Age of Marriage

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Well, your imagination is working against you seeing as none of this is true. I don't even have a coffee table.
It's sad how much of the church thinks that God's patience through Christ was free to Christ, or God.

And let me add, even if it was free to God, by some argument, he's still the boss, it's still his way or the highway.

Jesus forgives sins, this much is true, but the way some churches teach, he does so in the hopes that we go forth and sin even better next time.
 
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It's sad how much of the church thinks that God's patience through Christ was free to Christ, or God.

And let me add, even if it was free to God, by some argument, he's still the boss, it's still his way or the highway.

Jesus forgives sins, this much is true, but the way some churches teach, he does so in the hopes that we go forth and sin even better next time.
It was foretold that they would become this way. They reject the truth because it sounds harsh, but they do not understand that their ways, their deeds, are the actual harshness.
 
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It was foretold that they would become this way. They reject the truth because it sounds harsh, but they do not understand that their ways, their deeds, are the actual harshness.
I think that just like any discussion around Abortion, there are simply too many Fornicators and Adulterers who are hiding their shame, for the discussion to be logical and biblical.
I'd have to venture that a number of the very angry with this thread have long ago fallen victim to this sin themselves, and have been covering it up, with happy feeling posters and quips, and lies.
 
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I think that just like any discussion around Abortion, there are simply too many Fornicators and Adulterers who are hiding their shame, for the discussion to be logical and biblical.
I'd have to venture that a number of the very angry with this thread have long ago fallen victim to this sin themselves, and have been covering it up, with happy feeling posters and quips, and lies.
Right, and it is so often they take their rage out not on their illicit lovers or on themselves, but on the ones that refuse to do like they do and speak and do that which is right. In some ways it is tragically comedic, with more emphasis on tragically.
 

presidente

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My church has young adults below 15 who have been sexually active, and one of our young teens is now pregnant by one of our neighboring church's young men. It is the opinion of some of the men that the two should be married, and it is the opinion of some of the men that the two should not marry. Some in first reply have suggested adoption, and I know that some would even look past an abortion.

In the US, "legal" consent is normally no lower than 16. In Mexico I have heard it is 12.
Mary was probably 14-16 when she birthed Jesus.
Jesus says we cannot divorce.

I probably will have no say on this, but I want more help knowing how to talk about this.
Thoughts? Questions?
I think it's up to the parents and the kids in this case. The church can advise. It isn't the church's right to take over the father of the bride's responsibility to give a bride in marriage, and under state laws it would not be able to. Age of consent may sort of be waived or at least overlooked for marriage.

If it were one of mine I might consider marriage as an option, but how will a 15-year-old boy support his wife. One set of grandparents would have to step up and take financial responsibility for quite a while if this is the solution. If it were my family, I'd prefer that to adopting outside of the family. I wouldn't want to lose a grandchild.
 
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but how will a 15-year-old -young man-support his wife.
Anyone who leaves his home and clings to his wife is no longer a boy, especially as one working to be a father.

The answer lies in the same answer as anyone who must support themselves and a family. Lean on God to provide, and sew as God leads.

The difference between an 18 year old getting a career and a 15 yrold getting a career, is going to be the amount of responsiblity given, most of the time.
But there is plenty of work that can be done which doesn't require great amounts of responsibility, but still has value. Lawns need to be upkept, packages delivered, rows hoed straight and earth turned in, boards cut and nails driven, floors mopped, tables cleared, dishes washed, veggies cut and prepped....

It's only in a lack of imagination from that young man, and more importantly, those around the couple that there is some fear that there is not enough money, food, or goods available.
They're not going to be going on field trips to the Smithsonian, but they'll know how to burp and quiet a colicky baby like a pro, before they get to 17, and ask anyone whose had infants around, that's a skill that pays, don't tell me otherwise.
Meanwhile, their classmates from school will be having one-night-stands, abortions, and carrying STDs for life, so they can be in debt to some private lender for a college education that never matches what they end up doing for a living, and they only pay off after decades of usury.
 

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I am amazed at how many want to replace the directives of God with the reasonings of man, because modernity dictates.
This may also be the same reason your churches have such problems.