Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Ps 119:
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81 My soul faints with longing for your salvation,

but I have put my hope in your word.
82 My eyes fail, looking for your promise;
I say, “When will you comfort me?”
83 Though I am like a wineskin in the smoke,
I do not forget your decrees.
84 How long must your servant wait?
When will you punish my persecutors?
85 The arrogant dig pits to trap me,
contrary to your law.
86 All your commands are trustworthy;
help me, for I am being persecuted without cause.
87 They almost wiped me from the earth,
but I have not forsaken your precepts.
88 In your unfailing love preserve my life,
that I may obey the statutes of your mouth.


This is how the saints feel right before the rapture.
 

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Do you want to stand firm?

Psalm 119:
89 Your word, Lord, is eternal;

it stands firm in the heavens.

Be filled with the word of the Lord.
 

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A picture of the rapture and the Antichrist

1Kings 1:1 When King David was very old, he could not keep warm even when they put covers over him. 2 So his attendants said to him, “Let us look for a young virgin to serve the king and take care of him. She can lie beside him so that our lord the king may keep warm.”

3 Then they searched throughout Israel for a beautiful young woman and found Abishag, a Shunammite, and brought her to the king. 4 The woman was very beautiful; she took care of the king and waited on him, but the king had no sexual relations with her.

5 Now Adonijah, whose mother was Haggith, put himself forward and said, “I will be king.” So he got chariots and horses ready, with fifty men to run ahead of him. 6 (His father had never rebuked him by asking, “Why do you behave as you do?” He was also very handsome and was born next after Absalom.)

Adonijah means "Lord God", He is making himself to be God. He represents the Antichrist. Before the Antichrist comes forward the beautiful girl must go into the palace of the king, and the word Shunammite means "perfect peace". That is the rapture.

Song of Songs 6:
10 Who is this that appears like the dawn,
fair as the moon, bright as the sun,
majestic as the stars in procession?

He
11 I went down to the grove of nut trees
to look at the new growth in the valley,
to see if the vines had budded
or the pomegranates were in bloom.
12 Before I realized it,
my desire set me among the royal chariots of my people.

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13 Come back, come back, O Shulammite;
come back, come back, that we may gaze on you!

He
Why would you gaze on the Shulammite

as on the dance of Mahanaim?

This is a picture of the rapture, the Shulammite is taken in royal chariots. Mahanaim is where they made Ishbosheth king instead of David (like choosing Biden instead of Trump). When the rapture takes place then the antichrist comes forward.
 

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Micah 7 -- But as for me, I wait for God my savior

Israel’s Misery
7 What misery is mine!
I am like one who gathers summer fruit
at the gleaning of the vineyard;
there is no cluster of grapes to eat,

none of the early figs that I crave.

A very good description of the time of year. What we call the Fall this calls "the gleaning". I have a fig tree, I have eaten all the early figs. There are still a few figs left which have not yet ripened. I have pruned away all branches that did not bear fruit hoping to get more sap to that fruit.

2 The faithful have been swept from the land;
not one upright person remains.


This verse refers to the rapture. It corresponds to Jeremiah which says that "summer is past and I am not saved". You have to understand that the Bible only refers to two seasons, summer and winter. There is no Fall or Spring. So summer ends when the harvest ends which is approximately October 31st (they have a different calendar from the Gregorian calendar).

Everyone lies in wait to shed blood;
they hunt each other with nets.
3 Both hands are skilled in doing evil;
the ruler demands gifts,
the judge accepts bribes,
the powerful dictate what they desire—
they all conspire together.


This is what we are seeing today. The deep state organizes false flag events, they lie in wait to shed blood like they did on January 6th, they hunt each other to catch them in nets like those who have been put into solitary confinement for trespassing. They are skilled in doing evil, they have raised it to an art form, even Hunter Biden doing his money laundering with his "artwork". The rulers are taking bribes, the judges are taking bribes, the vaccine mandate is their dictating to the masses what they desire, and the whole pandemic shows how they all conspire together. A great illustration of this is two trials going on right now. Durham is prosecuting Sussman. The evidence that he lied to investigators which is what the case is all about is overwhelming beyond any reasonable doubt. However, he has 3 Clinton donors in his jury pool, and his judge has put all kinds of restrictions on his prosecution. Meanwhile, in the same courthouse General Flynn is also being tried for a violation of the exact same law. In his trial the prosecution is given all kinds of advantages and the judge has even referred to Flynn as a traitor, either in those words or implied in some of the restrictions on the defense. The contrast between the two trials is amazing.

4 The best of them is like a brier,
the most upright worse than a thorn hedge.
The day God visits you has come,
the day your watchmen sound the alarm.
Now is the time of your confusion.


The most upright is like a thorn hedge. This is what the judge in the Sussman trial is like, every little prickly thorn sticking into Durham, making it so difficult for him to proceed. One of the jurors has a daughter that plays on the same team as Sussman's daughter. This is there confusion, not the saints. The faithful have all been caught up, swept from the land. The people left behind are surrounded now like being stuck in the middle of a thorn hedge and they are completely confused. They are being attacked on every side, their lies are exposed to the country, it is very clear that at least 75% of the people dislike Biden and his actions, but that number is very likely less than the actual number.

5 Do not trust a neighbor;
put no confidence in a friend.
Even with the woman who lies in your embrace
guard the words of your lips.
6 For a son dishonors his father,
a daughter rises up against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
a man’s enemies are the members of his own household.


Once again, this shows us the "manner of time" of the Lord's coming. It will be a "cancel culture" where you have to watch the words of your lips otherwise you will be cancelled, fired, and ruined. You can't trust your kids, your wife, your in-laws. Do you want to know what hell is, it is where a man's enemies are the members of his own household. After the rapture, all the righteous will be taken. Recently there was a shooting in Buffalo where a man shot and killed ten people at a grocery store. A woman at the store called 911. The operator asked why she was whispering, told her to stop, and when she wouldn't hung up on her. That is simply a glimpse of what is coming. The gospel tells us we need to confess our sins and repent. The world wants to say that they are all righteous, don't talk about sin, let's just pretend that everyone is good.

7 But as for me, I watch in hope for the Lord,
I wait for God my Savior;
my God will hear me.


This is working for the salvation of those who are left behind. Some Christians were willing to compromise, to go along to get along, to tolerate the woman Jezebel. But once the faithful Antipas and all the other faithful saints who were "against all" are removed the real nature of this wicked world is revealed. This turns them to hope in the Lord, to call on the Lord, their Savior, to trust that Jesus will hear them.
 

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Hell is the world the FreeMasons want to create

Colossians 2:8 Be careful not to allow anyone to captivate you through an empty, deceitful philosophy that is according to human traditions and the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

The Free Masons have a religion of Satan worship based on the deceitful philosophy that they are simply one with the elemental spirits of the world. Stealing, adultery and murder are all OK because that is the law of the jungle. If you study apes, or chimps, or birds, or one of many different species on this planet you will see that the practice of adultery, stealing, and murder is very common.

The problem with this philosophy is that it is not true of eusocial creatures. Yes, out of millions of species on this planet there are only 18 that are eusocial, so they are quite rare, yet they are also the most dominant species on the planet. Ants, termites, bees, and humans all have this in common. Species that are not eusocial do not congregate in groups larger than 100 and usually not in groups larger than 25. For example with chimps you will have a dominant male, perhaps one or two more, a harem of females and the offspring of this alpha male. Think about that, chimps are very smart, they have opposable thumbs and so could create a world not that different from humans and yet they are "dumb animals". Why? Because they are not eusocial. They cannot trust others to raise their kids, they cannot trust others to not steal and commit adultery and so they live in large families cut off from the other chimps. They don't have schools, they don't have diversified jobs that everyone does.

What makes man special is that we are eusocial. We could never have gone to the moon if we lived in a society that could not be larger than 100. Satellites, telecommunications, modern medicine, and all the other fantastic inventions are all possible because we are eusocial. We can have an Albert Einstein or Isaac Newton because we don't have to spend our days foraging for food and fighting off other bands of roving humans.

A society according to Christ can transform this earth into the New Jerusalem. However, if we live according to the elemental spirits of apes the world will descend into anarchy, chaos, and will very quickly become hell. This is what will happen after the rapture. Look at what Micah 7 says.

4 The best of them is like a brier,
the most upright worse than a thorn hedge.
The day God visits you has come,
the day your watchmen sound the alarm.
Now is the time of your confusion.
5 Do not trust a neighbor;
put no confidence in a friend.
Even with the woman who lies in your embrace
guard the words of your lips.
6 For a son dishonors his father,
a daughter rises up against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
a man’s enemies are the members of his own household.
 

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Bible Verses that discuss a pre tribulation rapture (1)

1. New Testament -- I will begin with the New Testament. Yes, there are many types and shadows that will fill in this picture in the Old Testament, but you should never build a doctrine on types and shadows.

Revelation -- The church is mentioned repeatedly in chapters 2-3. Many have interpreted these two chapters as being prophetic of the entire church age.

In chapter 1 we are told The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks are seven churches.

That is very important because in chapter 4:1 After these things I saw, and behold, a door opened in heaven, and the first voice that I heard, a voice as of a trumpet speaking with me, one saying, Come up hither, and I will show thee the things which must [a]come to pass hereafter. 2 Straightway I was in the Spirit: and behold, there was a throne set in heaven, and one sitting upon the throne; 3 and he that sat was to look upon like a jasper stone and a sardius: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, like an emerald to look upon. 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty thrones: and upon the thrones I saw four and twenty elders sitting, arrayed in white garments; and on their heads crowns of gold. 5 And out of the throne proceed lightnings and voices and thunders. And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God;

We see John called up to heaven by a voice as a trumpet. He sees a crowning ceremony for Jesus Christ. He also sees 24 elders sitting, 12 of these elders are the 12 apostles, so this means the dead in Christ have already been raised. He also sees the seven candlesticks in heaven, and we have already been told that is the church. This precedes the seven seals being opened. Those seven seals depict the tribulation (along with the seven trumpets and seven bowls). So John being called up to heaven by the trumpet call precedes the tribulation.

This matches what the Lord told the churches:

Revelation 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and didst hear; and keep it, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

This verse makes it clear that the Lord makes a distinction between those who are watching for His return based on the same way they received His word and previous revelation, the way they heard that word and the way they kept that word with those who refuse to watch.

This expression that the Lord will come as a thief is used repeatedly throughout the New Testament and here it is clear that this word is quite specific for those "who will not watch".

Revelation 3:10 10 Because thou didst keep the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of trial, that hour which is to come upon the whole world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.


The reward for those that do keep the word of His patience is to be kept out of the hour of trial. When the Lord comes He will rapture the believers. This is the story of the bridegroom coming and the ten virgins, five were wise and fiver were foolish. The wise ones have their vessels filled with oil (they kept the word) the foolish ones didn't. The wise ones entered into the marriage feast, the foolish ones were locked out and had to go to those who sell and buy the oil. That is what happens during the tribulation, you pay the price for the oil. You should have done it prior to the tribulation, but you didn't.

In the book of Revelation the church is mentioned 19 times. 18 times in chapters 1-3, and then once in chapter 22.

The tribulation in the book of Revelation begins in chapter 5 after the crowning ceremony of the Lamb. This is when the tribulation begins and there is no mention of the church during this time.

Yes there are believers who are mentioned, they are beheaded because they refuse to take the mark of the beast. But that is not the church, those are the five foolish virgins who must pay the price for the oil during the tribulation. There are many Christians who think we should not be absolute for the Bible, that the Bible is out of date, that we should compromise with the world and not be so obstinate. During the tribulation they will realize they were "foolish" and they cannot compromise with Satan and still be saved.
 

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Bible verses that discuss a pre tribulation rapture (2)

Luke 17:25 But first must he suffer many things and be rejected of this generation. 26 And as it came to pass in the days of Noah, even so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 27 They ate, they drank, they married, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 28 Likewise even as it came to pass in the days of Lot; they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 but in the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all: 30 after the same manner shall it be in the day that the Son of man is revealed.

Noah entered the ark 7 days before the flood began. Noah is a type of Jesus Christ, the name spelled backwards is "grace". He went into the ark with "7" depicting the church which is the seven golden lampstands. 7 days before depicts the 7 years of the tribulation. Yes, this is a OT type and shadow but we are told in the black and white word of the NT that it should be applied to the tribulation when the Son of Man is revealed.

Lot also is taken out before the fire falls. This one is not the same, the Bible describes him being barely saved. Noah is listed in Hebrews 11, faith's hall of fame, Lot is not. Noah was a preacher of righteousness, Lot was a righteous man. Noah was mocked and ridiculed by those in the place he lived, Lot was sitting in the gate, an important man, who chose to make his home in Sodom. Noah is in the boat 7 days before it rains, Lot escapes as fire falls.

Either way both are rescued prior to God's indignation, but in my opinion Noah represents the wise virgins and Lot represents those saved out of the tribulation.
 

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Hebrews 12:18 For ye are not come unto a mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, and unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19 and the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard entreated that no word more should be spoken unto them; 20 for they could not endure that which was enjoined, If even a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned; 21 and so fearful was the appearance, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:

22 but ye are come unto mount Zion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable hosts of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 and to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better than that of Abel.

25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not when they refused him that warned them on earth, much more shall not we escape who turn away from him that warneth from heaven: 26 whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more will I make to tremble not the earth only, but also the heaven. 27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that have been made, that those things which are not shaken may remain. 28 Wherefore, receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us have grace, whereby we may offer service well-pleasing to God with reverence and awe: 29 for our God is a consuming fire.

This is the "conclusion" of Hebrews. The book is about "river crossers" (Hebrews) and it shows us the transition from the Old Covenant to the New. We are given many compare and contrast between the two covenants. This portion is very clearly comparing Mount Sinai where Israel received their covenant with Mount Zion where we received our covenant. And this portion ends with what we would call "the tribulation" or even "the great tribulation". Everything will be removed, God is a consuming fire. It references the word in Haggai that "yet once more God will shake the earth" referring back to what God did in Egypt and even at this mountain. Now compare this with what Paul says in 1 Thessalonians.

1Thessalonians 1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, who delivereth us from the wrath to come.


This is part of our covenant, this is the promise we have, this is our blessed Hope. We believe this prophecy that God will once more shake the earth to remove all those things that are not part of His unshakeable kingdom. However, we also believe that Jesus delivereth us from this wrath which is to come.

Romans 5:9 Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.

What does it mean to be "saved"? It means we are born again, that we have Jesus life in us, that for us to live is Christ, and it also means that we shall be saved by the Lord from the wrath of God.

1Thessalonians 5:9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,


Once again, there is a destiny, some are destined to the wrath of God and that is discussed in Revelation, it is part of our covenant with God, we have been warned of this repeatedly, but that is not our destiny if we have obtained salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter your chambers, and shut your doors behind you; hide yourselves for a little while until the fury has passed by.

Here is another prophecy indicating that God's people will be saved from the wrath of God and will be hidden in our chambers until the fury has passed, the great shaking that Hebrews talks about.

Acts 1:9-11 And when he had said these things, as they were looking on, he was lifted up, and a cloud took him out of their sight. And while they were gazing into heaven as he went, behold, two men stood by them in white robes, and said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.”

Now consider the story of Shavuot referenced in Hebrews 12. Moses ascended up the mountain with a voice like a trumpet, referred to as the Trumpet of God. When Jesus ascended in Acts the disciples were told that He would return the same way. Jesus is going to descend from the mountain of God, just like Moses, with the Trumpet of God.

1Thessalonians 4:13-18 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, about those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. ...
 

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John 11:38 Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the tomb. Now it was a cave, and a stone lay against it. 39 Jesus saith, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time the body decayeth; for he hath been dead four days. 40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou believedst, thou shouldest see the glory of God? 41 So they took away the stone. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou heardest me. 42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the multitude that standeth around I said it, that they may believe that thou didst send me. 43 And when he had thus spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. 44 He that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with grave-clothes; and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.

Lazarus is raised from the dead prior to Jesus being crucified in Jerusalem. This "rapture" event caused a great revival where the Jewish leaders said the whole world was going after Him and we see as He enters Jerusalem a few days later on a donkey as the crowds cheer Him saying "Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest."

So then you can see a "pre tribulation" rapture in the gospel of John that takes place to set the stage for Jesus entering triumphantly into Jerusalem during the tribulation.

Raising Lazarus from the dead had a tremendous impact on Jesus earthly ministry, likewise the rapture before the tribulation will have a tremendous impact on Jesus heavenly ministry.
 

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Matthew 27:51 And behold, the veil of the temple was rent in two from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake; and the rocks were rent; 52 and the tombs were opened; and many bodies of the saints that had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming forth out of the tombs after his resurrection they entered into the holy city and appeared unto many.

After the Passover you have the Feast of Firstfruits where a sheaf of barley is waved as an offering to God. This feast is a shadow of things to come and was fulfilled at the Lord's death and resurrection. There are many feasts for various harvests. At Shavuot you wave two leavened loaves before God. There are three feasts where all the males are required to appear before God with an offering in their hands. This is one of them, Shavuot and Tabernacles are the other two. Between Shavuot and Tabernacles you have the feasts of fruit like wine and olives and figs. All of these feasts depict various "raptures". The saints beheaded during the tribulation are likened to wine and a grape harvest. The church being raptured is likened to a wheat harvest and Shavuot is a festival celebrating a wheat harvest.

So then, one important point is that just as there are multiple harvests there are also multiple raptures. A simplistic view is: the firstfruits which were Christ with these righteous ones, the church which refers to the pre tribulation rapture, the tribulation saints which will be martyred, and then Israel as a nation will be saved last of all.

This may not prove there is another "pre tribulation" rapture but it does prove there are multiple harvests and it also proves that at least the "firstfruits" were pre tribulation.

One of the key arguments that those who oppose this doctrine make is that since we have had saints in the past go through tribulation it is only right that we have to go through the tribulation. And what about all those saints over the last two thousand years that were not martyred? The Bible says the dead in Christ are raised first. According to this doctrine if you weren't martyred, or tortured then you can't be in Christ? You can't partake of the rapture? This is absurd. There are many different seeds. Some seeds require a forest fire in order to germinate, most do not. Barley grows differently than wheat which is different from grapes or olives or figs. There is no one size fits all or one rule applies to all.
 

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Do not judge before the time


Consider these dreams as warnings ("brace yourself"). Now imagine we have the rapture in June of 2022, around the 33rd anniversary of Tien An Men square, the tribulation begins in October, the election is a transparent theft in November resulting in chaos and civil war.

Consider this picture of this man in front of the tanks in light of the verse about He who restrains being taken out of the way.
 

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Should we prep or not?

There are two sides to this. No amount of prepping can allow you to "survive" the tribulation. On the other hand the Lord told us to "occupy till He comes" and that no one knows the day or the hour.

Imagine if Christians did know the day or the hour? would they behave irresponsibly?

Yet at the same time the Lord told us to watch and if we didn't watch He would come at an hour we don't expect.

So which is it? To me this is like a violin string, it is being pulled from two equal and opposite forces so that it is taut and makes a good sound.

We should be watching at what is happening around us. We see a great depression looming on the horizon. Some can say that this is not evidence that the day of the Lord is here because we had a great depression in the 1930s. To that I would say that Israel returned to the Jews in 1948 in one day. That is a major fulfillment of prophecy. Psalm 48, ie 19th book, 48 chapter, prophesied of this and said to "tell it to the terminal generation". Likewise Jesus told us that when the fig tree buds again this generation shall not pass away until all the things He had just listed take place. A generation is 80 years and in May of 2029 Israel will become 81. Hence prior to that all these things must take place.

Judging by how long a "great depression" would be tells us that this will be the one and only one that precedes the Lord's coming in great glory on the clouds.

Now a great depression is very significant because you need something that will encourage all the people in the world to take the mark of the beast. It is quite obvious from Revelation that one of the goals of this "mark" is to eliminate people being able to barter, hence it is a desperate move of a tyrannical government to maintain control in the midst of a great depression.

So then we should watch, we should pay attention to the meeting this month in which the US wants to hand over sovereignty to the WHO, we should pay attention to this coming great depression, and we should be well aware of the verses in the Bible that tell us where we are at.

Interestingly the book of Joel tells us a worldwide pandemic will be the signal that the Day of the Lord is at hand. Once again, we had a worldwide pandemic with the Spanish flu. However, when you read the description in Joel you realize they did not have that reaction to the pandemic. Perhaps in one or two cities, but it was not a global response like we had with Covid 19.

Of course the idea of putting a chip in every person that could be read by a scanner allowing people to buy and sell was certainly not an option back during the Spanish Flu but is something that is being discussed today.

So we can certainly see the day approaching. We can see the day of one world government approaching the day of the mark of the beast approaching, and even Ezekiel 38 seems much more likely now that just a couple of months ago.

But we need to be balanced. Provide for your family while at the same time be absolute for the Lord. There is no salvation in any other name than in the name of Jesus.
 

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The Lord is going to pull the rug out from under this evil age

The Free Mason's religion is based on the rulers resting upon the masses who they consider blind, rude, vulgar. View the great unwashed masses as "the deplorables". That is the fundamental error in their entire philosophy. If the Lord rescues the "deplorables" with the rapture then He pulls the rug out from under them. Murder, stealing and adultery as a religion for the abusive people works when you have someone to abuse, but what happens when they aren't here and you are thrown into a world with nothing but murderers, thieves and adulterers? Then you have Sodom and Gomorrah.
 

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The Day of the Lord is at hand.

I kept wondering why would they want to kill people. So ask yourself, worldwide, if some people die that would harm our economy, but if others die it would actually help. It would obviously depend on which ones but you can imagine that 1-2 billion people could die with little or no net harm to the world's economy.

So then how do you identify who is who? Suppose they create a universal basic income as they roll out robots, drones, and AI to replace many jobs.

Now anyone that is receiving the universal basic income they could exterminate knowing full well that no harm would come to the economy. Social Security could also be viewed as a list of people to exterminate.

The beauty of this is that each year the list of jobs that are no longer necessary for people would grow. You might think you are very essential, but they roll out a digital currency and now we no longer need accountants or tax professionals because we can do it all on the computer. If the computer knows everything we don't need you to fill out your taxes, it will do it for you.

If cars are made with computer chips and built by robots why couldn't a computer diagnose what is wrong with the car and a robot fix it? You can easily imagine simple service on a car can be done by the robots.

Houses can be manufactured with a 3d printer.

18 wheelers can be driven by self driving vehicles.

every item you want to purchase can be done online and delivered by drone. You don't need cashiers, you don't need stockers, etc.

Lawyers and doctors might think they are irreplaceable, but Watson proved that it can certainly go a long way to replacing some doctors and lawyers. Again, maybe 30% reduction in doctors and nurses. Also, as you reduce the population you reduce the need for things like doctors and lawyers.

We can see robots cleaning the floor at grocery stores, we can see self checkout stands, we can see these big food chains with all the food in special packages that simply need to be heated up eliminating the need for chefs and they have little computers at your table eliminating the need for waiters and waitresses.

Think about it, 63% of the population works. If you can eliminate a third of those jobs then you only have 40% of the population working. Therefore it is not unreasonable to think that they could eliminate half the population in developed nations without negatively impacting the economy, and probably eliminate 65% of the population in developing nations.

You can be sure this is all coming. AI and robotics to replace jobs. A digital currency to track every single person. A universal basic income to create a list of those they can exterminate. The Day of the Lord is at hand.
 

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Because you knew not the time of your visitation

Luke 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.


This is what we are seeing places like La Palma, the stones are crying out. Earthquakes and volcanoes have increased exponentially. It is amazing how many Christians are holding their peace and how many unbelievers are clueless. It is as though the whole world has been drugged with prozac or with the mainstream media singing a lullabye.

41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it, 42 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.


There are whistleblowers from many different areas of the deep state saying that these things are being hid from our eyes. NASA knows about Nibiru. The Plandemic and vaccine were all part of a conspiracy hid from our eyes, the election fraud was a conspiracy hid from our eyes, the collapse of the world's economy was also planned and known in advance.

43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, 44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

The believers should have been tuned into the Lord's speaking. The judgement is because they weren't. If they had been they would have known the time of our visitation. I have posted links to at least ten different watchmen, maybe even 20 who are posting on the internet concerning the fulfillment of the Lord's word. Some of these things are truly astounding, yet they are well documented. I put up two astounding links yesterday. One concerning Moloch and Baal worshippers involved in child trafficking and the other about the purpose of this Covid vaccine.

45 And he went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought;

They refer to the Federal Reserve as "the Temple" here in the US. Others refer to the Capitol building as "sacred ground". There are a lot of people in this government who are involved in selling out this country and there are nefarious agents involved in buying up the US as though they were buying slaves. The $6 trillion stimulus package is one example, the FED buying up the S&P 500 is another. Giving Bhagram air base to China is still another. Cancelling our pipeline and giving Russia access to Europe is yet another.

46 Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves.


If you cannot see that the US government is a den of thieves then either you are willfully blind to this or your mental faculties are severely impaired. The church is supposed to be a house of prayer, but far too many have cut a deal with the government and been infiltrated by Freemasons and have become a den of thieves. I put up a link concerning the Catholic church on this.

47 And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him, 48 And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.

They tried to destroy those involved in Jan 6th but that has backfired. They tried to scare away parents from school board meetings concerning CRT but that has turned into a joke "Moms versus the FBI". They tried to scare people away from Joe Rogan and Ivermectin but that blew up in their face as CNN's ratings crashed and Rogan's ratings soared. MSNBC, CNN, Facebook, and Twitter are all seeing people leave. The term "Let's go Brandon" refers to how united the country is against what is going on and how they see through the lies the mainstream media is pushing. Every day we are learning more and more. I was at a food bank on Friday passing out Bibles. We passed out 330 and many of those I passed them out to were very tuned in to what is going on. This word is getting out.
 

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Plan -- By 2026 7 billion people will be tagged with a digital identifier.

We are 3 1/2 years away from 2026

https://rumble.com/v15k2a7-x22-report-shocking-trump-news-dr.-zelenko-the-ds-failed.html
Think of the advantages of this.

1. No loss of revenue due to tax fraud -- if every single transaction is digitized and goes through a central government controlled bank then they will be able to easily assess taxes and collect taxes themselves.

2. Eliminate almost all crime -- if every person is tagged with a digital identifier then when a crime is committed they would immediately know who was there and when.

3. Eliminate the cost of housing and feeding criminals in a prison. Simply block their ability to buy and sell. They will become vagabonds and die without the government spending a dime.

Every person becomes a slave. And why would all the governments feel the urgent need to do this? Robots and AI are going to have a massive impact on the world's economy where overnight half the jobs will no longer be needed for people to do them. Even though Robots and AI cannot replace everyone in the workforce, they can certainly replace half of them today.

So then what changes are we looking at?

1. About 64% of the population works. If you only need half of them then you are talking about 32% of the population will still have necessary jobs, but many of those will be phased out slowly over the next few decades. How do you keep 32% of the population, over 100 million in America, from panicking? You create a universal basic income, so that those who lose their jobs do not feel the need to protest or revolt. However, these 100 million are "useless eaters" and the goal is to eliminate them.

2. Nip the problem in the bud by making the most of abortion and starving the babies who haven't been weaned yet.

3. Get rid of everyone on Social Security.

4. Encourage crime and drug overdoses to get rid of those.

The point is that the Government and world leaders can see that half of all workers worldwide are not needed. Also, all these governments provide entitlements to those who need socialized medicine or welfare. They are acutely aware that these people are "useless eaters" and they have the lists of who these people are (Social Security recipients, Welfare recipients, food stamps recipients, those who get unemployment checks, etc).

You cannot arrest 100 million people, you cannot "execute" 100 million people. But you can force them to get this digital identified injected into them, you can convert the currency to a digital currency you control, and when you have those two things you can simply turn off their "entitlements". Just do what China did, lock down the entire city, put them under marshall law, arrest those on the streets, and let them die in their homes under the pretense of a pandemic.