Did Jesus drink alcohol?

[Bluesproverb]

yes what good is a hot tub without bubbles?
((so go the rumors))
then it's just 'people soup'

You've ruined the visual.

People soup.

''PEOPLE!! It's made of PEOPLLLLE!''

 

[posthuman]

in fact, unfermented wine was used as a symbol of God's blessing to His people in the Old Testament.

like here --

Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart,
for God has already approved what you do.
Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil.
(Ecclesiastes 9:7-8)
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clearly such things as delicious snacks, nourishing freshly-squeezed pasteurized grape juice, fancy clothes & moisturizing facials at the spa are blessings from God.

our daily bread

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[posthuman]

i have decided to be thankful in all things

 

[tourist]

You've ruined the visual.

People soup.

''PEOPLE!! It's made of PEOPLLLLE!''

Soylent Green.

 

[oyster67]

Ramblin' around this dirty old town,
Singin' for nickels and dimes.
Times getting tough i ain't got enough,
To buy me a bottle of wine.

Comes ye on erver ty my place that we might cry tygether....

 

[oyster67]

Soylent Green.

As long as it's not made of Oysters, I don't mind a bit.

 

[TheLearner]

Part of the reason that prompted this question is that Pastor Steven Anderson said that "oene" in the NT refers to non-alcoholic fruit juice.
I'd be interested in reading others' opinions.

He is WRONG, every Jewish person drank fermented wine with their meals. Welches did not make grape juice until around the 1800's.
Wine Skins do not burst due to grape juice.

 

[jaybo]

I have, dozens of times all the way through. I was simply stating the point that no one has submitted scripture stating Jesus drank wine.


I'm very familiar with the passages. Why would you say this? All I was stating is that no one in this entire thread has posted any scripture stating the facts. That's all. I wasn't saying he did or didn't.

Jesus drank wine. I and others have posted relevant Scripture. Now your stating that "no one has submitted scripture stating Jesus drank wine" has been resolved.

 

[John146]

Jesus drank wine. I and others have posted relevant Scripture. Now your stating that "no one has submitted scripture stating Jesus drank wine" has been resolved.

Correct, I never said he didn’t. I was simply stating about a thread using no scripture to argue a point. I know what saith the scriptures.

 

[TheLearner]

I know it was a Roman and Greek thing to do so but did not know the jewish people of that time did so... the torah does not mention wine dilution.

JF

Genesis 14:18
Melchizedek king of ·Salem [C probably an old name of Jerusalem] brought out bread and wine. He was a priest for God Most High [Ps. 110; Heb. 5:6–10; 6:20—7:28]

Hebrews 7
The Priest Melchizedek
Melchizedek [C a priest and king in the time of Abraham; Gen. 14:17–24; Heb. 5:6, 10; 6:20] was the king of Salem [C another name for Jerusalem, meaning “peace”; v. 2] and a priest for God Most High. He met Abraham when Abraham was coming back after ·defeating [L the slaughter of] the kings [Gen. 14:17–19]. When they met, Melchizedek blessed Abraham, and Abraham ·gave [L apportioned/divided to] him a ·tenth [tithe] ·of everything he had brought back from the battle [L of everything]. First, Melchizedek’s name means “king of ·goodness [righteousness; justice],” and he is king of Salem [C another name for Jerusalem], which means “king of peace.” ·No one knows who Melchizedek’s father or mother was [L …without father, without mother], ·where he came from [L without genealogy], ·when he was born, or when he died [L having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; C something unstated was assumed not to exist]. Melchizedek is like the Son of God; he continues being a priest forever [C Melchizedek’s unmentioned genealogy in Genesis is, by analogy, like Jesus’ eternal Sonship and priesthood]. ..

Hebrews 7:15
Jesus Is like Melchizedek
And this becomes even more clear ·when we see that [L if] another priest ·comes [arises; appears on the scene] who is like Melchizedek [vv. 1–14].

 

[TheLearner]

Genesis 27:25
Then Isaac said, “Bring ·me the food [L it to me], and I will eat ·it [L my son’s game] and bless you.” So Jacob gave him the food, and he ate. Jacob gave him wine, and he drank.

Genesis 40:1
Joseph Interprets Two Dreams
After these things happened, two of the king of Egypt’s officers ·displeased [offended; sinned against] the king—·the man who served wine [cupbearer] to the king and the king’s baker [C two important positions in the king’s court].

Exodus 22:29
“Do not hold back your offering from the first of your harvest and the first wine that you make. Also, you must give me your firstborn sons

Judges 19:19
We already have straw and food for our donkeys and bread and wine for me, ·the young woman [L your maidservant], and my ·servant [L the young man with your servants; C politely referring to himself and his servants as the old man’s servants]. We don’t need anything.”

1 Samuel 10:3
“Then you will go on until you reach the ·big [L oak] tree at Tabor. Three men ·on their way to worship [L going up to] God at Bethel will meet you there. One man will be carrying three ·goats [kids]. Another will be carrying three loaves of bread. And the third will have a ·leather bag [skin] full of wine.

Ezra 3:7
Rebuilding the Temple
Then they gave money to the ·bricklayers [masons] and carpenters. They also gave food, ·wine [drink], and olive oil to the cities of Sidon and Tyre so they would ·float [bring] cedar logs from Lebanon to the seacoast town of Joppa. Cyrus king of Persia had given permission for this.

Ezra 6:9
Give those people anything they need—young bulls, ·male sheep [rams], or lambs for burnt offerings [Lev. 1:1–17] to the God of heaven, or wheat, salt, wine, or olive oil. Give the priests in Jerusalem anything they ·ask for [require] every day without fail.

Nehemiah 2:1
Nehemiah Is Sent to Jerusalem
It was the month of Nisan [C early spring] in the twentieth year Artaxerxes was king [C 445 bc]. Wine was brought ·for him [or to me]. I took some and gave it to the king. I had not been sad in his presence before.

Esther 5:6
As they were drinking wine, the king said to Esther, “Now, what ·are you asking for [is your petition]? I will ·give it to you [grant it]. What is ·it you want [your request]? ·I will give you [Ask for] as much as half of my kingdom and it shall be done.”

 

[TheLearner]

Job 32:19
I am like wine that has ·been bottled up [no vent/opening]; I am ready to burst like a new leather wine bag.

Psalm 75:8
The Lord holds a cup in his hand; it is ·full of wine mixed with [foaming wine full of] spices [C the cup of God’s wrath; 60:3; Jer. 25:15–29; Nah. 3:11; Matt. 26:39]. He pours it out ·even to the last drop [until its dregs drain out], and the wicked drink it all.

Proverbs 23:20
Don’t ·drink too much [get drunk on] wine or ·eat too much food [L stuff yourself with meat].

Matthew 9:17
Also, people never pour new wine into old ·leather bags [wineskins]. Otherwise, the ·bags [wineskins] will ·break [burst; C because the fermenting wine expands], the wine will spill, and the ·wine bags [wineskins] will be ruined. But people always pour new wine into ·new [fresh] ·wine bags [wineskins]. Then both ·will continue to be good [are preserved].”

 

[TheLearner]

Matthew 11:19
The Son of Man came, eating and drinking, and people say, ‘Look at him! ·He eats too much and drinks too much wine [L He’s a glutton and a drunkard], and he is a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ But wisdom is ·proved to be right [vindicated] by ·what she does [or its deeds/actions/results; C Wisdom is personified as a woman (Prov. 8), her “children” being those who respond favorably to the message of John and Jesus].”

1. Matthew 21:33
   The Story of the Evil Farmers
   “Listen to ·this story [another parable]: There was a ·man who owned [landowner who planted] a vineyard. He put a wall around it and dug a ·hole [vat; pit] for a winepress and built a tower [C to protect against thieves; see Is. 5:1–7 for the background to this parable]. Then he leased the land to some [C tenant] farmers and left for a trip [C the owner represents God, the farmers are Israel’s religious leaders].
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2. Matthew 26:29
   I tell you this: I will not drink of this ·fruit of the vine [wine] again until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”
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3. Matthew 27:34
   ·The soldiers [L They; C this could be the soldiers or the women of Jerusalem] gave Jesus wine mixed with gall to drink [C the gall was either a sedative or further mockery, making the wine bitter; Ps. 69:21; Prov. 31:6]. He tasted the wine but refused to drink it.
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4. Matthew 27:48
   ·Quickly [At once] one of them ran and got a sponge and filled it with ·vinegar [or sour wine; C an inexpensive drink used by soldiers and slaves] and tied it to a ·stick [reed] and gave it to Jesus to drink [Ps. 69:21].
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5. Mark 2:22
   Also, no one ever pours new wine into old ·leather bags [wineskins]. Otherwise, the new wine will break the ·bags [skins; C as the wine ferments and expands], and the wine will be ·ruined [lost] along with the ·bags [skins]. But new wine should be put into new ·leather bags [wineskins].”
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6. Mark 12:1
   The Story of the Evil Farmers
   [Then] Jesus began ·to use stories to teach the people [L to speak to them in parables; see 3:23]. He said, “A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it and dug a ·hole [vat; pit] for a winepress and built a tower [C to protect against thieves; see Is. 5:1–7 for the background to this parable]. Then he leased the land to some [C tenant] farmers and left for a trip [C the owner represents God, the farmers are Israel’s religious leaders].
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7. Mark 14:25
   I tell you the truth, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine [C wine] again until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”
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8. Mark 15:23
   ·The soldiers [L  They; C this could be the soldiers or the women of Jerusalem] tried to give Jesus wine mixed with myrrh to drink [C a narcotic meant to dull the pain; Prov. 31:6; Ps. 69:21], but he refused.
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9. Mark 15:36
   Someone there ran and got a sponge, filled it with ·vinegar [or sour wine; C an inexpensive drink used by soldiers and slaves], tied it to a ·stick [reed], and gave it to Jesus to drink [Ps. 69:21]. He said, “[Leave him be; Wait!] We want to see if Elijah will come to take him down from the cross.”
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10. Luke 1:15
    [L For; Because] John will be a great man ·for [in the eyes of; L before] the Lord. He will never drink wine or beer [C indicating he will be set apart to God for special service; Num. 6:3], and even ·from birth [or in his mother’s womb; 1:41, 44], he will be filled with the Holy Spirit.
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11. Luke 5:37
    Also, no one pours new wine into old ·leather bags [wineskins]. Otherwise, the new wine will ·break [tear; burst; C because the fermenting new wine expands] the ·bags [wineskins], the wine will spill out, and the ·leather bags [wineskins] will be ruined.
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12. Luke 5:38
    [L But; Rather] New wine must be put into ·new [fresh] ·leather bags [wineskins].
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[TheLearner]

1. Luke 5:39
   No one after drinking old wine wants new wine, because he says, ‘The old wine is ·better [fine; good].’” [C The religious leaders are content with the old ways of Judaism and not interested in the “new wine” (salvation blessings) of the Kingdom.]
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2. Luke 7:33
   [L For] John the Baptist came and did not eat bread or drink wine, and you say, ‘He ·has [is possessed by] a demon in him.’
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3. Luke 7:34
   The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at him! ·He eats too much and drinks too much wine [L A glutton and a drunkard], and he is a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’
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4. Luke 10:34
   The Samaritan went to him, poured olive oil and wine on his wounds [C to soothe and clean them], and bandaged them. Then he put the hurt man on his own ·donkey [L animal] and took him to an inn where he cared for him.
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5. Luke 22:18
   [L For I tell you] I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine [C wine] until God’s kingdom comes.”
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6. Luke 23:36
   The soldiers also ·made fun of [mocked] him, coming to Jesus and offering him some ·vinegar [sour wine].
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7. John 2:3
   When all the wine was gone, Jesus’ mother said to him, “They have no more wine.”
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8. John 2:9
   When he tasted it, the water had become wine. He did not know where the wine came from, but the servants who had brought the water knew. The ·master of the wedding [chief steward; headwaiter] called the bridegroom
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9. John 2:10
   and said to him, “People always serve the ·best [expensive] wine first. Later, after the guests have been drinking awhile [C and are less discriminating], they serve the ·cheaper [inferior] wine. But you have saved the ·best [expensive] wine till now.”
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10. John 4:46
    Jesus went again to visit Cana in Galilee where he had changed the water into wine [2:1–11]. One of the king’s important officers lived in the city of Capernaum, and his son was sick.
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11. John 4:54
    That was the second ·miracle [L sign; C the first sign was turning water into wine; 2:1–11] Jesus did after coming from Judea to Galilee.
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12. John 19:29
    There was a jar full of ·vinegar [sour wine] there, so the soldiers soaked a sponge in it, put the sponge on a ·branch [stalk] of a hyssop plant, and lifted it to Jesus’ mouth.
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13. John 19:30
    When Jesus ·tasted [L received] the ·vinegar [sour wine], he said, “It is ·finished [completed; accomplished].” Then he bowed his head and ·died [L gave up/yielded his spirit].
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[TheLearner]

1. Acts 2:13
   But others ·were making fun of them [sneered], saying, “They have had too much [sweet; new] wine [C they accuse them of being intoxicated and speaking nonsense].”
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2. Romans 14:21
   It is ·better [good] not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that will cause your brother or sister to ·sin [stumble; fall].
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3. Ephesians 5:18
   Do not be drunk with wine, which ·will ruin you [is debauchery/reckless living], but be filled with the Spirit.
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4. 1 Timothy 3:3
   He must not drink too much wine or ·like to fight [be violent/a troublemaker], but rather be gentle and ·peaceable [not quarrelsome/contentious], not ·loving money [avaricious; greedy].
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[TheLearner]

1. 1 Timothy 3:8
   Deacons in the Church
   In the same way, deacons must be ·respected by others [dignified], not ·saying things they do not mean [insincere; two-faced; deceitful]. They must not drink too much wine or ·try to get rich by cheating others [be greedy for money/profit].
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2. 1 Timothy 5:23
   Stop drinking only water, but drink a little wine to help your stomach and your frequent sicknesses.
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3. Titus 1:7
   As God’s ·managers [stewards], overseers [C probably the same church office as elder; 1 Tim. 3:1, 6, 7; 5:17] must be ·innocent of wrongdoing [blameless], ·unselfish [not arrogant/self-willed], not ·quick-tempered [easily angered]. They must not ·drink too much wine [be a drunkard], ·like to fight [be violent/a brawler], or ·try to get rich by cheating others [be greedy for gain/dishonest in business].
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4. Titus 2:3
   In the same way, teach older women to be ·holy [reverent] in their behavior, not ·speaking against [slandering; gossiping about] others or enslaved to ·too much wine [excessive drinking], but teaching what is good.
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5. Revelation 6:6
   Then I heard something that sounded like a voice coming from the middle of the four living creatures. The voice said, “A quart of wheat for a ·day’s pay [L denarius; C a Roman coin equal to a day’s wage], and three quarts of barley for a ·day’s pay [L denarius; C inflated prices caused by famine], and do not damage the olive oil and wine [C indicates only partial destruction; vines and olive trees endured drought better than wheat and barley]!”
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6. Revelation 14:8
   Then the second angel followed the first angel and said, “·Ruined, ruined [L Fallen, fallen] is ·the great city of Babylon [L Babylon the Great; C the capital of the empire that destroyed Jerusalem in 586 bc, a symbol for the evil world system opposing God; 2 Kin. 24—25; Is. 21:9; Dan. 4:30]! She made all the nations drink the wine of the ·anger [or passion; C the Greek word thymos can mean either anger or passion; see v. 10 for a possible play on words] of her ·adultery [or sexual immorality].”
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7. Revelation 14:10
   that one also will drink the wine of God’s anger [C perhaps a play on words with v. 8; Babylon’s “passion” will bring on God’s “wrath”], which is prepared ·with all its strength [undiluted; L unmixed; C wine was often mixed with water] in the cup of his anger [C God’s judgment is often portrayed in the OT as a “cup” of wine poured out; Jer. 25:15–29]. And that person will be ·put in pain [tortured; tormented] with ·burning sulfur [L fire and sulfur] before the holy angels and the Lamb.
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[TheLearner]

• Revelation 14:19
  Then the angel swung his sickle over the earth. He gathered the earth’s grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s ·anger [wrath; Is. 63:2–3, 6; Lam. 1:15].
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• Revelation 14:20
  They were trampled in the winepress outside the city, and blood flowed out of the winepress as high as horses’ bridles for a distance of about ·one hundred eighty miles [L one thousand six hundred stadia].
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• Revelation 16:19
  The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations ·were destroyed [fell; collapsed]. And God remembered ·the sins of Babylon [L Babylon] the Great, so he gave that city the cup filled with the wine of ·his terrible anger [L the anger/fury of his wrath; 14:8].
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• Revelation 17:2
  The kings of the earth ·sinned sexually [prostituted themselves; committed fornication] with her, and the people of the earth became drunk from the wine of her ·sexual sin [prostitution; fornication; 14:8].”
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• Revelation 18:3
  She has ·been ruined [fallen], because all the ·peoples [nations] of the earth have ·drunk [some manuscripts read “have fallen from”] the wine of the ·desire [passion] of her ·sexual sin [promiscuity; fornication; 14:8; 17:2]. She has been ruined also because the kings of the earth have ·sinned sexually [fornicated] with her, and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the ·great wealth [power] of her ·luxury [sensuality].”
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• Revelation 18:6
  ·Give [Pay back] that city the same as she ·gave to [paid] others. Pay her back ·twice as much as [double what] she did. ·Prepare wine for her that is twice as strong as the wine she prepared for others [L In the cup she mixed, mix double for her; 14:8].
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• Revelation 18:13
  [and cargoes of] cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, sheep, horses, carriages [wagons], ·slaves, and human lives [L bodies and human souls].
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• Revelation 19:15
  Out of the rider’s mouth comes a sharp sword [1:16] that he will use to ·defeat [strike down] the nations [Is. 11:4], and he will ·rule [or shepherd] them with a ·rod [staff; scepter] of iron [Ps. 2:9]. He will ·crush out [tread; stomp] the wine in the winepress of the ·terrible anger [furious wrath] of God the ·Almighty [All-powerful; 19:13; Is. 63:1–6].

 

[Bluesproverb]

No one's yet posted scripture that proves Jesus drank wine....😝😆

 

[TheLearner]

I was under the impression that wine needs to ferment. So if thats the case id say no but then again if the wine had a chance to age....? Or possible there were 2 kinds of wine offered?

only that with alchol.

 

[TheLearner]

I was under the impression that wine needs to ferment. So if thats the case id say no but then again if the wine had a chance to age....? Or possible there were 2 kinds of wine offered?

new wine had weak alchol