Did Jesus drink alcohol?
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Scripture does not identify Jesus as a Nazarite
Because He was heading into The Sabbath Day that had been alluded to since the Ten Commandments had been given.
And indeed they pulled out his beard and...well...you get it.
I never read anywhere Jesus was a virtual Nazarite.
But you DO bring up a valid point of Jesus being our Great High Priest.
It reminded me that we are joint heirs of Christ & have been made priests of His kingdom.
Now that certainly shakes things up about the church, doesn't it?
But you DO bring up a valid point of Jesus being our Great High Priest.
It reminded me that we are joint heirs of Christ & have been made priests of His kingdom.
Now that certainly shakes things up about the church, doesn't it?
Before this it was verboten to even attempt such things....Uzziah tried and got leprosy and caused an earthquake for even trying to do it.
1Peter 2:4And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by people, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, 5you also, as living stones, [j]are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices that are acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6For this is contained in [k]Scripture:
“BEHOLD, I AM LAYING IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNERSTONE,
AND THE ONE WHO BELIEVES IN [l]HIM WILL NOT BE [m]PUT TO SHAME.” 7This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for unbelievers,
“A STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED,
THIS BECAME THE [n]CHIEF CORNERSTONE,” 8and,
“A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE”;
for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this they were also appointed.
9But you are A CHOSEN PEOPLE, A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR GOD’S OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10for you once were NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are THE PEOPLE OF GOD; you had NOT RECEIVED MERCY, but now you have RECEIVED MERCY.
Since we live under a covenant established on better promises, shouldn't we take our role as priest more seriously than the Levites?
Shouldn't that affect how we live & act in public as God's priests?!?
Honestly, I can't see myself in a bar drinking with the world & being God's priest.
“BEHOLD, I AM LAYING IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNERSTONE,
AND THE ONE WHO BELIEVES IN [l]HIM WILL NOT BE [m]PUT TO SHAME.” 7This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for unbelievers,
“A STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED,
THIS BECAME THE [n]CHIEF CORNERSTONE,” 8and,
“A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE”;
for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this they were also appointed.
9But you are A CHOSEN PEOPLE, A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR GOD’S OWN POSSESSION, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10for you once were NOT A PEOPLE, but now you are THE PEOPLE OF GOD; you had NOT RECEIVED MERCY, but now you have RECEIVED MERCY.
Since we live under a covenant established on better promises, shouldn't we take our role as priest more seriously than the Levites?
Shouldn't that affect how we live & act in public as God's priests?!?
Honestly, I can't see myself in a bar drinking with the world & being God's priest.
Paul actually advised Timothy to drink some wine rather than only water for his health
“Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.”
1 Timothy 5:23
and then he says to the church “don’t be drunk on wine “
“And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;”
Ephesians 5:18 KJV
I think the thing is wine isn’t evil , but drinking wine to get drunk is not appropriate because when your drunk you do things you wouldn’t and say things you wouldn’t it alters the mind . To have a glass or two with dinner doesn’t really affect you
it seems wine was a celebratory drink like at weddings I think biblically wine isn’t evil but anything can be evil if we use it that way a lot of times it’s how we partake of things that makes it wrong and not the thing itself
I’d say the person saying it’s fruit juice probably thinks it’s a sin to drink wine and is reasoning Jesus must not have drank any wine but there is no reason for us to think that.
It’s alright to have a glass of wine it seems not alright to get drunk on wine or anything else
“Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.”
1 Timothy 5:23
and then he says to the church “don’t be drunk on wine “
“And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;”
Ephesians 5:18 KJV
I think the thing is wine isn’t evil , but drinking wine to get drunk is not appropriate because when your drunk you do things you wouldn’t and say things you wouldn’t it alters the mind . To have a glass or two with dinner doesn’t really affect you
it seems wine was a celebratory drink like at weddings I think biblically wine isn’t evil but anything can be evil if we use it that way a lot of times it’s how we partake of things that makes it wrong and not the thing itself
I’d say the person saying it’s fruit juice probably thinks it’s a sin to drink wine and is reasoning Jesus must not have drank any wine but there is no reason for us to think that.
It’s alright to have a glass of wine it seems not alright to get drunk on wine or anything else
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Of course it was not applicable for anytime preceeding that....
But according to the Jews that I knew...that statement by Jesus was an abbreviated way of taking those vows. I was somewhat taken aback by learning this from a former Jewish girlfriend.
All things "jewish" I leaned on her expertise...she was raised Jewish. She had a sinking feeling, because she was adopted, that she actually was Spanish or Portuguese, but she was definitely raised in a Jewish home. Today we got genetic testing that could verify.....however the Jews and the Native Americans have real issues with this.
But according to the Jews that I knew...that statement by Jesus was an abbreviated way of taking those vows. I was somewhat taken aback by learning this from a former Jewish girlfriend.
All things "jewish" I leaned on her expertise...she was raised Jewish. She had a sinking feeling, because she was adopted, that she actually was Spanish or Portuguese, but she was definitely raised in a Jewish home. Today we got genetic testing that could verify.....however the Jews and the Native Americans have real issues with this.
Where I just said....
Disciples do EXACTLY as their Rabbi does....
If he sneezes at a particular flower you sneeze at that flower....if he breaks the matzah then prays you do it exactly the same way....NO deviations. If your rabbi snores when he sleeps and you dont....well, you learn how.
The Disciples whole job was to completely mimic everything their rabbi did in word and action.
Disciples do EXACTLY as their Rabbi does....
If he sneezes at a particular flower you sneeze at that flower....if he breaks the matzah then prays you do it exactly the same way....NO deviations. If your rabbi snores when he sleeps and you dont....well, you learn how.
The Disciples whole job was to completely mimic everything their rabbi did in word and action.
There was more than that...it especially focused on grapes and grape products. Kinda odd in that respect....but Jesus used it as the locus of his vow.
But also the hair. You either cut it off and shaved your head at the start or not. (Elisha, kids and bears) and again at the end. But not during. Which is what got Sampson in trouble.
But also the hair. You either cut it off and shaved your head at the start or not. (Elisha, kids and bears) and again at the end. But not during. Which is what got Sampson in trouble.
