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Lanolin

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Be honest do you like violence
eg

watching fights
or blood sports
shooting guns
anything involving being hurt, blown up or killing?

I just wonder what the appeal is. I mean ok maybe it shows you are tough and big and strong but who is looking after the injured and wounded, or is it a badge of honour to have a black eye and your teeth knocked out?
 

CharliRenee

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Full transparency.. I watch stuff like snapped, dateline or documentaries like, I killed my dad. I always know when my Mama is watching that kind of stuff too much, because she starts texting me...are your doors locked, lol. I don't know if this applies. I like super hero movies, even the transformers, lol. They have violence. I don't think it means I like violence, but maybe action, hmmmm. I wonder.
 

TheNarrowPath

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Be honest do you like violence
eg

watching fights
or blood sports
shooting guns
anything involving being hurt, blown up or killing?

I just wonder what the appeal is. I mean ok maybe it shows you are tough and big and strong but who is looking after the injured and wounded, or is it a badge of honour to have a black eye and your teeth knocked out?
Yep I like fight scenes esp gun or martial arts fight scenes. I got a thing for true crime, I am into haunted mansions/asylums. I like the supernatural. Horror is my fave genre.
The appeal is that I dont do this in real life so its just fantasy. Well Ive had a black eye and my teeth knocked out in the past and all it did was make people feel bad for me and get me time off work.
 

Lynx

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This reminds me of when Brian Sack (his real name, I swear!) noticed his wife was watching a lot of Forensic Files, and analyzed how she might use this knowledge of murder methods against him if he did something to make her mad.

https://www.banterist.com/what_my_wife_ha/

As for myself... Do video games count? I'm playing a third person, open world, hack and slash/blast with magic game right now.
 

CharliRenee

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Yep I like fight scenes esp gun or martial arts fight scenes. I got a thing for true crime, I am into haunted mansions/asylums. I like the supernatural. Horror is my fave genre.
The appeal is that I dont do this in real life so its just fantasy. Well Ive had a black eye and my teeth knocked out in the past and all it did was make people feel bad for me and get me time off work.
I wonder though, do you think God has a problem with us watching certain stuff, like I don't know...things like dexter or horror? Do you think He opposses us watching violence? I am not coming for you, just wanting to pick your brain. I like true crime stuff too, and action, and thriller, big time!! Not horror so much, I am a big scardy cat with too much scary and gore, but suspense thrillers...yesssss!!! I suppose getting time off is good when u get pulverized, lol.


What are your thoughts on what His views are on what we watch?
 

CharliRenee

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This reminds me of when Brian Sack (his real name, I swear!) noticed his wife was watching a lot of Forensic Files, and analyzed how she might use this knowledge of murder methods against him if he did something to make her mad.

https://www.banterist.com/what_my_wife_ha/

As for myself... Do video games count? I'm playing a third person, open world, hack and slash/blast with magic game right now.
Hilarious....the whole thing, and this....That said, I would be surprised if she killed me, because just this morning she said I was very nice.
Overall, the best course of action would be to face east when in the kitchen and clean the stove when she tells me to. <<<<wise husband, lolol!!
 

TheNarrowPath

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I wonder though, do you think God has a problem with us watching certain stuff, like I don't know...things like dexter or horror? Do you think He opposses us watching violence? I am not coming for you, just wanting to pick your brain. I like true crime stuff too, and action, and thriller, big time!! Not horror so much, I am a big scardy cat with too much scary and gore, but suspense thrillers...yesssss!!! I suppose getting time off is good when u get pulverized, lol.


What are your thoughts on what His views are on what we watch?
No offence taken. Ive thought about it a few times because the themes are very dark. But Ive never asked Him. Plenty of violence in the Bible. I think I could be doing better things with my time lol but I have been into the macabre since I sneaked and peeked at a horror movie aged about 8. I did worry if I was going to be desensitized to the worse the world has to offer, but I recall when Saddam Hussein was killed, seeing that on video, I was sick to my stomach. So Im not numb inside yet. For me its just something I like to do to detach.
 

TheNarrowPath

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This reminds me of when Brian Sack (his real name, I swear!) noticed his wife was watching a lot of Forensic Files, and analyzed how she might use this knowledge of murder methods against him if he did something to make her mad.

https://www.banterist.com/what_my_wife_ha/

As for myself... Do video games count? I'm playing a third person, open world, hack and slash/blast with magic game right now.
Video games count. But most of us are sane and are not going to commit mass murders after doing it online. We know the difference between fantasy and reality.
 

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Do I like violence?

As an 80s kid growing up with Rambo and Chuck Norris and Arnold, violence was something we laughed at and enjoyed with friends on TV. So you could say that I liked it.
But as a kid you have no real and deep understanding of what violence is or what it means , so it remained something cool which we watched on TV, separate from reality.
So the cool factor was the appeal.

As I grew older I didn’t like TV violence anymore. So the coolness factor was gone. Violence seemed stupid most of the time in movies and especially since I knew more about violence in the real world.

Video games were attractive and cool and some still are and some of them I still enjoy to his day.
Games like Metal Gear Solid 5 for example, which I used to play a lot and now I’m playing again with my son.

So the human condition is an evolving process.
But I’ve never ever liked violent sports including boxing [Mike Tyson was big in my day and I’ve never watched him] and I’ve never liked guns. In fact I’ve always hated guns. I guess even as a 5-7 year old kid, I could understand the line between fantasy and reality.
 

Lanolin

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I wonder just cos its on tv do young ppl think its fantasy or funny when news shows all the time people,being killed, harmed and injured. Its real life not an entertainment show.

I wonder when they will understand that if they kill someone, they stay dead and someone will have to clean up the mess (blood and guts) and bury the bodies. Or if they are injured how much medical treatment that person will need. maybe for the rest of their life.

On video games and movies/tv shows consequences of violence are not really shown. somehow people just dont get hurt, or they dont REALLY cry or anything. Or if they do cry, its pretty onion crying not real UGLY crying. The blood splatters in a controlled way its not the real life stuff, just strawberry jam
 

TheNarrowPath

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I wonder just cos its on tv do young ppl think its fantasy or funny when news shows all the time people,being killed, harmed and injured. Its real life not an entertainment show.

I wonder when they will understand that if they kill someone, they stay dead and someone will have to clean up the mess (blood and guts) and bury the bodies. Or if they are injured how much medical treatment that person will need. maybe for the rest of their life.

On video games and movies/tv shows consequences of violence are not really shown. somehow people just dont get hurt, or they dont REALLY cry or anything. Or if they do cry, its pretty onion crying not real UGLY crying. The blood splatters in a controlled way its not the real life stuff, just strawberry jam
I remember when Fortnite came out all the kids were into it, some would come to school so tired because they said they stayed up playing it. Also Roblox came out around the same time which I play a lot. Its fun. But a lot of violence in games these days and more graphic detail. And its not balanced with going outside and getting fresh air. I have not seen a child in a tree in years, apart from my own kid who liked to climb them but didnt know how to climb back down lol
 

Lanolin

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or they could just play bullrush outside and get scraped knees and broken bones instead of fatigue and exhaustion and hallucintations from sleep deprivation.

I havent looked into why fortnite is the number one game
I can see the appeal of Roblox though...making or creating your own games but I dont understand the violent nature of Fortnite

violence is boring to me doesnt get me excited at all. A fight or battle scene in a movie puts me to sleep. Im like so they hate each other...so what?! My solution would be to seprate them so they dont end up killing each other..which is what ppl do when they divorce pretty much
 

Lanolin

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I had a suggestion in my library wish box

pillow fight

?! Why would pillows fight each other? I thought pillows were for dreaming on. They got nothing to be angry about...or do they? :unsure:
 

Lanolin

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at least nobody suggest a food fight like they do in american movies.

Anyway I dont have pillows in the library I have cushions and they dont really want to fight. I think they can be a bit lazy but they prefer to be cuddled and read to.

I will have to think of something to counteract these violent tendencies. But what?
 

Lanolin

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so far Ive got puppets but the Punch and Judy routine gets old pretty fast.

Kids are very good at breaking stuff that isnt bolted down. The room next to the library is kind of like a jail cell with bars on the windows lol.

I have done an escape room but I thought it would be too complicated to do it in school, need a lot of padlocks etc. We did do a lockdown drill once and I had to hide everyone behind the shelves and lock the doors, but I forgot to lock one door (its now labelled which way to lock it) so the serial killers/shooters could have just walked in and shot us all...
 

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Be honest do you like violence
eg

watching fights
or blood sports
shooting guns
anything involving being hurt, blown up or killing?

I just wonder what the appeal is. I mean ok maybe it shows you are tough and big and strong but who is looking after the injured and wounded, or is it a badge of honour to have a black eye and your teeth knocked out?
I enjoy action films: cars wreck, things blow up and the bad guys loose. There's always the twist or two where your not sure the hero(s) will survive but they always do.

Keeps it exciting and your toes curled to the end.

In real life? I avoid excitement... My life is quite peaceful and I don't like fighting.

We do have guns...
 

Mel85

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Be honest do you like violence
eg

watching fights
or blood sports
shooting guns
anything involving being hurt, blown up or killing?

I just wonder what the appeal is. I mean ok maybe it shows you are tough and big and strong but who is looking after the injured and wounded, or is it a badge of honour to have a black eye and your teeth knocked out?
I’d watch it if I can tolerate the blood & guts - if I can’t, then I won’t.

Movies like Saving Private Ryan and Full Metal Jacket were too much for me however, movies that obviously show how fake the CGI is doesn’t bother me.

Horrors? I try and stay away from.
 

Lanolin

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Have you ever walked out of a movie if its too violent.

If threres a fighting scene or too many people killing each other, I just get up and walk out. I remember I could not tolerate the Hunger Games. I thought it was pointless.

I spent most of the movie heading to the lobby waiting for it to be over. My friend at the time had her eyes glued to it, and she had dragged me to see it. I learned to check beforehand if anyone was asking me to see a movie I didnt really want to see and just say I think I will pass. So the next time she asked to see some assassins film I just said no thanks. Find another friend.

Another friend said she felt uncomfortable watching James Bond movies with her husband and hated the experience. But she had agreed to see what er one he chose. and then beat herself up for going to see it with him. he was like we dont have to watch this if you dont want to but she stayed and was grossed out I mean literally it made her sick to witness all the violence.
 

Lynx

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Have you ever walked out of a movie if its too violent.

If threres a fighting scene or too many people killing each other, I just get up and walk out. I remember I could not tolerate the Hunger Games. I thought it was pointless.

I spent most of the movie heading to the lobby waiting for it to be over. My friend at the time had her eyes glued to it, and she had dragged me to see it. I learned to check beforehand if anyone was asking me to see a movie I didnt really want to see and just say I think I will pass. So the next time she asked to see some assassins film I just said no thanks. Find another friend.

Another friend said she felt uncomfortable watching James Bond movies with her husband and hated the experience. But she had agreed to see what er one he chose. and then beat herself up for going to see it with him. he was like we dont have to watch this if you dont want to but she stayed and was grossed out I mean literally it made her sick to witness all the violence.
Sounds like you need...

https://www.doesthedogdie.com/

If you don't like to watch something happen, find out if something in a movie happens before you have to watch it happen.
 

Lanolin

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I remember my brothers would pause the part in Gone with the Wind where Scarlett shot the yankee. Im not sure why they were fascinated though in the movie it was pretty much point blank range.


The movie mercifully did NOT show Scarlett getting raped but the before and aftermath of it, though the worst was when Scarlett fell down the stairs ...Rhett didnt actually push her but he was just callous enough to want to.

Scarlett also slapped Prissy though this was mostly sound effects. Otherwise the impact of the movie wasnt in any battle scenes but just the all the wounded soldiers ...there were so many that southerners quipped if theyd had that many they would have won the war.

Scarlett whipping the horse till he died thougn was not fun to watch. There was also the scene where Scarlett wtinesses and amputation at the hospital. For a movie all about war, maybe it was tame...and I supoose not politcally correct now to even watch it. But I think because it was not the kind of gratuitous violence and telling a story based on a version of history that was understandable then I could handle it.


whereas Hunger Games was like what is this even about and who even cares?