Water baptism is necessary to be in the first resurrection
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Water baptism is for a literal resurrection.
Romans 6:4,5
4We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may walk in newness of life.
5For if we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection.
"Like this in His death" = Water baptism
"United with Him in His resurrection" = Literal resurrection
Romans 6:4,5
4We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may walk in newness of life.
5For if we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection.
"Like this in His death" = Water baptism
"United with Him in His resurrection" = Literal resurrection
"Like this" means 'resemblance' = symbolic not literal
FYI - we can all read and SEE what the Apostle Paul is saying.
We can all read and SEE what you are attempting to do by adding to the Word of God = this is not from God to do this.
"Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Romans 6:3-4
I never witnessed, in the Gospel or in my life, anyone being water baptized and then they literally died so that they can be resurrected.
Have you?
To be water baptized is to follow in His footsteps, OUTWARDLY, which any non saved person can do thru religion.
Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’
The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
John ch3
Once again the SPIRIT score = 100%
the flesh/religion score = 0
FYI - we can all read and SEE what the Apostle Paul is saying.
We can all read and SEE what you are attempting to do by adding to the Word of God = this is not from God to do this.
"Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Romans 6:3-4
I never witnessed, in the Gospel or in my life, anyone being water baptized and then they literally died so that they can be resurrected.
Have you?
To be water baptized is to follow in His footsteps, OUTWARDLY, which any non saved person can do thru religion.
Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’
The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
John ch3
Once again the SPIRIT score = 100%
the flesh/religion score = 0
Water baptism isn’t about flesh and religion as John 1 & 3 say.
John 1:12,13
12But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God.
John 3:5-7
5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’
Do you see the being born of water is not a flesh birth because John 1:12,13 says that a flesh birth is useless to be born again? John 3 is about being born again through water baptism and Spirit.
-Water for the salvation of the glorified resurrected body.
-Spirit for the salvation of the soul.
John 1:12,13
12But to all who did receive Him, to those who believed in His name, He gave the right to become children of God— 13children born not of blood, nor of the desire or will of man, but born of God.
John 3:5-7
5Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. 7Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’
Do you see the being born of water is not a flesh birth because John 1:12,13 says that a flesh birth is useless to be born again? John 3 is about being born again through water baptism and Spirit.
-Water for the salvation of the glorified resurrected body.
-Spirit for the salvation of the soul.
i SEE that no one is Born-Again by water baptism = "nor of the desire or will of man"
i SEE that "flesh is flesh" = water baptism is outward and touches the flesh = it can never wash away sins from within a mans heart/soul
i SEE that "Sprirt is Spirit" = applies to the inward man where True Salvation takes Place by the unseen Sacraments of Grace & Faith
Why waste your time and effort to prove something that is never taught as the Vehicle of Salvation?
If w/b was REAL/Necessary to the FATHER, HE would of shown it in the lives of Abraham Isaac & Jacob.
i SEE why water baptism was made available to the New Born/Born-Again
i SEE that "flesh is flesh" = water baptism is outward and touches the flesh = it can never wash away sins from within a mans heart/soul
i SEE that "Sprirt is Spirit" = applies to the inward man where True Salvation takes Place by the unseen Sacraments of Grace & Faith
Why waste your time and effort to prove something that is never taught as the Vehicle of Salvation?
If w/b was REAL/Necessary to the FATHER, HE would of shown it in the lives of Abraham Isaac & Jacob.
i SEE why water baptism was made available to the New Born/Born-Again
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Our physical bodies contain a soul a spirit so your line of thinking that water baptism is unspiritual, fleshly, because it touches the physical body doesn’t really hold water. (No pun intended).
1 Thessalonians 5:23
23And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
As you can see, the soul and spirit touch the body too.
So back to John 1 & 3. Water baptism is spiritual and live birth from humans is fleshly and unspiritual. Do you see that now?
1 Thessalonians 5:23
23And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
As you can see, the soul and spirit touch the body too.
So back to John 1 & 3. Water baptism is spiritual and live birth from humans is fleshly and unspiritual. Do you see that now?
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You said: "live birth from humans is fleshly" = CORRECT = "born by water" is the flesh just as the LORD said to Nicodemus.
Born-Again can only be accomplished by the SPIRIT = no fleshly water applied/necessary = ONLY WIND/SPIRIT
Jesus said: (v6) "Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit." = SEE = NO water mixed with the SPIRIT
Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’
The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
SEE = No water mixed with the SPIRIT = only the WIND is used by the LORD to denote the Second Birth.
NO water
Born-Again can only be accomplished by the SPIRIT = no fleshly water applied/necessary = ONLY WIND/SPIRIT
Jesus said: (v6) "Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit." = SEE = NO water mixed with the SPIRIT
Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’
The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
SEE = No water mixed with the SPIRIT = only the WIND is used by the LORD to denote the Second Birth.
NO water
No that’s false. I’m afraid you’re very confused at this point as you seem to have it completely backwards. You were probably taught this by the modern church.
“Born of water and spirit” is spiritual and it’s water baptism and God’s Holy Spirit.
Born of flesh is not spiritual.
This is what Jesus was trying to tell Nicodemus. You’re making the same error Nicodemus did but Nicodemus learned his error quickly. If you won’t hear Jesus you won’t hear me.
“Born of water and spirit” is spiritual and it’s water baptism and God’s Holy Spirit.
Born of flesh is not spiritual.
This is what Jesus was trying to tell Nicodemus. You’re making the same error Nicodemus did but Nicodemus learned his error quickly. If you won’t hear Jesus you won’t hear me.
Now I can see where your confusion arises from.
You aren't aware of the differences between the law of God and what is often referred to as the law of Moses. Even though the law of Moses was given by God to Moses.
“And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform even ten commandments, and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statues and judgments, that ye might do them in the land wither ye go over to posses it” Deuteronomy 4:13-14
The law of Moses was temporary and only in effect until the arrival of Jesus.
Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added "till the seed should come," and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19).
https://www.preparingforeternity.com/mosevs10.htm
The ceremonial law included sabbaths . However, those sabbaths were a reference to annual feasts and holidays. Read Leviticus 23.
After Jesus sacrifice on the cross those sabbaths, and the ceremonial laws of Moses, were nailed to the cross. Read Colossians 2.
The Sabbath God made for us is not done away with. Jesus is our Sabbath rest. This doesn't mean we are wrong to honor and recognize the day God made for we who are in Christ to find a day of rest from the world on a day God blessed for us to enjoy.
You aren't aware of the differences between the law of God and what is often referred to as the law of Moses. Even though the law of Moses was given by God to Moses.
“And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform even ten commandments, and he wrote them upon two tables of stone. And the Lord commanded me at that time to teach you statues and judgments, that ye might do them in the land wither ye go over to posses it” Deuteronomy 4:13-14
The law of Moses was temporary and only in effect until the arrival of Jesus.
Moses' law was the temporary, ceremonial law of the Old Testament. It regulated the priesthood, sacrifices, rituals, meat and drink offerings, etc., all of which foreshadowed the cross. This law was added "till the seed should come," and that seed was Christ (Galatians 3:16, 19).
https://www.preparingforeternity.com/mosevs10.htm
The ceremonial law included sabbaths . However, those sabbaths were a reference to annual feasts and holidays. Read Leviticus 23.
After Jesus sacrifice on the cross those sabbaths, and the ceremonial laws of Moses, were nailed to the cross. Read Colossians 2.
The Sabbath God made for us is not done away with. Jesus is our Sabbath rest. This doesn't mean we are wrong to honor and recognize the day God made for we who are in Christ to find a day of rest from the world on a day God blessed for us to enjoy.
i SEE where you do not understand the Finished Work of GOD wherby HE Rested
the Sabbath REST of GOD is CHRIST = not a day of the week
You certainly can continue in gathering for fellowship with the Body of Christ any day of the week = no specific day has been assigned by the LORD under the New Covenant.
You and others are attempting to combine the law of Moses/saturday sabbath, with the law of God which is CHRIST.
It will never please God that way - but it will make religious people feel very pious about themselves.
A.) Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. = no saturday sabbath required
B.) In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. = no saturday sabbath required
C.) So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility = no saturday sabbath required
The LORD is pleased whenever and wherever we gather in His Name to worship and glorify God -
saturday has no bearing on Holiness under the New Covenant
the Sabbath REST of GOD is CHRIST = not a day of the week
You certainly can continue in gathering for fellowship with the Body of Christ any day of the week = no specific day has been assigned by the LORD under the New Covenant.
You and others are attempting to combine the law of Moses/saturday sabbath, with the law of God which is CHRIST.
It will never please God that way - but it will make religious people feel very pious about themselves.
A.) Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;
and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. = no saturday sabbath required
B.) In Him you were also circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. = no saturday sabbath required
C.) So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility = no saturday sabbath required
The LORD is pleased whenever and wherever we gather in His Name to worship and glorify God -
saturday has no bearing on Holiness under the New Covenant
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You are wrong.
Colossians 2:16, "Therefore, no one is to act as your judge in regard to food and drink, or in respect to a festival or a new moon, or a Sabbath day."
When you referenced that passage as one averse to God's Sabbath you showed your cards.
God has exposed it.
You are goading Christians here by assuming the position of one averse to scripture. The Contrarian. In every thread , every topic.
You are wrong David.
The end.
Colossians 2:16, "Therefore, no one is to act as your judge in regard to food and drink, or in respect to a festival or a new moon, or a Sabbath day."
When you referenced that passage as one averse to God's Sabbath you showed your cards.
God has exposed it.
You are goading Christians here by assuming the position of one averse to scripture. The Contrarian. In every thread , every topic.
You are wrong David.
The end.
Show one verse where the LORD Jesus Christ and/or the Apostles say "you must keep the saturday sabbath".
Keep in mind that once Christ Finished the Work of GOD, GOD RESTED and so HE now grants Eternal REST to all who come to CHRIST without the law and without the saturday requirement = old law, done away with at the Cross.
NEW LIFE Resurrected in Christ by the SPIRIT and not the letter of the law which kills and brings forth death.
Show one verse where the LORD Jesus Christ and/or the Apostles say "you must keep the saturday sabbath".
Keep in mind that once Christ Finished the Work of GOD, GOD RESTED and so HE now grants Eternal REST to all who come to CHRIST without the law and without the saturday requirement = old law, done away with at the Cross.
NEW LIFE Resurrected in Christ by the SPIRIT and not the letter of the law which kills and brings forth death.
Show one verse where the LORD Jesus Christ and/or the Apostles say "you must keep the saturday sabbath".
Is there anything you accept in scripture .........that is not been corrupted......... from God's meaning and intent?
Baptism is Required
Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...
John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.
KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.
Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.
Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”
John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth
.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.
Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.
Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.
.......If you were baptized for some reason other than for forgiveness of sins in order to be saved then you do not have salvation and you are still lost. Who are you going to follow: God or man? As our Lord warns us in Matthew 15:14, "And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a ditch." Don't allow someone, who has added to and taken away from God's word, to lead you. Open your eyes and read God's word for yourself. Those who have added to and taken away from God's word will be lost. If you continue to follow them, then you too will be lost.
Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.
Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).
Baptism is Required
Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...
John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
KJV Marrk 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.
KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.
Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.
Acts 19:4 And Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus.”
John 3; 22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth
.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized.His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.
Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.
Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.
.......If you were baptized for some reason other than for forgiveness of sins in order to be saved then you do not have salvation and you are still lost. Who are you going to follow: God or man? As our Lord warns us in Matthew 15:14, "And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a ditch." Don't allow someone, who has added to and taken away from God's word, to lead you. Open your eyes and read God's word for yourself. Those who have added to and taken away from God's word will be lost. If you continue to follow them, then you too will be lost.
Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.
Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Also two other books of the Bible).
My parents told me I was baptized (sprinkled) in the Presbyterian Church as an infant. I don't remember it. I became a Christian as a kid, but did not get very serious about it until my mid 20s. I'm 69 now. The only water baptisim I've had is one I do not remember, and I have no plans to get baptized again.
The ONE baptism (Eph 4:5) that matters is baptism in the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 12:13). That's the baptism that makes a person a Christian, born again of the Holy Spirit, which is the guarantee of salvation (Eph 1:13-14).
The ONE baptism (Eph 4:5) that matters is baptism in the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 12:13). That's the baptism that makes a person a Christian, born again of the Holy Spirit, which is the guarantee of salvation (Eph 1:13-14).
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isolated verses like 1 Peter 3:21 is your mainstay error
So let's SEE what the Apostle Peter said about water baptism:
#1) For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.
not water baptism
2#) He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit, = not water baptism
in whom He also went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.
#3.) In the ark a few people, only eight souls, were saved through water. And this water symbolizes the baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God
—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to Him.
Apostle Peter says the ARK saved Noah and that water baptism is SYMBOLIC of what actually saves us = "pledge of a clear conscience toward God"
AND what is the pledge??? = that Christ died for our sins and on the 3rd day HE Rose from the dead.
Through HIS Suffering & Resurrection and being Seated at the Right Hand of God we have forgiveness of sins.
not water baptism
So let's SEE what the Apostle Peter said about water baptism:
#1) For Christ also suffered for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.
not water baptism
2#) He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit, = not water baptism
in whom He also went and preached to the spirits in prison who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built.
#3.) In the ark a few people, only eight souls, were saved through water. And this water symbolizes the baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God
—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to Him.
Apostle Peter says the ARK saved Noah and that water baptism is SYMBOLIC of what actually saves us = "pledge of a clear conscience toward God"
AND what is the pledge??? = that Christ died for our sins and on the 3rd day HE Rose from the dead.
Through HIS Suffering & Resurrection and being Seated at the Right Hand of God we have forgiveness of sins.
not water baptism
Per 1 Peter 3:21, water baptism saves by the resurrection of Christ. Like Romans 6:4,5 says, it’s water baptism that is necessary to be in the first resurrection, but not required for the salvation of the soul. That’s why there are verses that say both water and/or faith saves.
Most people tend to either completely reject water baptism like you do, clearly an anti-Biblical error, or they believe water baptism is necessary to receive salvation of the soul which is another error, but few seem to realize that water baptism is exclusively for being resurrected. This information seems to have been lost to time.
Most people tend to either completely reject water baptism like you do, clearly an anti-Biblical error, or they believe water baptism is necessary to receive salvation of the soul which is another error, but few seem to realize that water baptism is exclusively for being resurrected. This information seems to have been lost to time.