The protestant reformation.

[crossnote]

Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone)
Sola Gratia (Grace Alone)
Sola Fide (Faith Alone)
Solus Christus (Christ Alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (Glory to God alone)

We are saved by grace alone through faith alone on account of Christ alone solely for God's glory alone.
Believers would do well to be rooted in the 5 Solas of the Reformation.

 

[GracethroughfaithinChrist]

Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone)
Sola Gratia (Grace Alone)
Sola Fide (Faith Alone)
Solus Christus (Christ Alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (Glory to God alone)

We are saved by grace alone through faith alone on account of Christ alone solely for God's glory alone.
Believers would do well to be rooted in the 5 Solas of the Reformation.

Well said!

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone)
Sola Gratia (Grace Alone)
Sola Fide (Faith Alone)
Solus Christus (Christ Alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (Glory to God alone)

We are saved by grace alone through faith alone on account of Christ alone solely for God's glory alone.
Believers would do well to be rooted in the 5 Solas of the Reformation.

Well said. The most important one is the first, Sola Scriptura. Although I believe some study on Jewish culture and customs might be necessary and helpful, the bible interprets itself. Any preacher that preaches a different gospel that deviates from the Scripture is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

You need to be careful who you are calling idolators and whores. I draw a distinction between Catholicism and Catholics because I know that some Catholics are born again. That makes them members of the body of Christ. Anyone, of any or no denomination, is a member of the Church if they are born again. Maybe even you!

Lord Jesus said that He makes no distinction between believers and Himself. When you call a born again Christian a whore or an idolator, you are saying the same of the Lord Jesus. God does not take kindly to that.

I honestly don't care about labels or titles, a tree is known for its fruits. There're quite a few diving lines that separate the wheat from the tares - where does the church stand on abortion? On homosexual UNION or coupling? On drugs - including weeds and overmedication? On government shutdown that specifically targets churches? As far as I know, most churches are silent on these issues, pretending they were "settled" long ago, because touching these taboo subjects is surely gonna ruffle some feathers; when facing government shutdown and clot shot mandate and stuffs, they complied with no objection. Those are the Laodiceans. The worst churches are the woke ones that are active pushing these abominations in the name of the lord. Fortunately, there're a few remnants that have the gut to speak truth to power, and I feel so blessed with the privelege and opportunity to receive their message. If you're in favor of the Catholics, you tell me where they fit in.

 

[Nehemiah6]

What is your understanding of the protestant reformation?

The Protestant Reformation was a movement to essentially get back to the Bible and the true Gospel, while discarding all the false teachings and practices of the church of Rome. Unfortunately these goals were sabotaged, and only some Gospel truths came forth. Calvinism was not the true Gospel at all.
However, the Reformation did have a tremendous impact throughout Europe, and large numbers became Protestants and also genuine Christians. So Europe was transformed by the Reformation, even though the Reformers persecuted genuine Christians who did not agree with them.

Do you see the leading of God?

Very definitely. But unfortunately, man-made doctrines and ideas persisted.

Has this history been forgotten? Is it being forgotten on purpose?

Because the Protestant mainline denominations adopted theological liberalism beginning in the 19th century, they forsook their Reformation principles. Also, many of these denominations began cooperating with the Catholic church, and tried to turn back the clock. So the Reformation has essentially been forgotten.

 

[JaumeJ]

What is your understanding of the protestant reformation?
Do you see the leading of God?
Has this history been forgotten? Is it being forgotten on purpose?

With the advent of the RCC began the disregarding of Abraham as our Father.
The politely written, Reformation of the Protestant movement, established this disregard as firmly entrenched.

 

[TMS]

Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone)
Sola Gratia (Grace Alone)
Sola Fide (Faith Alone)
Solus Christus (Christ Alone)
Soli Deo Gloria (Glory to God alone)

We are saved by grace alone through faith alone on account of Christ alone solely for God's glory alone.
Believers would do well to be rooted in the 5 Solas of the Reformation.

Yes well said,
God loves all RC's and protestants alike. But Sola Scripture and Faith alone in Gods grace through Jesus Christ alone is what was needed in that time and in our time today. Thank God that man like Luther make a stand for the truth.
Today i see many church denominations going back to the RCC and giving up pillars that they fought hard to set as church truth because they want to be united again with the powers that be.

The RCC said they will not change their beliefs so the protestant churches need to change theirs to unite.

My fear is that the Christian world will move to unite the church and think that they are doing Gods will, but the true church will not unite in false teachings and error.

We are told that Gods people will be persecuted because they hold true to His word. Joh_15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

We are told that Gods people will be persecuted because they hold true to His word.

Haven't we already got a taste of that if we dare to speak against the clot shot, transgender or even just the food shortage? Anything against the official narrative?

 

[SomeDisciple]

I think the RCC was never anything more than a pseudo-ecclesiastical body created by men. That body was then endowed with political power and masqueraded as an authority on the Word of God. Positions within the RCC and other corporate "churches" at times might have been occupied by legitimate Christians, but, the RCC as a whole was always a religious decoy. The popular historical narrative that follows the development of the Church through Catholicism and then the protestants that broke away from it; that's also a decoy.
People did well during the "enlightenment" to challenge the "Church" establishment; but perhaps some of the things they turned to were not much better than what they left behind.

 

[Gideon300]

"They" are the people with that doctrine. No, sorry to break it to you, you have not been born again. Nicodemus didn't understand either that Jesus was talking about the resurrection.

Concerning the resurrection, you are correct. However, I have already been crucified with Christ, I was buried with Him and raised from the dead with Him. That is the resurrection that matters to me right now. Or do you not believe God's word?

I am risen with Christ to new life. That's what it means to be born again.

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

Concerning the resurrection, you are correct. However, I have already been crucified with Christ, I was buried with Him and raised from the dead with Him. That is the resurrection that matters to me right now. Or do you not believe God's word?

I am risen with Christ to new life. That's what it means to be born again.

You have not been resurrected yet. When we are resurrected is at the end of the world. We will get a new body, this is what it means to be born again.

 

[Gideon300]

I honestly don't care about labels or titles, a tree is known for its fruits. There're quite a few diving lines that separate the wheat from the tares - where does the church stand on abortion? On homosexual UNION or coupling? On drugs - including weeds and overmedication? On government shutdown that specifically targets churches? As far as I know, most churches are silent on these issues, pretending they were "settled" long ago, because touching these taboo subjects is surely gonna ruffle some feathers; when facing government shutdown and clot shot mandate and stuffs, they complied with no objection. Those are the Laodiceans. The worst churches are the woke ones that are active pushing these abominations in the name of the lord. Fortunately, there're a few remnants that have the gut to speak truth to power, and I feel so blessed with the privelege and opportunity to receive their message. If you're in favor of the Catholics, you tell me where they fit in.

I'm in favour of no "church" organisation be it Pentecostal, Evangelical, Catholic, Orthodox or any other label that people identify as. I've met full on Pentecostals that were as hard as nails, and they were Pastors. I've met Catholics that were full of love for Jesus and showed the fruit of the Spirit in abundance. I've met Baptists who were not at all sure they were saved, including a Pastor. I have had little to do with Orthodox. What I do know about them does not inspire me to get to know more.

The real Church is those who are born again. That's the church that Jesus heads up and the church that God recognises. Christians may differ politically; they may differ in attitudes to all kinds of issues. Most of those issues are irrelevant. For example, drinking alcohol may be acceptable for some and not for others. Smoking is a non issue also. The evidence of being a real Christian is that we love the brethren. There are plenty of doctrinally sound people who fail that test.

 

[ResidentAlien]

The true body of Christ has always been and will always be until He returns.

 

[Gideon300]

You have not been resurrected yet. When we are resurrected is at the end of the world. We will get a new body, this is what it means to be born again.

Rubbish. Yes, we get a new body. However, I was born again 50 years ago. How can you be a new creation without being born again? How can Lord Jesus live in an old, dead spirit? I was born dead in trespass and sins. God made me alive. That's what it means to be born again. I don't know where you get your theology, but it's sure not God's word.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I draw a distinction between Catholicism and Catholics because I know that some Catholics are born again.

You can't truly be born again and remain a Catholic for very long.

 

[A-Sword-Cometh]

Rubbish. Yes, we get a new body. However, I was born again 50 years ago. How can you be a new creation without being born again? How can Lord Jesus live in an old, dead spirit? I was born dead in trespass and sins. God made me alive. That's what it means to be born again. I don't know where you get your theology, but it's sure not God's word.

So you say indeed we get a new body, and then you immediately ask me how a new creation cannot be born again? That's kind of the point of the resurrection, your old body dies, you are born again into a new body, you are literally a new creation. What you are describing about your personal story is your conversion.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

I'm in favour of no "church" organisation be it Pentecostal, Evangelical, Catholic, Orthodox or any other label that people identify as. I've met full on Pentecostals that were as hard as nails, and they were Pastors. I've met Catholics that were full of love for Jesus and showed the fruit of the Spirit in abundance. I've met Baptists who were not at all sure they were saved, including a Pastor. I have had little to do with Orthodox. What I do know about them does not inspire me to get to know more.

The real Church is those who are born again. That's the church that Jesus heads up and the church that God recognises. Christians may differ politically; they may differ in attitudes to all kinds of issues. Most of those issues are irrelevant. For example, drinking alcohol may be acceptable for some and not for others. Smoking is a non issue also. The evidence of being a real Christian is that we love the brethren. There are plenty of doctrinally sound people who fail that test.

Those issues I listed are absolutely relevant, especially abortion. You think those are political issues because they are politicized. Satan is using his minions to challenge

 

[Evmur]

What is your understanding of the protestant reformation?
Do you see the leading of God?
Has this history been forgotten? Is it being forgotten on purpose?

The reformation was seismic recovering the vital fundamental truths of personal salvation. Clearing away CENTURIES of rubble that had been heaped on the foundation by the RCC.

But it was just a beginning, there was [and is] so much more.

There was no fundamental change to church structures. They just changed the names but they were still basically bishop and priest, a professional clergy and the laity which the bible knows nothing about. So the new wine was poured into old wineskins.

That is the exact picture of the church as we see it today.

God is doing a marvellous thing in China.

 

[Carry_Your_Name]

I'm in favour of no "church" organisation be it Pentecostal, Evangelical, Catholic, Orthodox or any other label that people identify as. I've met full on Pentecostals that were as hard as nails, and they were Pastors. I've met Catholics that were full of love for Jesus and showed the fruit of the Spirit in abundance. I've met Baptists who were not at all sure they were saved, including a Pastor. I have had little to do with Orthodox. What I do know about them does not inspire me to get to know more.

The real Church is those who are born again. That's the church that Jesus heads up and the church that God recognises. Christians may differ politically; they may differ in attitudes to all kinds of issues. Most of those issues are irrelevant. For example, drinking alcohol may be acceptable for some and not for others. Smoking is a non issue also. The evidence of being a real Christian is that we love the brethren. There are plenty of doctrinally sound people who fail that test.

Those issues I listed are absolutely relevant, especially abortion. You think those are political issues because they are politicized. Satan is using his minions to challenge God's authority in a mocking, contemptuous way. Abortion is modern day child sacrifice, anyone who supports it or turns a blind eye on it yet has the audacity to self identify as a Christian is never born again to begin with.

 

[Mission21]

But it was just a beginning, there was [and is] so much more.

Good point..
- I agree.
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Every generation needs..the fresh 'reformation/move of God.'
- It starts with those (a few) ..who are willing to go thorough..'criticism & opposition.'
- That has been the pattern..in Christian History.