Saved sinners???
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where do you self-righteous hypocrites come from?
i wonder if you are even saved? nobody who has been truly saved by Grace through faith would be so deluded.
Romans 7:24
Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
4runner 7:24
Wretched man that I was before i was knocked off my horse on the road to Damscus! Who delivered me from this body of death and made me perfectly sinless?
i wonder if you are even saved? nobody who has been truly saved by Grace through faith would be so deluded.
Romans 7:24
Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?
4runner 7:24
Wretched man that I was before i was knocked off my horse on the road to Damscus! Who delivered me from this body of death and made me perfectly sinless?
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I do believe that those saved are not sinners in that they are not defined by the sins they commit. But there is no way around that fact that we all, saved or not, do sin and fall short of the glory of God.
But to go as far as to call someone who admits their sin the 'mouthpiece of Satan'? I mean, whoa. I have to agree with Zone on this one.
But to go as far as to call someone who admits their sin the 'mouthpiece of Satan'? I mean, whoa. I have to agree with Zone on this one.
We all have fallen short, that doesnt mean we have to continue to fall short.
[/quote]But to go as far as to call someone who admits their sin the 'mouthpiece of Satan'? I mean, whoa. I have to agree with Zone on this one.[/quote]There is nothing wrong with admitting, and confessing your sin, but to call other believers sinners is something only satan would do, as he is the accuser of the brethren
[/quote]But to go as far as to call someone who admits their sin the 'mouthpiece of Satan'? I mean, whoa. I have to agree with Zone on this one.[/quote]There is nothing wrong with admitting, and confessing your sin, but to call other believers sinners is something only satan would do, as he is the accuser of the brethren
hypocrite???? well we know your not as you are a self proclaimed sinner. Sadly though the bible tells us no sinner will inherit the Kingdom, so unless you repent and obey you will die in your sins.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
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But to go as far as to call someone who admits their sin the 'mouthpiece of Satan'? I mean, whoa. I have to agree with Zone on this one.[/quote]There is nothing wrong with admitting, and confessing your sin, but to call other believers sinners is something only satan would do, as he is the accuser of the brethren[/quote]
I don't know about you, but everyday I fall short. Everyday I lie or curse or have evil thoughts.
I don't know about you, but everyday I fall short. Everyday I lie or curse or have evil thoughts.
1st John 1
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1st John 2
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
You cannot use this passage to promote sin. Taking one verse out of context and trying to force it to say something it doesnt is the first sign of a deceiver.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1st John 2
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
You cannot use this passage to promote sin. Taking one verse out of context and trying to force it to say something it doesnt is the first sign of a deceiver.
No modification of any behavior can save you, only Christ can make us free indeed
When people say that we are not to make sin a habit, but yet everyone sins, and will not be completely freed from sin until the resurrection. They do not truly believe (have faith in the fact) that the Son can make us free indeed.
When people say that we are not to make sin a habit, but yet everyone sins, and will not be completely freed from sin until the resurrection. They do not truly believe (have faith in the fact) that the Son can make us free indeed.