I'd like to thank Kakashi for posting the thread about being a jerk,I must admit It got me to reexamining my own posts to some threads,Even tho I felt I was defending my friends,ie bros.And sisters in christ,sometimes I came off as a first class jerk .
Often times I look at some of the debates and they remind me of an old movie with Lilly Tomlyn and Steve Martin(Can't remember the name of it )But the plot was that through a freak scientific accident Steve and Lillys' brain become combined in Steves' body ,and the comical fights they get into in that body remind me of the Church here lately,Not just in these threads or in the Chatrooms but even in local church denominations,Each one is battling with the other for the right to be right.If you dont believe like I do youre indanger of loosing rewards or the worse hell fire.Petecostals say the baptists are hell bound and baptists say that Charismatics are in danger of loosing rewards and hell bound,And Nondenoms say they are all wrong ,all the while teaching the same thing as baptist or charismatics,or a combination of both.
Which reminds me of a joke
This guy dies and stands befor St.Peter at the pearly gates,
St.Pete looks at his book to see if the guy was in it,and sure enough he was there was saved ,believed in the resurected Christ and was covered by the blood,
But he never decided to follow a denom.
So St.Pete looks at him and sais"Your records look really good,But I dont know where to put ya","sais here you never decided on a denomination".,he exclaims to him,"lets take a walk to see where you fit in"
So they go down this looooong hallway,with all these doors,behind each door was a different denomination,one by one they look into each door to see where this guy wanted to live through eternioty worshiping God in a way he learned to.
So they come to the last 2 doors.Looked in one and the folx were laughing and praising ,dancing,hoopin and hollerin,loud music,ete.
"Looks like a big ol party",The guy exclaimed,"too loud for me tho personally",
So St>Pete closes that door and opens the last one.
The folx there were more,How do I say,relaxed?,Yeah.
It was dead calm,Still,you could hear a pin drop in that room,The Room wqas really nicely decorated,the pews were all brand new looking,every one seemed to be praying or sleepin,
The guy opened his mouth to speak ,But St.Pete put his hand over his mouth ,and slowly shut the door.
Then said Shhhhhhhhhhh......,
Walking down the hallway the guy asked about the room and why he couldnt speak.
And St.Pete said
"They think they're the onlyones here"
I wonder how many of us are gunna end up in that room.
I try to go by live and let live,Ya know ?I mean aslong as I dont see them worshiping anyone other than Christ Jesus,Or hear them preaching anything other than Christ and Him cruicified,What does it matter if they think healing is not for today,Let them ask God Himself.
What if someone wants to live for christ and go to church on Saturday instead of sunday,Let them ask God Himself,If I want to go to church on thursday, I personally dont think God will have a problem with it.
But what I do see God having a problem with folx passin judgement on eachother,forcing their laws on one another ,
If Youre female,Dont wear pants ,dont cut your hair,dont preach,or even speak in church.And God forbids jewelery and makeup,
All the while taking advantage of each other in business deals,using tithes to further church projects,buildings etc.instead of feeding the poor and visiting the sick and afflicted.Our widows in this country are thrown into institutions and nursing homes.
What was Sodoms "real "sin?Fornication?Homosexuality?
Let me show you something..................
Eze 16:48 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.
Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
Eze 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Which one was the least and last mentioned?looks to me like the only one mentioned by most churches is the last one in the list.
And Not to mention that Sodom was Jerusalems SISTER!
ever hear that taught in church?
You may have, but for the most part you hardly ever hear it.Matter of fact I've met preachers and teachers that dont understand the signifigance of that statement!
If Sodom was Jerusalems sister then She 'that city'Was in the same covenant as Jerusalem.Under the same laws and rules.
And through Christs' blood and only His blood are we included in that covenant,Not in word but in deed,through crucifixion,And we augh crucify our flesh and treat each other with the self same respect as we expect.
Patience in teaching is paramount! If you dont have the patience to sit in a oom with a 4 yearold without going off the hook and threatoning to pull your hair out if you cant get out of that room ,You have no buisinss trying to teach anything.If you argue with a kinderguardner over which color of crayon would look best in a picture of a dog,You haave no business teaching anything.What does it matter if the dog is blue?Its still a dog!And they'll learn that dogs aint really bright blue with purple polkadots.
Denominations, to me ,are just as trivial .If you feel that working isnt nessesary to show faith,or you feel that works and faith go hand in hand,Praise God!
Sit back and watch those that work do their work and let your faith shine!
But dont sit there and critisize their work while you are sitin there!
I'm inclined to believe like Brothers Baruch and BLC,That time is short,
But its too short to be found bickering about basics of scripture,and not fighting the real opponent.
The true opponent is ourselves!
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. (and following verses)
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
(read this whole chapter)
2Co 10:7 Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
Often times I look at some of the debates and they remind me of an old movie with Lilly Tomlyn and Steve Martin(Can't remember the name of it )But the plot was that through a freak scientific accident Steve and Lillys' brain become combined in Steves' body ,and the comical fights they get into in that body remind me of the Church here lately,Not just in these threads or in the Chatrooms but even in local church denominations,Each one is battling with the other for the right to be right.If you dont believe like I do youre indanger of loosing rewards or the worse hell fire.Petecostals say the baptists are hell bound and baptists say that Charismatics are in danger of loosing rewards and hell bound,And Nondenoms say they are all wrong ,all the while teaching the same thing as baptist or charismatics,or a combination of both.
Which reminds me of a joke
This guy dies and stands befor St.Peter at the pearly gates,
St.Pete looks at his book to see if the guy was in it,and sure enough he was there was saved ,believed in the resurected Christ and was covered by the blood,
But he never decided to follow a denom.
So St.Pete looks at him and sais"Your records look really good,But I dont know where to put ya","sais here you never decided on a denomination".,he exclaims to him,"lets take a walk to see where you fit in"
So they go down this looooong hallway,with all these doors,behind each door was a different denomination,one by one they look into each door to see where this guy wanted to live through eternioty worshiping God in a way he learned to.
So they come to the last 2 doors.Looked in one and the folx were laughing and praising ,dancing,hoopin and hollerin,loud music,ete.
"Looks like a big ol party",The guy exclaimed,"too loud for me tho personally",
So St>Pete closes that door and opens the last one.
The folx there were more,How do I say,relaxed?,Yeah.
It was dead calm,Still,you could hear a pin drop in that room,The Room wqas really nicely decorated,the pews were all brand new looking,every one seemed to be praying or sleepin,
The guy opened his mouth to speak ,But St.Pete put his hand over his mouth ,and slowly shut the door.
Then said Shhhhhhhhhhh......,
Walking down the hallway the guy asked about the room and why he couldnt speak.
And St.Pete said
"They think they're the onlyones here"
I wonder how many of us are gunna end up in that room.
I try to go by live and let live,Ya know ?I mean aslong as I dont see them worshiping anyone other than Christ Jesus,Or hear them preaching anything other than Christ and Him cruicified,What does it matter if they think healing is not for today,Let them ask God Himself.
What if someone wants to live for christ and go to church on Saturday instead of sunday,Let them ask God Himself,If I want to go to church on thursday, I personally dont think God will have a problem with it.
But what I do see God having a problem with folx passin judgement on eachother,forcing their laws on one another ,
If Youre female,Dont wear pants ,dont cut your hair,dont preach,or even speak in church.And God forbids jewelery and makeup,
All the while taking advantage of each other in business deals,using tithes to further church projects,buildings etc.instead of feeding the poor and visiting the sick and afflicted.Our widows in this country are thrown into institutions and nursing homes.
What was Sodoms "real "sin?Fornication?Homosexuality?
Let me show you something..................
Eze 16:48 As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.
Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
Eze 16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.
Which one was the least and last mentioned?looks to me like the only one mentioned by most churches is the last one in the list.
And Not to mention that Sodom was Jerusalems SISTER!
ever hear that taught in church?
You may have, but for the most part you hardly ever hear it.Matter of fact I've met preachers and teachers that dont understand the signifigance of that statement!
If Sodom was Jerusalems sister then She 'that city'Was in the same covenant as Jerusalem.Under the same laws and rules.
And through Christs' blood and only His blood are we included in that covenant,Not in word but in deed,through crucifixion,And we augh crucify our flesh and treat each other with the self same respect as we expect.
Patience in teaching is paramount! If you dont have the patience to sit in a oom with a 4 yearold without going off the hook and threatoning to pull your hair out if you cant get out of that room ,You have no buisinss trying to teach anything.If you argue with a kinderguardner over which color of crayon would look best in a picture of a dog,You haave no business teaching anything.What does it matter if the dog is blue?Its still a dog!And they'll learn that dogs aint really bright blue with purple polkadots.
Denominations, to me ,are just as trivial .If you feel that working isnt nessesary to show faith,or you feel that works and faith go hand in hand,Praise God!
Sit back and watch those that work do their work and let your faith shine!
But dont sit there and critisize their work while you are sitin there!
I'm inclined to believe like Brothers Baruch and BLC,That time is short,
But its too short to be found bickering about basics of scripture,and not fighting the real opponent.
The true opponent is ourselves!
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. (and following verses)
Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
Rom 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
(read this whole chapter)
2Co 10:7 Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.