The restoration of all things

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I have 2 questions regarding the restoration of all things.

CAN GOD RESTORE LUCIFER?

WILL GOD RESTORE LUCIFER?
 

Dino246

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Can? Yes; for nothing is impossible with God.

Will? No; the devil's end in the lake of fire is clearly prophesied in Revelation.
 

TheDivineWatermark

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It seems to me that saying "the restoration of all things" is rather different from saying "[until the times of] restoration of all things of which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from the age." [Did they speak of the restoring of Satan or Lucifer in the end? No.]








"whom indeed it behooves heaven to receive until the times of restoration of all things of which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from the age." - Acts 3:21
 

soberxp

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I have 2 questions regarding the restoration of all things.

CAN GOD RESTORE LUCIFER?

WILL GOD RESTORE LUCIFER?
LUCIFER? There is no such angel, this is people's conjecture, so ask a new question.

CAN GOD save Satan?



WILL GOD save Satan?
 
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LUCIFER? There is no such angel, this is people's conjecture, so ask a new question.

CAN GOD save Satan?



WILL GOD save Satan?
Sure, Can God restore Satan? Will God redeem the Devil?
 

Eli1

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I don’t know why you’re fixated on saving Satan but try to help the fellow man in suffering first, that would be my suggestion.
I dont have a lot of money to help everyone but I try to help with as much as I can financially, emotionally and physically.
 

John146

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I have 2 questions regarding the restoration of all things.

CAN GOD RESTORE LUCIFER?

WILL GOD RESTORE LUCIFER?
No, God cannot redeem Satan because his word has already stated his outcome, the lake of fire.
 
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Can God make exceptions? Because I have read about God doing that somewhere.
God cannot go against His own word, so no He cannot make an exception and restore him... I have read about God that is not a human and He cannot lie somewhere :)
 

Pilgrimshope

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I have 2 questions regarding the restoration of all things.

CAN GOD RESTORE LUCIFER?

WILL GOD RESTORE LUCIFER?
nope God cannot lie and he’s already eternally condemned Satan

“in hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:10‬ ‭

I would let the ideas about satans redemption go and definately not pray for him. And start focusing on what the Bible does actually tell us to do and be saved mostly regarding Satan were
Meant to totally avoid him when We can and resist him at every point when he comes near he’s the opposite of everything we want and believe and need as Christians

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:41, 46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Satan can’t be saved we understand this because God can’t tell a lie d he says he’s going to be tormented forever and ever eternally punished in the lake of fire

he’s the root of every evil that’s ever been done on earth he’s why he’ll was created and why man dies at all everything wrong in creation sprang from his roots he is the epitome of evil and darkness his influence is always contrary to God he is the nature of evil and deception the source of all lies and murder theft and adultery death and disease famine and pestilence it’s all rooted in satans corruption of mankind he’s irredeemable for sure

every child of God that dies is rooted in him , every sin known is rooted in him he is the actual exact opposite from God darkness and light have no relationship

what’s with all the questions about praying for satans redemption and God restoring him ?
 
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nope God cannot lie and he’s already eternally condemned Satan

“in hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:10‬ ‭

I would let the ideas about satans redemption go and definately not pray for him. And start focusing on what the Bible does actually tell us to do and be saved mostly regarding Satan were
Meant to totally avoid him when We can and resist him at every point when he comes near he’s the opposite of everything we want and believe and need as Christians

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:41, 46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Satan can’t be saved we understand this because God can’t tell a lie d he says he’s going to be tormented forever and ever eternally punished in the lake of fire

he’s the root of every evil that’s ever been done on earth he’s why he’ll was created and why man dies at all everything wrong in creation sprang from his roots he is the epitome of evil and darkness his influence is always contrary to God he is the nature of evil and deception the source of all lies and murder theft and adultery death and disease famine and pestilence it’s all rooted in satans corruption of mankind he’s irredeemable for sure

every child of God that dies is rooted in him , every sin known is rooted in him he is the actual exact opposite from God darkness and light have no relationship

what’s with all the questions about praying for satans redemption and God restoring him ?
Just something my heavenly Father showed me recently has opened my eyes to more of His will than what has been revealed in the bible book. It is exciting to say the least. It is absolutely awesome. But possibly all truth from God comes by revelation. I am ok with that too because then it isn't up to Paul or anyone else to reveal truth to us but the Spirit of Christ. This took the pressure off Paul and Jesus' followers back in his day right down to today. We who are God's ambassadors, His messengers only have a light burden to carry as our Lord and Master said. It's been very comforting to experience this over more recent times. I hope to share this revelation with others in the future. Again it has given me a new perceptive of my heavenly Father. This particular twist in God's eternal story is brilliant!
 
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So God cannot lie, yes that I accept is truth. But can He change His mind or can God go against something He had previously said for us to do then tell us not to do it? The answer seems to be yes again. Even stories in the bible book record this.
 
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NO! your master will not be restored! he lied to you.
Now that is an interesting statement Jesus follower. So are you saying that our Father in heaven and our Master Jesus are liars, that God lied to his child and Jesus lied to His younger sibling?
 
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I don’t know why you’re fixated on saving Satan but try to help the fellow man in suffering first, that would be my suggestion.
I dont have a lot of money to help everyone but I try to help with as much as I can financially, emotionally and physically.
Excellent Eli1, thanks for displaying and reveling our God's loving kindness to your fellow man in such practical ways. Yet I find I have time to pray for them, have faith in God to redeem them and do good deeds that involve them. And then I find I have time to pray for Satan from time to time as the Spirit of Truth leads me. So time isn't much of an issue, for me anyway. It may mean I forgo watching something, listening to something or even spend less time on this chat site as will likely be the case in the future but it's been good to engage with you fine people over the past week. I've recovered form my illness and now back to other commitment for me.
 
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nope God cannot lie and he’s already eternally condemned Satan

“in hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭1:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭20:10‬ ‭

I would let the ideas about satans redemption go and definately not pray for him. And start focusing on what the Bible does actually tell us to do and be saved mostly regarding Satan were
Meant to totally avoid him when We can and resist him at every point when he comes near he’s the opposite of everything we want and believe and need as Christians

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:41, 46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Satan can’t be saved we understand this because God can’t tell a lie d he says he’s going to be tormented forever and ever eternally punished in the lake of fire

he’s the root of every evil that’s ever been done on earth he’s why he’ll was created and why man dies at all everything wrong in creation sprang from his roots he is the epitome of evil and darkness his influence is always contrary to God he is the nature of evil and deception the source of all lies and murder theft and adultery death and disease famine and pestilence it’s all rooted in satans corruption of mankind he’s irredeemable for sure

every child of God that dies is rooted in him , every sin known is rooted in him he is the actual exact opposite from God darkness and light have no relationship

what’s with all the questions about praying for satans redemption and God restoring him ?
Yes Pilgrimshope I agree that there are many references in the bible book alone relating to the lake of fire where Satan will find himself as a result of his wrongdoing and the period of time he will spend there. Now, the accuracy in translations and the interpretations and descriptions of the writers of the place and period are somewhat questionable. But above that is what the Spirit of Truth is saying to us, even now, today. Can God change His mind on something? Can He say one thing then decide to do another? What I know of God the answer is yes. Even within the bible narrative it reveals that to be the truth.
 

SomeDisciple

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Pray for Satan when you are done praying for everyone else. There are over 7 billion people on earth- so if you spend just one second praying for each person, you can get around to praying for Satan in less than 250 years.