) 1 Samuel 15 (Whole Chapter)
2 Kings 9:22
Now it happened, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, “Is it peace, Jehu?” So he answered, “What peace, as long as the harlotries of your mother Jezebel and her witchcraft are so many?”

2 Kings 17:17
And they caused their sons and daughters to pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and soothsaying, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger.

2 Kings 21:6
Also he made his son pass through the fire, practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft, and consulted spiritists and mediums. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger.

2 Chronicles 33:6
Also he caused his sons to pass through the fire in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom; he practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft and sorcery, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger.


now what is soothsaying? it is very similar to fortune telling and may people claiming to be prophets of Christ practice it. you can tell the difference by if they try and predict the future of if they try and lead people to Jesus Christ as Lord and savior. Example of soothsaying or divination: saying you can predict the month or year of Christ return.


Acts 16:16-19
New King James Version (NKJV)
Paul and Silas Imprisoned


16 Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. 17 This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” 18 And this she did for many days.
But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very hour. 19 But when her masters saw that their hope of profit was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace to the authorities

 
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scriptures about witchcraft?

Deuteronomy 18:10
There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,

1 Samuel 15:23
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft,And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the LORD, He also has rejected you from being king.”
1 Samuel 15:22-24 (in Context) 1 Samuel 15 (Whole Chapter)
2 Kings 9:22
Now it happened, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, “Is it peace, Jehu?” So he answered, “What peace, as long as the harlotries of your mother Jezebel and her witchcraft are so many?”

2 Kings 17:17
And they caused their sons and daughters to pass through the fire, practiced witchcraft and soothsaying, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger.

2 Kings 21:6
Also he made his son pass through the fire, practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft, and consulted spiritists and mediums. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger.

2 Chronicles 33:6
Also he caused his sons to pass through the fire in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom; he practiced soothsaying, used witchcraft and sorcery, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke Him to anger.
thats Good, Ananda and there are heaps more .....
now what is soothsaying? it is very similar to fortune telling and may people claiming to be prophets of Christ practice it. you can tell the difference by if they try and predict the future of if they try and lead people to Jesus Christ as Lord and savior. Example of soothsaying or divination: saying you can predict the month or year of Christ return.
No one can predict anything, only God can because he is all knowing. He does give us clues in the scriptures and even mentions the exact no. of years and no of days, and it all starts from when Israel became a nation again in 1948. Thats the key, and it is so simple once you understand... Only God can give knowledge, for it all belongs to him.

SO OUR MINISTRY IS NOT TO RUN AROUND TELLING PEOPLE WHEN EXACTLY CHRIST WILL COME, BECAUSE IF ANY OF US DIED TODAY THEN HE HAS ALREADY COME, AND TODAY IS THE DAY OF SALVATION, NOT TOMORROW OR THE EXACT TIME HE COMES FOR IT WILL BE TOO LATE THEN AND THE DOORS OF THE ARK WILL BE LONG CLOSED...BUT WE PREACH TO FEED ON CHRIST'S FLESH, THE WORD OF GOD AND ABSORB TRUTH INTO OUR SPIRITS AND THE WORD OF GOD WILL REVEAL ALL THINGS, TO ANYONE WHO IS SEARCHING FOR TRUTH. WE FIND THIS THROUGH THE WRITTEN WORD. THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD IS ALIVE AND IS SPIRIT.IF WE FEED ON THIS SPIRIT, THEN WE WILL BE HOLY ALSO, AS OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN AND OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST IS HOLY AND HE WILL DELIVER US FROM PARTICIPATING WITH THOSE THAT TRAMPLE THE TRUTH TO THE GROUND & WILL GIVE US FREEDOM IN HIS LOVE AND GUIDANCE FOR THE SPIRIT TO MATURE & RECIEVE OUR REWARD OF SALVATION AND EVERLASTING LIFE.... FOR THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE.