Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
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PennEd

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It's not just Moneypox, the vaccine is slowly destroying the immune system. So all sorts of diseases routinely dealt with by the immune system will get by:

Israeli COVID Vaccine Director Who was Physically Injured by Pfizer Vaccine — Is Locked Out of Twitter After Suggesting Link Between Monkeypox Outbreak and mRNA Vaccines
Israeli COVID Vaccine Director Who was Physically Injured by Pfizer Vaccine -- Is Locked Out of Twitter After Suggesting Link Between Monkeypox Outbreak and mRNA Vaccines (thegatewaypundit.com)
 
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The Nuremberg trials already answered this question, claiming you were simply "following orders" is not a defense when committing crimes against humanity. Machine gunning a bunch of elderly to fall into a ditch, or gassing people in these camps or even administering kill shots is not something that you can claim "I was just following orders" and avoid being prosecuted.
Unfortunately that excuse is still used today by unconscionable people.

I've encountered those professing to know Christ who insist we must always obey authorities. Because they were put in that authoritarian office by God.

That mindset is a threat to the church when they're telling us they'd obey the Antichrist in his position of authority.
 

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Who is breaking what human laws?

And by the way, it was breaking the law to hide or not turn in Jews in Nazi Germany.

Do you think Jesus would have turned people over to be gassed and burned?
One of numerous examples was the Father telling Joseph to take Jesus out of the country. But there's a large belief system that says that God ordained the murder of all infants and toddlers where Jesus was born.
I don't believe that for a second.
The Bible is clear about Romans 13 as well when seen from a proper perspective.
 

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Unfortunately that excuse is still used today by unconscionable people.

I've encountered those professing to know Christ who insist we must always obey authorities. Because they were put in that authoritarian office by God.

That mindset is a threat to the church when they're telling us they'd obey the Antichrist in his position of authority.
That wrong perspective was used by dictators like Hitler to get the christian churches behind them. Their priests and pastors were blind leaders of the blind. Jews weren't the only ones slaughtered. Christians were too, but didn't get the same coverage in the text books and by Zionism.
 
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Speaking of the gene altering illegal jab.
My neighbor told me they just applied for a job in the office of the local hospital.

Of course there was the COVID-19 jab rule in the app. However religious and personal exemption is an option.
Does anyone here have experience with invoking the religious exemption in such cases?

I texted him the following links. I was hoping for personal advice to pass along too.

https://www.hrmorning.com/news/covid-vaccines-religious-exemptions/

https://www.hrmorning.com/news/religious-objection-vaccine/
 
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That wrong perspective was used by dictators like Hitler to get the christian churches behind them. Their priests and pastors were blind leaders of the blind. Jews weren't the only ones slaughtered. Christians were too, but didn't get the same coverage in the text books and by Zionism.
Agreed. There were many that were made victim by the Nazis and the Final Solution.

What is also is minimized is that after WW2 Germans living in neighboring countries,having nothing to do with Hitlers evil, were slaughtered just for being Germans.

Not only that but Cuba, America and Canada turned away the cruise ship St.Louis that was filled with Jews fleeing the Holocaust.

America's authorities sent a gunship to shadow the St.Louis to make sure no one tried to jump ship and swim to our shores.


America knew what Hitler was doing. Our government signed a non-aggression treaty with Adolf Hitler to assure him we would not intervene.

God sets those in authority over us. Yet God set Lucifer as lord of this world too.

I think , as Job's story demonstrated , sometimes God let's Lucifer to seat who he will into office. As a test.

Because there was nothing righteous about turning away Jews fleeing the Holocaust.
The Statue of Liberty's
plaque, give us your tired, etc... didn't apply? For the government of this nation that boasted itself founded on Judeo-Christian principal's?
 

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(Feel free to forward this to your friend.)
Options:

Bottom of the page.
Then go up just past "Contact" to the Exemption Forms from 3 Baptist churches if they agree:
https://www.allthepreaching.com

Video they should watch a couple times and take notes so they can decide whether or not it's the path they want to take.

If they have, or will put their entire trust in Christ for salvation, then their body becomes the temple of the Holy Spirit. If I remember right, it was you that brought that up earlier.
I will include two gospel messages that should be clear on what that means. One is only about 4 minutes but contains less Bible, so both are recommended.


After praying with the message above, I would suggest that she get on here and join us in prayer for that job.
May the Lord protect her from the lethal injection and provide her the blessings above as well as the Job of His choice for her.
 
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It's not just Moneypox, the vaccine is slowly destroying the immune system. So all sorts of diseases routinely dealt with by the immune system will get by:

Israeli COVID Vaccine Director Who was Physically Injured by Pfizer Vaccine — Is Locked Out of Twitter After Suggesting Link Between Monkeypox Outbreak and mRNA Vaccines
Israeli COVID Vaccine Director Who was Physically Injured by Pfizer Vaccine -- Is Locked Out of Twitter After Suggesting Link Between Monkeypox Outbreak and mRNA Vaccines (thegatewaypundit.com)
No surprise there...

All I can say brother Ed is even so come, Lord Jesus come...
 
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(Feel free to forward this to your friend.)
Options:

Bottom of the page.
Then go up just past "Contact" to the Exemption Forms from 3 Baptist churches if they agree:
https://www.allthepreaching.com

Video they should watch a couple times and take notes so they can decide whether or not it's the path they want to take.

If they have, or will put their entire trust in Christ for salvation, then their body becomes the temple of the Holy Spirit. If I remember right, it was you that brought that up earlier.
I will include two gospel messages that should be clear on what that means. One is only about 4 minutes but contains less Bible, so both are recommended.


After praying with the message above, I would suggest that she get on here and join us in prayer for that job.
May the Lord protect her from the lethal injection and provide her the blessings above as well as the Job of His choice for her.
My post said my neighbor is a he, not a she. 😊

Thank you for the link and videos. I'll text them the link to your post and the included links separately in the event their phone has issues opening the forum thread. Thank you again.

I don't know why they'd want the bother. Though they said they're going for it for better job security than other businesses in the area offer with their levels of employee turnover.

Even local government has the same stipulation.

OBEY!
🙄
One day it may come down to comply or don't eat or make a living at all.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Agreed. There were many that were made victim by the Nazis and the Final Solution.

What is also is minimized is that after WW2 Germans living in neighboring countries,having nothing to do with Hitlers evil, were slaughtered just for being Germans.

Not only that but Cuba, America and Canada turned away the cruise ship St.Louis that was filled with Jews fleeing the Holocaust.

America's authorities sent a gunship to shadow the St.Louis to make sure no one tried to jump ship and swim to our shores.


America knew what Hitler was doing. Our government signed a non-aggression treaty with Adolf Hitler to assure him we would not intervene.

God sets those in authority over us. Yet God set Lucifer as lord of this world too.

I think , as Job's story demonstrated , sometimes God let's Lucifer to seat who he will into office. As a test.

Because there was nothing righteous about turning away Jews fleeing the Holocaust.
The Statue of Liberty's
plaque, give us your tired, etc... didn't apply? For the government of this nation that boasted itself founded on Judeo-Christian principal's?
That's interesting history.
I got to see this on the big screen thanks to the generosity of the theater manager who ordered it for us long after it made it's debut and was pulled from circulation.
It's a true story that included historian and the surviving family members involvement. They were interviewed for the screenplay content and character portrayals.
The movie crew worked during very cold and harsh conditions on a remote location.
The making of the movie has some extras that might interest you as a history buff of these tragic series of events. This movie has some rough language at times, so be forewarned. The message is the only encouraging one that I can recall concerning the Jews during WW2. It takes place in German occupied Belarusia.
 
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That's interesting history.
I got to see this on the big screen thanks to the generosity of the theater manager who ordered it for us long after it made it's debut and was pulled from circulation.
It's a true story that included historian and the surviving family members involvement. They were interviewed for the screenplay content and character portrayals.
The movie crew worked during very cold and harsh conditions on a remote location.
The making of the movie has some extras that might interest you as a history buff of these tragic series of events. This movie has some rough language at times, so be forewarned. The message is the only encouraging one that I can recall concerning the Jews during WW2. It takes place in German occupied Belarusia.
I caught the full documentary about the St.Louis on cable last year.
Then there was the documentary right behind it that talked about the fate of the German people after WW2.

I watched this one piece of archival footage wherein dozens of Germans who were citizens of a neighboring country whose name I can't remember were marched down a country road in a death march from Lodz.

Flanked by trucks, they eventually came to a stop. And then one of the trucks at the back of the line was driven past them as men in the back machine gunned everyone in the line.

These victims lived in that land for years. Long removed from Germany,much less Hitler's evil. And yet there these people were slaughtering them wholesale because they were of German descent.
Those mass murderers were acting out just as the Nazis did.

I wonder if they ever realized that?

Starvation of Germany after World War II by John Wear Published: 2019-05-25


11 Million Germans Were Murdered After WWII
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I caught the full documentary about the St.Louis on cable last year.
Then there was the documentary right behind it that talked about the fate of the German people after WW2.

I watched this one piece of archival footage wherein dozens of Germans who were citizens of a neighboring country whose name I can't remember were marched down a country road in a death march from Lodz.

Flanked by trucks, they eventually came to a stop. And then one of the trucks at the back of the line was driven past them as men in the back machine gunned everyone in the line.

These victims lived in that land for years. Long removed from Germany,much less Hitler's evil. And yet there these people were slaughtering them wholesale because they were of German descent.
Those mass murderers were acting out just as the Nazis did.

I wonder if they ever realized that?

Starvation of Germany after World War II by John Wear Published: 2019-05-25


11 Million Germans Were Murdered After WWII
Thanks! I will check those out.
I had no idea that there were so many.
There were many innocent Germans slaughtered needlessly by Soviet block communists after the War. That didn't get much press did it? A few German communities escaped during and after the war. I've talked to a couple of Bruderhoff settlements in PA. Nice folks. Some escaped the Nazi persecution.

About my previous post, ran out of time, 5 minutes, so was unable to clarify it after proofreading, posting too soon. The movie on the big screen that I mentioned wasn't the one you posted, that I'll watch when I have a block of time later. I was referring to the movie Defiance at the bottom. There were people who lost everything and set up large camps in the wilderness. Most war movies show the battlefields and military aspects , but this focused on the survival of what was actually thousands who were displaced, hunted and victimized by the war machine.
 

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Sounds interesting.
What are some of the chapters?
Definitely! Some of the chapters are:

-Self Feeding Fire
-Survival Food of the Civil War - How to make hardtack biscuits.
-Lost Pioneer Recipes from the 18th Century.
-How Pioneers built their smokehouses.
-How Sailors preserved their water on ships months on end.
-Filtering water supplies.
-How our Ancestors created candles and glue from pine resin.
-How the Sheriffs from the Frontiers defended their Villages and Towns.
-Foraging
-Trapping
-How our Ancestors made medicinal poultice to heal their wounds.

and much much more.

There's honestly plenty of primitive living books out there, including videos on Youtube.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Your post reminds me of the 12 book Foxfire series.
The first volume came out in 1972 and pertains to the culture of the Appalachian people who lived,live, off the grid and with nature.
All these years later and they're still best sellers.

We're talking learning how to make soap,candles, a home, all the way to hunting and skinning your kill.

If someone wants a higher education in living off the grid the Foxfire 12 book series is it.
I'll check it out.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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Definitely! Some of the chapters are:

-Self Feeding Fire
-Survival Food of the Civil War - How to make hardtack biscuits.
-Lost Pioneer Recipes from the 18th Century.
-How Pioneers built their smokehouses.
-How Sailors preserved their water on ships months on end.
-Filtering water supplies.
-How our Ancestors created candles and glue from pine resin.
-How the Sheriffs from the Frontiers defended their Villages and Towns.
-Foraging
-Trapping
-How our Ancestors made medicinal poultice to heal their wounds.

and much much more.

There's honestly plenty of primitive living books out there, including videos on Youtube.
Resource url is : askaprepper.com from Claude Davis. You can also have exclusive access to an ongoing online library called, "Survival Sanctum." Pretty neat stuff.

Warning, they do pitch a lot, but there is quite a bit of content that you can download via pdf file and print. Literally everything survival lol. From munitions, weapons, bartering, food, fortifying house, etc.
 
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Thanks! I will check those out.
I had no idea that there were so many.
There were many innocent Germans slaughtered needlessly by Soviet block communists after the War. That didn't get much press did it? A few German communities escaped during and after the war. I've talked to a couple of Bruderhoff settlements in PA. Nice folks. Some escaped the Nazi persecution.

About my previous post, ran out of time, 5 minutes, so was unable to clarify it after proofreading, posting too soon. The movie on the big screen that I mentioned wasn't the one you posted, that I'll watch when I have a block of time later. I was referring to the movie Defiance at the bottom. There were people who lost everything and set up large camps in the wilderness. Most war movies show the battlefields and military aspects , but this focused on the survival of what was actually thousands who were displaced, hunted and victimized by the war machine.
I did watch Defiance. Great movie recounting very brave people fighting to survive the Nazi's.

I think the full history of bad actors during and after WW2 as far as American media is largely due to a slant that presupposes the Jews are to be portrayed as its perpetual victims alone.

When history shows many others were victims. And were even victimized by Jews.

Humans!
The worst animal walking the planet save for the grace of God. And he made it so we had to murder him for that grace to go into effect as his new covenant.
🥺

And to think there are scientists serving in different fields that insist in all of existence, terrestrial and extraterrestrial, humans are the only intelligent life to exist anywhere at all.

 

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As to detoxing with the sauna, if you don't mind me adding this...

When I first got run down with what very possibly was CV19, I was at my job site and too weak to get up on the roof to work that morning. I didn't have immune boosting supplements or herbs available there, but the sun was shining. Knowing that I was likely D3 deficient, I took my shirt off, rolled up my pants and sunbathed in the middle of the field next to me. D3 you probably know is a hormone (called a vitamin) that is produced when the skin is exposed to the sun during the warm months. It's important for immune function.
After a while a turkey vulture spotted me and started circling. I decided to be careful to not fall asleep 😄,🦅 but when I got up I felt better and my energy returned. I was able to work on that roof and go back home at night. Morning is the best time to sunbath to prevent bad burns and get the benefit.

Ivermectin is not only anthelmintic/ parasiticide, but helps the Zinc get into cells. Zinc is deficient in most foods and has low absorption. If you supplement, I would make sure there's some food on your stomach before taking. Avoid the oxide form. It can upset your stomach. If you can't eat, drink lots of water and cut the supplement into small doses. It can be taken more frequently that way, but needs LOTs of water.

Hope you get over this soon.

To your health!
🧉🙂👍
Wife just tested negative this morning and went to work. Believe it or not I just did some shirtless sunbathing today......you must have ESP. I am almost never shirtless in the sun but it was absolutely beautiful today......so I walked the river (where nobody was) and went sunbathing for something like 45 minutes.

The rest of your advice is spot on. I am taking quercetin, zinc citrate vitamin C and other supplements with my ivermectin.

Feeling a lot better today went for a light bike ride. Appetite and mood still depressed though.
 

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If Jesus did not broke the human laws. Then also we should not. Or do I see this wrong?
Vaccinations through coercion, treachery, threats and misinformation is the ongoing criminal activity.

On the other hand refusing medical treatment is a sacrosanct right.

And you thought the governments were the good guys? Ridiculous.
 

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Wife just tested negative this morning and went to work. Believe it or not I just did some shirtless sunbathing today......you must have ESP. I am almost never shirtless in the sun but it was absolutely beautiful today......so I walked the river (where nobody was) and went sunbathing for something like 45 minutes.

The rest of your advice is spot on. I am taking quercetin, zinc citrate vitamin C and other supplements with my ivermectin.

Feeling a lot better today went for a light bike ride. Appetite and mood still depressed though.
My wife tested positive for Covid19 yesterday while at work, so they told her she could supervise the Covid ward where 5 students were convalescing. They don't take Covid as seriously in SD as they did in NY. She is working today as well.
 

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Wife just tested negative this morning and went to work. Believe it or not I just did some shirtless sunbathing today......you must have ESP. I am almost never shirtless in the sun but it was absolutely beautiful today......so I walked the river (where nobody was) and went sunbathing for something like 45 minutes.

The rest of your advice is spot on. I am taking quercetin, zinc citrate vitamin C and other supplements with my ivermectin.

Feeling a lot better today went for a light bike ride. Appetite and mood still depressed though.
Oh yeah!
God is good!
He gave us good things for overcoming sickness. You pick excellent ones vitamin C, Quercetin and other supplements on top of that. Excellent!

Sometimes with appetite it takes a while during the recovery phase, even if the viral load is about gone. They produce toxins that our body has to get rid of. Think of it like spoiled food that gave an upset stomach and feels uneasy to the other side. Once the toxins clear out of the digestion and blood stream, leave the body, the appetite returns.
If you have any questions on low or no cost ways that are very easy anyone can improve the mood and appetite. just PM or ask. I don't sell products. Just a favor for a neighbor.

My friends say I've got esp too, so you aren't the first. It's not me though. It's the Holy Spirit in me Who knows all things. I will guess that He lives in you too friend. He bore testimony to us how the Lord provides solutions for this challenge at the same time. Why?
I can't say for sure. Maybe because He wants to remind you how much He cares.