What Kind of Husband Do You Want?

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Really? I've never used ignore so I didn't know there was such a button.

Still... He seems to not be using it. It would probably help to put the replying to tag. And it doesn't cost anything.

(Replying to Living4Him3)
It's not really a button.

It's something that shows up at the bottom right hand corner at the bottom of the page, and it reads "show ignored content".

If someone who has people on "ignore" clicks on that, then they can go back and reread the page with all of the previously ignored content before them.
 

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On a more personal note (even though I've already shared a bunch of personal things), just about a week ago, my 16-year-old daughter and I had a very interesting conversation. In our conversation, which she initiated, she told me that she still believes a lot of the stories in the Bible (I taught my children the Bible from the time that they were infants), BUT she ultimately rejects Christianity and all religions because of what she perceives to be misogyny. In other words, she rattled off a bunch of religious stories in which all of the blame for the world's woes falls squarely upon the shoulders of a woman.

When it comes to the Bible, that's what she said about Eve. HOWEVER, after I spoke to her for quite a bit, I may have convinced her otherwise. In other words, it's because of ADAM'S SIN that death came into this world.

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12)

Anyhow, this whole male/female dynamic is still affecting today's youth.

BELIEVE ME, I've had similar conversations (more like explosions on her end) with my 19-year-old daughter as well.

There's nothing new under the sun.
 
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Hey...

A few things:

First of all, thanks for your reply. I genuinely appreciate it.

Secondly, and I could be totally mistaken in what I'm about to say, but I didn't read his comments the same way that you did, but, again, you may be reading him correctly, and I may be mistaken. I read his comments more along the lines of "Yeah, everybody could see the obvious bad fruit, but only God could see and deal with the real root of the problem". IF that is what he was saying, THEN I agree with him because there have been many times in my own life where I wasn't seeing victory while attempting to eradicate certain sinful behaviors from my own life until the time came that God showed me what the real root causes of those sins were. When I dealt with the root causes, then the bad fruit disappeared as a direct result of the same.

Lastly, I definitely agree with you that Jesus tells us to "Go, and sin no more".

Thanks, again, for your clarification.
You read correctly. You have someone who wants to turn others against me because she's against me. (Three of these people seoulsearch, magenta, and ...ann.) I don't keep track, but those are three names (the last one ends in 'ann').

God doesn't just talk to me; He explains things to me (or He lets the explanation of things 'fall into my head'). He does this with everything, not just spiritual things. If you know you are sinning, God doesn't have to tell you like the enemy will. However, if you are willing to learn from it, God is willing to teach you something from it. In the instance where I made out with that girl, God's focus was not to condemn or chide me but to remind me (because I'd forgotten for being so busy and focused) that I needed intimacy.

In that moment, God showed me that everyone naturally has the two needs of fellowship and intimacy but that I'd been so focused on the first that I'd forgotten the latter. But since I needed the latter just like I needed the former, I'd have to eventually act on that need which was what I did. God explains things to me all the time. He explains other people to me too.

I was at a prophetic meeting one night. I can almost always tell when someone is about to prophesy over me because they start 'breathing hard' (so to speak). The worship team after worship began to prophesy as led over the congregation (about fifty people). One of them pointed at me and said, "You with the glasses." He was pointing at me alright. But I don't wear glasses. This went on for a while when my friends I came with said he must be talking about me. I stood up and said I didn't have glasses on. He then apologized and said he saw me with glasses on in the spirit. He then began to prophesy why: he said that God had given me 'eyes to see' 20/20. The other four worship team members prophesied over me, and all the words were related to insight or spiritual sight. One of them told me that God had given me the ability to see into people's histories so that I could listen to or watch someone and see into their past and understand why they were the way they were. I was surprised as this was true.

Now, the Bible says (and everyone knows) that a person who does wrong, practices wrong, enjoys wrongdoing hides in the dark and does not want to be exposed. I have noticed everywhere I've gone that it has always been the people who do evil in secret (who do it or harbor it in their hearts which are related but aren't the same thing) who are hostile towards me. They're so used to hiding their evil in the dark that they can sense when someone (anyone) can see past their facade and into their 'treasured sins'. The Bible does not say that God won't hear your prayers (ie. take you seriously) if you're also sinning; it says that God won't hear your prayers if you love sinning:

Psalm 66:18 says, "If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me" (KJV) or "If I cherished sin in my heart, the Lord wouldn't have listened" (WEB). Everyone sins; but some people regard (look with delight, cherish, treasure, protect) certain of their own sins and iniquities. God doesn't honor or pay any attention to the prayers or wishes of the second group. Sometimes-- not always, but sometimes-- you can pick out who cherishes secret sins in their lives by their reaction to a topic that might be stirring up a coveted or beloved iniquity (or attitude or belief system) in their personal lives. Or maybe that's just me who can tell. I wish that all christians would grow in discernment and no longer think that a person who is really nice is therefore automatically godly or that a person who mingles with christians is automatically also saved. That just isn't the way it works. And God will be drawing all the things that lie beneath, forcing them up, to the surface in these last days-- so they can be exposed and judged and so His people can be purified.
 
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On a more personal note (even though I've already shared a bunch of personal things), just about a week ago, my 16-year-old daughter and I had a very interesting conversation. In our conversation, which she initiated, she told me that she still believes a lot of the stories in the Bible (I taught my children the Bible from the time that they were infants), BUT she ultimately rejects Christianity and all religions because of what she perceives to be misogyny. In other words, she rattled off a bunch of religious stories in which all of the blame for the world's woes falls squarely upon the shoulders of a woman.

When it comes to the Bible, that's what she said about Eve. HOWEVER, after I spoke to her for quite a bit, I may have convinced her otherwise. In other words, it's because of ADAM'S SIN that death came into this world.

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" (Romans 5:12)

Anyhow, this whole male/female dynamic is still affecting today's youth.

BELIEVE ME, I've had similar conversations (more like explosions on her end) with my 19-year-old daughter as well.

There's nothing new under the sun.
It's been simmering for millennia. lucifer didn't one day decide to attack the Throne and go for it. He formulated it and planned it and then launched his attack. This feminism we see today originated right at the Fall when Adam 'failed' Eve by not stopping her and this 'Great Wall of China' came up between men and women.

I always look beneath the surface. (Fortunately or unfortunately, this keeps me from chasing women for just their looks because-- for me-- their character superimposes over their physical looks which carnally doesn't help me at all but spiritually delivers my neck from knives and weapons of murder. Lol.) I automatically am always looking at what lies beneath every time, all the time. This misandry and feminism has always been around. The issue is that most people only look at 'what lies above'-- what is visible. So, they only recognize feminism as an issue because some women are yelling and screaming. If no one was yelling and screaming, none of this would be recognized as the malignant cancer that it is.

13 is the number of witchcraft. All the numbers have significance. The age of 12 appears to be the last age of innocence (if you will). It's when Jewish boys did their bar mitzvah; it's the only time between His birth and stepping into the Jordan at 30 years old that Jesus was shown to us (the age of 12); it represents apostolic (or God's) government (therefore the 12 patriarchs of Israel and the 12 apostles-- whereas 10 represents man's government). There are seven years in the teen years (seven represents perfection) because in the turbulent teen years God hid the 'perfect season' for a human being to be saved. Ie. the seven teen years-- though they look nothing of the sort-- are the seven continuous years in which a human being is most 'fertile' to receive God's Word and God Himself. Now does it look this way on the surface? Not even a little bit. Parents go crazy because they don't understand 'the seasons'-- that it is time for them to turn their kids over to God in the teen years (I didn't say put them out the house). Age 12 is a transition year (it was when Jesus said He had to be about His Father's business but not before 12); parents get the kid 11 straight years to themselves alone; at age 12, they're to begin giving the child over to God (ie. entrusting the child to God, not kicking the child out the house). Parents don't do this, most of the time, therefore, a war ensues where the parents are actually more in the wrong than the teens but no one knows it. Witchcraft covens go looking for girls who are 13. One of my friends who is a single mom-- she has a girl and two boys. The girl is now 15. My friend says her sons and her have made a final decision to live (and die) for God but that her daughter has chosen the very opposite. Unfortunately, this isn't uncommon. Families who have daughters are in for a new flavor of attacks from the enemy. Parents who don't know this are going to be caught off-guard and overwhelmed, especially when they hit their teen years.

As for feminism, there is nothing new under the sun. There's nothing new about it at all. If you know how to understand people's character or why people say and do what they do, you'll see feminsm e v e r y w h e r e
 

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I always look beneath the surface. (Fortunately or unfortunately, this keeps me from chasing women for just their looks because-- for me-- their character superimposes over their physical looks which carnally doesn't help me at all but spiritually delivers my neck from knives and weapons of murder. Lol.) I automatically am always looking at what lies beneath every time, all the time. This misandry and feminism has always been around. The issue is that most people only look at 'what lies above'-- what is visible. So, they only recognize feminism as an issue because some women are yelling and screaming. If no one was yelling and screaming, none of this would be recognized as the malignant cancer that it is.
You're conversing with "Mr. look beneath the surface" right now. In other words, for my entire life, I've been honestly saying that I'm much more attracted and attentive to what is in a woman's heart than her outward appearance.

Anyhow, there's a lot of truth to what you've said here, but, and this is a BIG BUT, it is nowhere near being the entire truth.

For example, as cinder said earlier, there are women who truly desire strong men, but many strong men have misused their strength to harm women, and that is the MAN'S SIN, and not the woman's sin.

Also, generally speaking, A LOT OF MEN are just plain old jerks, so, again, the fault by no means falls solely upon the shoulders of women.

Which takes me back to what I've said time and time and time and time and time and time and time again...

The only way that marriage ever works is if God is truly a part of the equation, and if both the man and woman are willing and actively seeking to fulfill their own God-given roles within the marriage.

Sad to say, God not only isn't truly a part of many marriages, but most men are focused on what the women are or are not doing, and most women are focused upon what the men are or are not doing. Personally, my focus in my marriage was always upon myself or in seeking to fulfill what God required of me as both a husband and a father. BELIEVE ME, that, in and of itself, was a full-time job.

Well, time to return back to the garden of Eden, I suppose, where Eve blames the serpent, and Adam blames both God and Eve.

PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY BEFORE GOD is the correct solution to this problem...in case anybody was truly wondering.
 
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Anyhow, there's a lot of truth to what you've said here, but, and this is a BIG BUT, it is nowhere near being the entire truth.
Not even the Bible is able to give us the whole truth in so many pages. I talk about one thing at a time:

1.) If I'm talking about where men are wrong towards women, I don't want to hear someone come in and say, "But women are wrong to men too!" I know that. That's not what I'm talking about right now. Let's talk about one thing at a time.

2.) If I'm talking about where women are wrong towards men, I don't want to hear someone come in and say, "But men are wrong to women too!" I know that. That's not what I'm talking about right now. Let's talk about one thing at a time.

You know, I really dislike insincerity, deception, manipulation, and dishonesty. If I make a post about where parents are wrong with their teens, some parent is going to barge in and say, "Well, teens are [more] wrong [too]!" I want to stick to the topic at hand. A lack of integrity is impossible to miss. For example, in the justice system, men get about 67% more time in jail (overall punished worse) for the same crimes committed as a woman. You'll never hear a woman come and say, "Where's the justice for the men?!" But if men gather to talk about how family courts are set up to exploit and take alimony and child support (etc.) from a man in the event of a divorce, then women barge in and demand that men's wrongful treatment of women must be talked about as well. There's no integrity in that.

It's completely dead and not worth addressing: "Listen to me moan and complain but I won't listen to you." We're not used to impartial, unbiased, and integrity today but it's time to make them fashionable again. We can only talk about one thing at a time. Ignore people who want to jump topics or change subjects because the topic at hand bothers them or triggers the evil things they secretly cherish behind the closed doors of their conscious mind. They need sanctification, not a change of subject.
 

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Not even the Bible is able to give us the whole truth in so many pages. I talk about one thing at a time:

1.) If I'm talking about where men are wrong towards women, I don't want to hear someone come in and say, "But women are wrong to men too!" I know that. That's not what I'm talking about right now. Let's talk about one thing at a time.

2.) If I'm talking about where women are wrong towards men, I don't want to hear someone come in and say, "But men are wrong to women too!" I know that. That's not what I'm talking about right now. Let's talk about one thing at a time.

You know, I really dislike insincerity, deception, manipulation, and dishonesty. If I make a post about where parents are wrong with their teens, some parent is going to barge in and say, "Well, teens are [more] wrong [too]!" I want to stick to the topic at hand. A lack of integrity is impossible to miss. For example, in the justice system, men get about 67% more time in jail (overall punished worse) for the same crimes committed as a woman. You'll never hear a woman come and say, "Where's the justice for the men?!" But if men gather to talk about how family courts are set up to exploit and take alimony and child support (etc.) from a man in the event of a divorce, then women barge in and demand that men's wrongful treatment of women must be talked about as well. There's no integrity in that.

It's completely dead and not worth addressing: "Listen to me moan and complain but I won't listen to you." We're not used to impartial, unbiased, and integrity today but it's time to make them fashionable again. We can only talk about one thing at a time. Ignore people who want to jump topics or change subjects because the topic at hand bothers them or triggers the evil things they secretly cherish behind the closed doors of their conscious mind. They need sanctification, not a change of subject.
I get what you're saying.

I'm merely saying that there are two sides to every coin.

Also, I've seen men storm through these forums like runaway trains before while seeking to run over as many women possible in the process.

Part of my nature as a man is to protect and defend women (assuming that they're not justifiably guilty, that is), so if for no other reason, then I'm going to try to bring balance at times to see that neither side is treated or represented unfairly.

That's just me.

Of course, the irony is that many women here can't stand me.

Go figure...
 
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I get what you're saying.

I'm merely saying that there are two sides to every coin.

Also, I've seen men storm through these forums like runaway trains before while seeking to run over as many women possible in the process.

Part of my nature as a man is to protect and defend women (assuming that they're not justifiably guilty, that is), so if for no other reason, then I'm going to try to bring balance at times to see that neither side is treated or represented unfairly.

That's just me.

Of course, the irony is that many women here can't stand me.

Go figure...
I don't value people enough to hate them. You have to value a person or their opinions to hate them or spend time trying to tear them down. Jealous people do it all the time. So, there's no one I feel pressed to run down or run over. All I see are vulnerable hens in a chicken run and roosters doing what they were designed to do. We're all fools. How can I pursue a fool and be a greater fool for it.

As for a man's nature, God made it the nature of all living things to protect those who are weaker. You see this in the animal kingdom. In fact, you'll see it among plants too. (I'll share more about this below.) The Bible says, "We who are strong ought to bear with the scruples (or shortcomings or weaknesses) of the weak and not to please ourselves (not use our strength to serve only ourselves)" (Romans 15:1). Everyone innately knows the stronger are supposed to protect the weaker. However.

I am aware inside myself what is actually proper when it comes to protecting and defending. God never meant men to be 'white knights' who think they're obligated to save and defend all women. If she's not your mom, sister, wife, or daughter, you have zero obligations to her. What you do, you're supposed to do for goodness's sake, not out of obligation. I'm not opening the door for a woman when walking into a store nor jumping in to save a woman who is getting assaulted (I'll call the police if no one else is around). Those things are none of my business nor has God made them my business.

My sister once called me to call her ex-boyfriend and somehow 'threaten' or coerce or convince him into getting back with him. She complained to me that he called her "crazy" as if those are fighting words. I'm the coolest head among her brothers. If she'd told my older brother, he'd be ready to at least threaten her ex; if she'd told my younger brother, he'd be willing to fly in from another city to beat up her ex (which was why he was her favorite brother); but if she told me, I had to get all the facts and then make a proper decision. I called him because she wanted me to. He was in a grocery store checkout line when I called, and when he heard I was her brother, he immediately became defensive. I told him to relax and just tell me what caused him to break up with her. In so many words, he said it just didn't work out. Okay. So I called my sister back and told her what he told me. Do you know what her response to me was? "You didn't take my side?" No. I didn't. I told her he'd done nothing wrong and just didn't want to be with her. I don't show anyone partiality. Men have showed women partiality for women and you know what that does? It has the same effect that spoiling a child does: it makes people worse human beings. I wasn't obligated to force or coerce or assault or slander my sister's ex just because that was what she wanted. She cried some more and hung up. Maybe she thought I was a terrible brother. I could care less. I'm aware of what the real rules are and where my obligations lie; I can also distinguish between obligation and good deed.

Now, for plants and protecting the weak. All Creation is alive, because God (His power) inside everything makes it alive. This means that everything can be negatively affected (we know this because the Fall already negatively affected all of Creation) and everything can be positively affected. It also means that somehow everything has a consciousness of some kind meaning they must be able to 'feel' or 'sense' which really makes perfect sense to be honest. Dr. Masaru Emoto has done experiments to see the effect of positive and negative words on water, plants, etc.

The experiments have turned up surprising results, showing that water and plants (and all creation) have a consciousness and that a person's spirit (ie. feelings, thoughts, beliefs, attitudes, baises, prejudices, etc.) does 'travel out' on/with their words, therefore being able to affect other people and things positively or negatively. I share three short videos below. There was also a wheat plant experiment (I won't try to find it now) in which three trays of wheat were planted by a window. Positive words were spoken to Tray A, negative words to Tray B, and Tray C was neglected. At the end of the test, the wheat in Tray A (positive words) had grown the highest; wheat in Tray C (no words) grew a little but not as much, and the wheat in Tray B (negative words) grew the least. While the wheat in Tray B grew straight up, the wheat in Tray A and Tray C had leaned over towards each other over the wheat in Tray B as if to protect it from the negative words. Some people might say this isn't possible; but the Bible shows that all Creation has a consciousness and can be affected by both good and bad. Eg.:

1.) Jesus said to the religious who complained that people were praising Him as the Messiah, "I tell you the truth, if they keep quiet the stones will cry out" (Luke 19:40). There are many people who say that was a proverbial saying. Fine. On to the next:

2.) "You will go out with joy and be led forth in peace. The mountains and the hills will break forth into singing before you, and all the trees of the field will clap their hands" (Isaiah 55:12). This also can be forced under the metaphorical label, but there are more:

3.) "The earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body" (Romans 8:19-23). The Creation spoken of here is not human beings; it's other created things: animals, plant life, dirt, water, etc.

The following videos show that words, tunes/sounds, and mostly heart intentions/attitudes/thoughts/feelings (from/with words or without words; ie. wishing something, strongly desiring something, or trying to fantasize something into reality) do affect the shape or structure of water molecules, rice, and plants and so therefore do affect human beings.




Having said all that and acknowledging that "we are who are strong ought to bear with the shortcomings of the weak", it still remains true that you aren't meant to obligate yourself to the weak but to consider (or be mindful of) their weakness in your interactions with them. Afterall, God doesn't obligate Himself to human beings for being weak (because that's not the rule); but He is mindful of our weaknesses and deals with us from an awareness of our weaknesses, not from a sense of obligation:

"He knows our frame [lit. He 'understands our constitution']; He remembers that we are dust" (Psalm 103:4).

You can be mindful of how to treat people; but you shouldn't obligate yourself to anyone except those you are in fact obligated to.
 

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I am aware inside myself what is actually proper when it comes to protecting and defending. God never meant men to be 'white knights' who think they're obligated to save and defend all women. If she's not your mom, sister, wife, or daughter, you have zero obligations to her. What you do, you're supposed to do for goodness's sake, not out of obligation. I'm not opening the door for a woman when walking into a store nor jumping in to save a woman who is getting assaulted (I'll call the police if no one else is around). Those things are none of my business nor has God made them my business.
I only made it this far in your post (I'll read the rest later), and I have to leave for work now.

I just wanted to say that I always hold the door open for people, both men and women alike, and I did jump in and break up a fistfight between a young man and a young woman about 2 years ago at my local supermarket. I had to give my name and other personal information to the police when they were summoned, but I never heard back from them again.

As Christians (or just as human beings), I believe that we're obligated to do what is right.

What's the other option?

To do what is wrong?

It takes very little effort to simply be kind or nice to people.

I've gotta run...
 
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I only made it this far in your post (I'll read the rest later), and I have to leave for work now.

I just wanted to say that I always hold the door open for people, both men and women alike, and I did jump in and break up a fistfight between a young man and a young woman about 2 years ago at my local supermarket. I had to give my name and other personal information to the police when they were summoned, but I never heard back from them again.

As Christians (or just as human beings), I believe that we're obligated to do what is right.

What's the other option?

To do what is wrong?

It takes very little effort to simply be kind or nice to people.

I've gotta run...
I write what I write because I enjoy writing what I write. You don't have to read it. Do what you want. You're under no obligation to read anything. Relax. Take your time.

Hold the door open? Not a chance. I'd rather hold a door open for a man than for a woman. A man doesn't feel like people should hold doors open for him, so he's unlikely to become [more] arrogant if someone does. Babying women doesn't promote any maturity. I'm here to promote maturity. I don't like or tolerate babies in adult bodies. Men complain about women's immaturity and self-centeredness, but it's because men are always protecting and catering to women that women aren't maturing emotionally and tend to be toxically self-centered. I respect and honor everyone, but there's no soul or spirt or body getting special treatment from me. Abandon all hope of getting anything from me if that's what you're looking for. There's not a chance in Hell, Heaven, this planet, the sea, any other planet, no galaxy, no space or time, no version of me in the multiverse, not in eternity. It will never happen. I treat people according to their actual value, not according to some feigned value. Gth with that, and with speed.

Dude, if you think men are supposed to treat women special, look around you. All you'll have is women who 'like' what you say that favors them, but they won't like or respect you. Women aren't complicated; God simply raised a Wall between men and women so that neither side can understand the other.

Women think men want a girl who makes money, is bossy and loud, princessy, self-centered, what women are today. What a joke. Men just tolerate that. Men think women want a catering fool: "As long as I make her happy, she'll like me." God help us all. Why do men and women seem to simultaneously want two contradicting things (eg. men want to sleep around but want to marry a woman who hasn't slept around; women want a guy who is nice (ie. who they can control) but want a guy who is 'toxic' (ie. who they can't control but who will control them))... Ask God. If you try to figure it out yourself, you have a Wall in front of you that you won't be able to scale. Kill me first. I don't cater to anyone, especially to unstable, unwell, toxically self-centered, imbalanced souls. But you can all you want. You'll be chasing women's approval for the rest of your life, and you'll never get it.
 

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Oh, please.

Babying women?

By holding a door open for them?

Sorry, but that's just ridiculous in most cases.

God's royal law is love, and love is kind.

There's nothing wrong with random acts of kindness.
 
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Oh, please.

Babying women?

By holding a door open for them?

Sorry, but that's just ridiculous in most cases.

God's royal law is love, and love is kind.

There's nothing wrong with random acts of kindness.
No deal. Not a chance. Not a chance.
 

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Oh, please.

Babying women?

By holding a door open for them?

Sorry, but that's just ridiculous in most cases.

God's royal law is love, and love is kind.

There's nothing wrong with random acts of kindness.
Curious if you were looking, what kind of woman are you after? Like your top 3 things.
 

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Curious if you were looking, what kind of woman are you after? Like your top 3 things.
Hmmmm...?

It's kind of hard to put into words.

At times, and it's rare, I just sense an inner beauty in a woman.

This might sound weird, but part of it relates to vulnerabilities or fears that I might perceive in her...vulnerabilities and fears that I care about and would like to help her to overcome.

Also, just sincerity/honesty and kindness.

I'm really not into "flash".

Just somebody being herself while allowing me to know her and love her for who she really is.

You kind of put me on the spot here...but I hope that what I said makes some sort of sense.

Again, it's hard to put into words.

It's just something that I perceive in my spirit.
 

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Hmmmm...?

It's kind of hard to put into words.

At times, and it's rare, I just sense an inner beauty in a woman.

This might sound weird, but part of it relates to vulnerabilities or fears that I might perceive in her...vulnerabilities and fears that I care about and would like to help her to overcome.

Also, just sincerity/honesty and kindness.

I'm really not into "flash".

Just somebody being herself while allowing me to know her and love her for who she really is.

You kind of put me on the spot here...but I hope that what I said makes some sort of sense.

Again, it's hard to put into words.

It's just something that I perceive in my spirit.
Do you mean her inner beauty = vulnerabilities or fears you perceive OR the sincerity/honesty and kindness?
 

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Do you mean her inner beauty = vulnerabilities or fears you perceive OR the sincerity/honesty and kindness?
Both.

For me, and I might not be "normal" in this sense ("normal" is overrated, anyway), if a woman trusts me enough to allow me to see her vulnerabilities and/or to know her fears, then that means the world to me. I would never want to hurt anybody, and if a woman would entrust that part of her heart to me, then that would be priceless in my sight.

Again, it's hard to put into words.

Basically, and totally contrary to the opinions of quite a few members here, I truly am a very loving and caring man. I don't mind if a woman isn't "strong" by the world's standards. If she's willing to share her heart with me, even as I'd be willing to share my heart with her, then I would be the happiest man alive.

By my standards, I've only ever really been in three relationships. Oh, I've dated here and there sporadically, but only three real relationships as far as I'm concerned. One of those relationships was before I got saved, and, although I'm not proud to admit it, it was mostly physical/sexual in nature...especially for her. Well, here's the important part...

Aside from my salvation experience and my three precious children, my favorite and most cherished memory in my entire life is when that young woman and I were walking in a park together one Autumn night and just holding hands. In other words, my fondest memory of her was not sexual in nature, but more a matter of the heart. I was with a young woman that I loved, and everything in the world just seemed right.

I'm sorry if this sounds confusing, but, again, it's just hard to put into words. The bottom line is that a woman's heart is the most important thing to me. With that young woman, she didn't know how to deal with me. I mean, she was apparently used to being with guys who only cared about her body, but I truly cared about her spirit and her soul. I could tell that it made her uneasy, but not in a bad way. It was just something that she wasn't used to. Anyhow, that was many years ago, but I'm still that same guy on the inside.

Again, I hope that some of this makes sense.
 

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I'm sorry if this sounds confusing, but, again, it's just hard to put into words. The bottom line is that a woman's heart is the most important thing to me.

Again, I hope that some of this makes sense.
I feel the same way. Your entire post makes perfect sense to me, especially the vulnerability / trust parts.
 

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I feel the same way. Your entire post makes perfect sense to me, especially the vulnerability / trust parts.
Well, I feel a little better knowing that somebody understands what I'm trying to say.

I just hope that my comments don't appear on the front page of "People" magazine next month...lol.